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would you pull the trigger?

I'm not one for trade ideas but I was looking at two teams I watch a lot and I start wondering whats the next move? Okc doesn't have the money for top free agents and the sixers are in total rebuild but have few assets compared to other rebuilding teams like Utah and Orlando.
This trade I think will make both teams better at what they want to accomplish also the key to this deal is 2 first round picks okc owns. OKC's 2014 first round and a 2014 mavs pick which is protected but becomes unprotected in 2018 which is gold ( dirk wont be around then the mavs may be a high lottery team).
heres the trade http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=o97u7ud

OKC-
thad young
spender hawes

sixers-
perkins
gomes
perry jones
steven adams
okc first round pick
mavs first round pick

I think okc wouldn't move lamb for this that's out the question

sixers positives

Hawes is in the last year of his deal and sixers are looking to tank for Wiggins. Thad has no future with the sixers. steven adams make the center spot solid for the future with noel and along with all the coaches they have hired that specialize in a player development I think this it is a good move. perry jones will finally get to play. we have seen what getting mins a do for a career look at larry sanders and tobias harris. plus a first round pick from okc and valuable pick from the mavs is a plus for any team rebuilding .

okc positives
OKC moves perkins an inefficient for a solid floor spacing center in hawes 18 + per.Young also spreads the floor.Young,Lamb and Jackson are way cheaper then harden and will replace the bench production which they lost last season due to his departure. I know I know perkins suck who wants him but its a business perkins contract expires before thads. It's not to many teams in the league that would want thad young allow him to play the pf AND GIVE THE SIXERS BACK A GOOD DEAL.

Think about the jru deal in a league rich in pgs how good is the trade market.Not to many teams NEED THAD a 6'8 scoring pf or have the assets to give up. so unless a multi team deal no one team can give the sixers a better deal.


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Yeah I know guys this is what

Yeah I know guys this is what we have come to but we traded jru for a clearer and brighter future and I have come to understand that being a season ticket sixer holder and I like the deal now.the last couple years teams have done this and came back strong
the Celtics just did it lol!! the gasol trade , the howard trade ,the rudy gay trade all made the teams better and I feel as tho the harden trade hasn't seen its full potential and I think this is the deal that does it and works for both teams. Gms are pulling shocking deals so im not sorry to say but I would pull this deal even if a had a million negs and that's from a Philly native/sixer fan.

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double post

double post

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i see what you are doing,

i see what you are doing, it's not all that bad actually. i'm not sure how high okc is on pj3 but they might lose some toughness giving up perkins. but then, i thought they should have amnestied him anyways. just a heads up, you are not allowed to have trade ideas on this site apparently though without getting 6574654875987609870987 negs. (and often no explanation) so if you care about that stuff it's a heads up.

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It isn't a bad trade

It isn't a bad trade necessarily, but I don't think OKC would do this. I can see why OKC would do it, as the Hawes-Young combination would replace the Perkins-Collison combo fairly effectively and help open up the offense.

The problem is that the move would hurt OKC's defense, especially in the playoffs when they would have to face teams with a post threat. Having Ibaka defend centers, as he would have to when Young was in the game, would limit his rim protection, and the Thunder struggled to defend effectively with the Ibaka-Jeff Green combo down low. Young is a better defender than Green, but he still is less needed for the Thunder's defense than Perkins, as bad as Perkins was in the postseason.

This move also takes away a lot of OKC's young assets, which could be used a future trade that helps the Thunder more. This move also only really makes sense for Philly if they, at some point in the future, move some of their mismatched young players and draft picks for a veteran presence, as, while they are tanking this season, they will eventually need a veteran base around their young talent and not just a million young players who can't shoot.

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Perkins was so ineffective

Perkins was so ineffective this playoffs it isn't funny. He isn't the perkins that gave Howard trouble and backed KG up against opposing front court he has lost a edge. I think ibaka can guard centers Miami won a championship with joel and bosh guarding centers . hasheem and perkins aren't cutting it . The biggest thing about this trade is the fact okc gets to keep lamb and Jackson and add two starter cal players to their roster. Remember how we thought the Toronto draft pick from hou was going to be a higher pick I don't think okc has the time to risk it again to see where these draft picks will land or what they will land them but the sixers have all the time in the world on and off the court. Okc doesn't have many assets their willing to move especially after the harden nightmare lol ( that's going to haunt them forever ) besides future picks and young unproven players I don't see what a team besides a rebuilding one would want from them no playoff team would take on perkins contract.
We know kd,ibaka,and westbrook are off limits they should be happy they got anything back for Perkins he average 2 points 4 rebounds 2 turnovers in the last playoffs.
thanks for all the feedback I hope both teams can work something out.

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This isn't horrible and it

This isn't horrible and it wouldn't be outlandish if this trade went through in reality. But ultimately, this trade would hurt the Thunder and could possibly not make them a contender any longer.

Thad Young is too similar to Ibaka in terms of offensive skillset. So having Young as a backup wouldn't necessary be a huge asset. Secondly, Hawes is not the center at the 5. He is often advertised as a player with post moves- but this is not the case. His softness makes him mainly a mid range shooter.

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Aaron Hernandez would

Aaron Hernandez would

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hehe, not to soon at all I

hehe, not to soon at all I love it.

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My 6ers wouldn't do that

My 6ers wouldn't do that trade.

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possibly

As a Sixers fan, I would like to see us get some higher picks (Dallas is top 20 protected for a few years and OKC is always picking 27-30), but I would love to add Steven Adams and PJ3. Those are two really, really high upside players who could get some time in our rotation, plus help us lose games this year. I'd be trying to find a 3rd team to take Perkins off our hands. I'd have to know what other trades were out there for Thad and Hawes before I said yes or no to this one, but it's definitely a good trade idea.

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