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The Worst desparation trade ever!! NETS!

Why would the Nets give up last year pic, this year and another draft pic for a guy who doesnt want to be here? Also ,Harris doesnt suck. We all all know how important cap space is right? IF you look at contracts Deron makes almost Double than Harris! Obviously i am not on drugs, D Will is a top flight pg and defintely better than Harris but not when you consider how much more $ he makes, id rather have Harris and an additional 8 million to aquire a better wing player. There are so many good PG out there it doesnt make sense to go after a guy like DWill, I would have rather seen them go after a guy like Andre Iguadola.


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.....You serious?

.....You serious?

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Nothing was desperate bout

Nothing was desperate bout the move we made for DWill. It was the best move we could have made without giving up picks. Harris on the decline lately & Favors hasn't been an impact.

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Pics

They gave up three pics from the first round

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Pics

They gave up three pics from the first round

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Once again....You serious?

Once again....You serious?

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Seriously..? Deron Williams

Seriously..?

Deron Williams is better and probably will be better than any player the Nets picked this year..

& Favors isn't exactly a can't miss player or untradeable since he's been dangled around since Day 1.

Why can't they still go after Iguodola?
I think he'll end up there anyways.

Deron Williams and Brook Lopez is a lethal duo (If he gets better at rebounding).

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Very good trade because it

Very good trade because it makes the Nets better right now. And you have to look past just the trade now, think about what streets open up now

With the inside outside of Dwill and Brook you now become more attractive to other good players and stars

Harris was good but he was in no way DWill in any aspect of the game

And they have two years to convince him to stay. Two years to add more players and in two years they move to Brooklyn

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The question is, will he be

The question is, will he be willing to stay past next season? That's were the desperation comes in. If he's not willing to stay in NJ/Brooklyn then this trade was made in vain. For the time being, I think this is a complete steal for the Nets. Williams is the real deal and they still have some assets to bring in more immediate talent (mainly the two other first round picks they were offering denver). I think this is a great consolation prize for not getting Melo.

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FA

Big FA 's arent coming here for DWILL. Case closed , they need to build with draft pics, make some good trades and then add FA as role players

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If he doesn't wanna stay the

If he doesn't wanna stay the trade is still a good trade because Dwill can get you much more back then Harris (who didn't wanna stay) and favors could.

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NETs

Teams like the Nets only have a chance to compete by building from the draft. This is evident by This summer no FA wanted to come here and Melo didnt want to come here. IF it wasnt important to Melo where he went the Nuggets would have went to the Nets.

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Dwill was surprised and he

Dwill was surprised and he probably isn't too happy either but I'm sure in a couple of days he'll be fine. Prokorov (sorry about the spelling) will probably talk to him and tell him why they did it and also convince him that the Nets can and will build around him. Nets are certainly more active about trades than the Jazz and maybe that's a good thing for Dwill. I'm sure the Nets will still be active come draft day as well as in the offseason. They will try to get a lottery pick somehow if not then they will be active in the offseason. They still have alot of money to use up.

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I say trade 2 out of 4 1st

I say trade 2 out of 4 1st Round picks for 2012 #1 overall Austin Rivers

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Wow I am shocked I did not

Wow I am shocked I did not know anything about this trade I was thinking Harris was going to end up in ATL after last nights miserable outing but never did I think D-Will was getting traded or it would be for Harris.

I can't believe the Jazz went this route there must have been more going on in that organization then we thought. This is a fair trade tho a rather weird one. Deron Williams depsite not being the greatest team defender is one of the top 5 PG's in this league. Paul, Rose, Westbrook, Rondo are who I would take ahead of him tho I would understand if anybody wants to say Deron is better because he has that type of talent.

Devin Harris is not a great fit in Utah and is not the type of league guard to push his team into the playoffs by himself with the ball in his hands most of the game. Williams is. But the Jazz got Favors and some picks to compensate for losing that type of talent. This honestly makes the Hayward pick look much worse also, sorry Gordon fans, but let's be honest wouldn't you much rather have Paul George and Favors now instead of Hayward.

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You know big free agents

You know big free agents aren't coming to play with DWill because........I'm not saying they will but since you don't know any big Free agents personally then you're statement is just you're opnion and not a fact just liek someone saying big free agents will come. The fact is it is possible especially with them moving to Brooklyn so wel will just have to wait and see.

Fans shouldnt be shocked about the trade ( as far as not hearing about it) because there are deals that get done and don't get done behind closed doors that we don't ever hear about if the two teams really wanna keep it a secret. If they don't then they will let it be leaked that a trade is gonna happen

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Nets

They actually are not in a bad position financially. Gadzuric and Wright, who they received yesterday in the Murphy trade, are both FAs at the end of the season. Outlaw is the only player on their roster who makes more than 4 mil next season. Their cap situation isn't their issue. Their issue is, do they have anything that would drive top players to play for them. And do they have tradable assets. Really, the answer to both of those questions is NO. And that is their big problem. I don't think this was a desperate move, but it is a shortsighted move. Prokhorov will throw big money at many of these guys, but we've pretty much seen that no-one wants to play in NJ, so it's like throwing food at a white wall, you have to eventually stop making messes and clean them up. Prokhorov is making a mistake in overvaluing himself, he's too heavy handed for his own good. Their roster right now isn't going to be a threat to do any impacting damage, but Williams can make them a low seeded playoff team next season. However, if he leaves after next season, and I think he is, that means they gave up their PF and the face of their franchise, and got nothing in return. Which means it's very important for them to get some impact players going into next season, and make a run, because if they don't, things will get ugly.

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I think it all depends on how

I think it all depends on how good Favors becomes. If he does become an all star Nj will be kicking themselves for letting him go to soon.

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I think it all depends on how

I think it all depends on how good Favors becomes. If he does become an all star Nj will be kicking themselves for letting him go to soon.

Not really if Deron Williams keeps up his all star pace and Brook Lopez is still Brook Lopez

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What is Brook Lopez?

He's not overly efficient offensively, and he's been labeled a mediocre defender and rebounder and called out on it by Avery Johnson. I think the offense problem will be helped with Williams, but the defense/rebounding is a major question, he's regressed in both areas. Williams alone cannot make the Nets anything more than average. They need to address the 3 and 4 positions before going forward in their progression.

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So you really think Williams

So you really think Williams and Lopez are gonna get it done by themselves? They will win a few more games this year then they would have tops.

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Great

Great for my nets if he stays ...this would be great for the team if him and lopez can gel together and get any kind of
Chemistry sorta like how boozer and willams had ....that willams -lopez combo can be great add some nice drat pickss and 1 more scorer

If im the gm of the nets im looking for these kinda players
Stephen Jackson
Iggy
Jason richardson....he has been solid since the rebirth in phoenix and now in orlando

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He does have a good point. As

He does have a good point.

As good as D-Will is, the Nets gave up wayyyyyyy too much.

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Harris is injury prone and

Harris is injury prone and Favors is not a sure fire future all star. They got a top 10 player in D-Will. With all the hype about them moving and with a strong all-star PG I am sure they will be able to lure another 1 or 2 quality players to New Jersey.

I wonder if D-Will will be hangin with Jay-Z tonight ??

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Great topic for the

Great topic for the thread.

Also this trade was genius by the Jazz they get a decent PG, Favors and 2 1st rounders. Also the Nets have the 6th worst record in the league right now how much better is Deron going to make them this year.

If DWill decides he doesn't want to sign next year what makes you think the Nets will get back a ton for him. Just because the Nuggets GM made the Knicks give up all that for Mello doesn't mean another team will do the same. The PG position is stacked with very good players many that are available. Its a different story for SFs most are locked up in long term deals. Only SF's that are available really and not overpaid are Batum, Gallo, Gerald Wallace all 3 are young, have potential and are worth trading for. Jeff Green is a player who comes to mind since he can play the 3.

If Deron doesn't sign an extension the Nets look really bad with this trade, I know they are desperate for a star but they weren't awful at the PG position. They need wing players badly and a PF too, they have a lot of holes to fill. They probably have one of the worst SG,SF, PF starters in the league outside of the Cavs.

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favors

i can see favors being a bust, i mean i know how everyone says hes young, but he seriously didnt show anything at all to even hint that he was going to be great, hes only a year younger than john wall and demarcus cousins, and theyve already shown infinite more potential than favors has

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Bulls

The bulls rightnow now are showing you what great pg play can get you, you dont need a super sf when have great pg play you need a decent sf Deng
when you dont have great pg play you better have a super player @ some other position ,lakers
If i have my super sf i still need a great pg to suceed or a top tier pg ......okc

The nets are on to the start of something good .......

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The Nets were never really

The Nets were never really going to be able to rebuild via FA last season after a 12-70 record but this summer they will be in a better position. They could chase someone like David West for example or try to add a Battier, Prince. AK47 type player to play at SF.

D-Will has as long left on his contract as Jason Kidd did when he moved from NJ to Dallas so the risk of this trade is the same as that one.

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The Nets in free agency

We've seen that, even with the Brooklyn aspect and the young talent they have, no-one has wanted to go there. Deron doesn't want to be there. And there are no indications he will be signing an extension. So, I don't see that actually benefitting them, in fact, it could hurt them, if their new star player is openly saying I don't want to play here, that hurts their credibility as a franchise. The Nets now pretty much have to sell out and go for broke and try to win as much as possible as soon as possible, to entice D-Will to stay in New Jersey. If he doesn't stay, this deal was a major loss for the Nets, because you gave up a potential great player and the face of your franchise for nothing. Even if Favors isn't a star, the Nets now do not have a PF of the future at all, and the Nets probably aren't going to be drafting high enough to get Williams or Sullinger to play PF for them, and after that it's very questionable any other PF has the potential Favors has. Getting D-Will makes Prokhorov look good and temporarily gives them a star player, but D-Will alone will not make the Nets relevant and they have a long way to go yet to become relevant.

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