Worst Second Unit in the NBA

According to ESPN.com's NBA Teams Depth Chart.. the New York Knicks 2nd String consists of ..

C- Josh Harrelson
PF- Jared Jeffries
SF- Bill Walker
SG- Toney Douglas
PG- Mike Bibby

Taking all things into consideration, as was stated..
AGE: Bibby is near death, while the 2-4 guys are young/middle of the road below average talent. Jeffries has been underachieving for years, and would be on an affiliated D-League team in any other NBA Roster, while Harrelson is a young gun probably getting conflicting advice on how to play defense from Amare and Chandler everyday in practice.
TALENT: Scoring ability isn't lost on Walker, but seems to be on everybody else. I suppose having ONE scoring option on your 2nd string could be worse, but when that option is Billy Walker, eek.
ATHLETICISM: Goes hand in hand with AGE a little bit, but Bibby should be in a wheelchair, while Douglas, Walker, and Harrelson aren't bad athletes. Jeffries is an enigma, (see above).
OVERALL PLAY: Melo and Amare are black holes on offense, neither plays decent defense, and during their brief time off the past 2 weeks, a little known PG named Jeremy Lin has been leading the team to victories. But don't allow any thoughts that the '2nd string' has had much to do with this. Shumpert should probably be on this depth chart, over Bibby, which would bring the POTENTIAL factor up, a bit.. but we'll see what happens when Baron Davis returns.

The Bobcats starting 5 is worse then most of the leagues 2nd units so...

You have to take out what certain sites "say" or "list" as their second unit.

The Knicks second unit is realistically made up of those guys you named except insert Shumpert for Bibby. Still I would rather have those five than that of the Lakers.

The Bobcats would consist of

BJ Mullens

DJ White

Derrick Brown

Corey Maggette

Kemba Walker

Hands down I would rather have that five.

Statistically the Lakers are the worst team in the league in terms of bench scoring, but I don't think that is all you can go by. The Bulls have one of the deepest teams in the NBA, but they are only middle of the pack in terms of bench scoring (16.8 points per 48 minutes). Blake and Barnes are solid NBA bench players and Troy Murphy isn't great by any means, but he isn't the worst. Do you even recognize these Hornets outside of a couple?

PG - Greivis Vasquez

SG - Trey Johnson

SF - Al-Farouq Aminu

PF - Kaman/Carl Landy (only somewhat proven players in the NBA on this list)

C - Gustavo Ayon

I am just not sure I would rather have the Hornets bench than the Lakers, although both are pretty terrible.

The Hornets are up there as well but I have their second unit as being:

Vasquez

Xavier Henry

Aminu

Landry

Kaman

Again, hands down better than the Lakers'. Even if you switch Jason Smith with Carl Landry I still take the Hornets.

Amare a black hole on offense, guess ppl didn't watch last season.

Harrelson is a good shooter and not a bad defender he settles for the 3 a lil too much at times. He can block shots and rebounds and was doing well before the injury.

Jared Jeffries is a good defender, draws a lot of charges and can hit the occasional outside shot. He's a scrappy guy who isn't polished on offense but is good around the basket. Also a good offensive rebounder.

Bill Walker is an enigma he takes way too many 3's and jumpers esp. for someone who can get to the baskekt. He's a streaky player who can score in spurts.

Toney Douglas is a good on the ball defender. He struggles against the better PG's like Rose and Rondo but who doesn't. He was a good shooter before this year but having to play PG on offense has hurt him and he's been in a shooting slump for a while now.

Steve Novak can shoot he seems to have unlimited range and he's not a stiff at 6'10". Creating off the dribble is not his strength but he can be be instant offense when his stroke is on.

Mike Bibby obviously isn't the player he was in Sacrament and even Atlanta. Right now its a stretch to call him a backup PG even but thats his role since Toney Douglas is in the dog house. He's struggling to shoot and is looking like an old player out there.

Iman Shumpert is a big SG who plays good defense, can drive to the rim and is 5th in the league in steals. He looked very good in the seson opener but got hurt and came back as the starting Pg and struggled. Since being put back on the bench he's shot the ball better and has fit in with the offense well. He's an athletic player who can play defense and is a good passer just not a pure PG. He did have 6 asts against the Jazz and in the Minnesota game he was great with his shot selection. The kid has a high ceiling especially if he gets his jump shot to be consistent. Some say he's similar to Jamal Crawford but he plays better defense.

I think they didn't update the bench

No way is that the 2nd worst bench in the league.

^New York essentially won their last 5 games with their entire second unit. With the exception of Chandler, and Fields, they won 5 straight with their second unit, no way they are the 2nd worst bench in the league.

CHA isn't quite as bad as you think when everyone is healthy. Henderson and Augustine have been injured so bench players have been starting. Mullins emergence as a guy that can knock down jumpers and the solid play of DJ White and Derrick Brown is a good solid bench. Add Kemba walker in the mix there and they have gone from ok to above average.

I think the Lakers second units is hands down the worst in the league, at least for a 5vs5 tourney its the one i wouldent want at all. They have bonafide scrubs written all over em.

Cant even name 1 player from the Pistons bench at is not one of the injured players.

I did watch last season, and every season before that.. and Amare has been a black hole on offense as long as anybody can remember. The only difference from his days in Phoenix was that he was playing with arguably the best PG in the league. But, talking about Amare is getting away from the topic of this conversation.

The topic was "best 2nd unit" ..which would be 5 guys, not 7, as you pointed out. If you want to consider Douglas "in the doghouse" and actually the 3rd stringer, that's fine as well. And according to MPG on the season, Novak plays the least out of the remaining 6 that you named.. so, you're back to Harrelson, Jeffries, Walker, Bibby and Shumpert.

I'm not going to detract from anything that I stated earlier about any of them, as everything I said is true. You just went the "homer" route, and tried to glorify one or two decent thing each of those players does (besides Bibby, I think we can all agree he is just a shell, of a shell, of what he once was).

There are a lot of positives about Shumpert, but considering AGE, he's still a rookie, and no Kyrie or Rubio. He'll work on those things (shot selection, etc) but for what he is NOW and his role on THIS 2nd string, he is what he is.

All of those things combined make this one of the worst 2nd unit's in the league.

The argument that they just won 5 games in a row is namely due to The Savior Jeremy Lin (who I'm not completely sold on over the course of a season, but that is a different conversation all together). (Lin was the leading scorer in all but one of the games, where he trailed Tyson Chandler by 2). And the inspired play of forementioned Tyson Chandler.