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Wolves/Clippers idea

This deal would be based on the assumption that Irving is available at #2 and Deandre Jordan would sign a RFA tender with us. I know that the CBA uncertainty makes this unlikely to happen, but I think it would be a fair deal for both.

Clips get Darko and either Irving or Rubio

Wolves get our pick back next year and Deandre Jordan (Clips agree to not match our offer)

I think this is a win for both teams. Clips get their PG of the future to pair with Blake and Gordon. We get our pick back, a defensive, athletic presence and we don't need both PG's


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Just do a sign and trade for

Just do a sign and trade for Jordan dont leave it to chance.

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As a Clippers fan i don't

As a Clippers fan i don't mind this deal at all. I would prefer to get Rubio than Irving but thats just me, either one would be great. The Clips would obviously have to find a way to move Mo Williams but that is doable. I really like what Deandre Jordan could become defensively but Darko did pick his game up some this year. The only thing is giving that pick back. That pick could end up being a top 3 pick again next year and that draft class is looking as though it will be very strong. Very intriguing trade idea though.

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Horrible value trade

For the Timberwolves. Why would they do this, just to get a pick back that will probably not equal the one they are giving up this year? For a Center who has done incredibly little to show he is worth trading for the second pick in any draft? DeAndre Jordan averaged 25.6 minutes per game with 7.1 rpg and 7.2 rpg people. Darko averaged 8.8 and 5.2 in 24.4. You are getting a slight upgrade in defense and rebounding, but not by much. Plus, I am guessing Jordan is going to want more money than Darko as such. Not to mention that Jordan is 22 and Darko is 25, not a huge age difference.

Do not know why people are going this crazy about DeAndre Jordan. His third season was encouraging, but he hardly seems like an anchor at Center as of yet. Plus, once he gets his money, will he still have the incentive to improve? Yes, he probably should have gone higher than 35th in the draft, but he is 34th in the 2008 draft in scoring average thus far during his NBA career. Amongst the 2008 class, he is not a lottery pick. Yes, this is a down year for the draft, and it will sting to lose a pick next year, but you can do a lot more with the 2nd pick in the draft than trade for DeAndre Jordan.

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stop tryin

stop messing with the clips now that they are finally good. they have solid starters and amazing depth. with a weakened west this team could be next years grizzlies. i think jordan is a key part to that. bring in prince at sf, stay healthy and u could be looking at 2nd round playoffs next year. enjoy the best ticket in LA for years to come!!

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You do realize you would be

You do realize you would be getting Rubio or Irving out of the deal

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You do realize you would be

You do realize you would be getting Rubio or Irving out of the deal

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You do realize you would be

You do realize you would be getting Rubio or Irving out of the deal

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T Wolves say no...why trade two starters for Jordan

Just make up for trading that 2012 pick in the first place...Wolves would give up 2nd pick(Irving or Knight) and Beasley for E Gordon and D Jordan...Clippers can sign another C to backup Kaman(you know the best center on your team Smh) and keep the Wolves pick next year( The Wolves will likely still be in the lottery as would the Clippers, safe bet is they get the 6th and 14th pick in a deep draft in 2012, they can get Rivers or Lamb to play Sg and one of the Best Players Available to fill in the holes where needed...Having A core of Irving/Beasley/Blake gives you a great young point guard and 2 great scorers to pass to, Aminu and Bledsoe are two good role players and Kaman and Williams give you a veteran presence and contract flexibility over the next few years to resign Beasley and Blake, having two top 16 picks in next years draft doesn't hurt their cause, they'd have the cap room this summer to sign Nick Young to play Sg in Los Angeles and makes losing Gordon to the T Wolves a little less shocking....The Wolves solve 2 major holes at Sg and C...yes Darko and Deandre make for a great 1/2 defensive punch at C, and give Love two huge defenders behind him on the block and athletic ones to boot, a Rubio/Gordon backcourt with a front line consisting of Love/Darko/Randolph/Jordan, with Flynn and Johnson playing huge roles off the bench, getting a veteran Sf makes all the sense in the world and with Al Jefferson's trade exemption and cap space available they can have their choice of Sf over the next two years...this trade give Love help on the block and Rubio a great backcourt mate...which trade makes more sense...2nd pick and Darko for Jordan and T Wolves 2012 pick or 2nd pick and Mike Beasley for Eric Gordon and Deandre Jordan...

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Eric Gordon is so far ahead

Eric Gordon is so far ahead of Mike Beasley its ridiculous. Plus I don't see Blake and Beasley playing well together at all. Eric Gordon is close to being a franchise player there is no way they trade him for picks and Beasley.

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Gordon is no where near a franchise player either ...

Beasley and Griffin would make for a great Forward tandem...they can work together very well as they are both ballers...Gordon is great but not a franchise guy at all unless your franchise is called the Clippers pre Griffin...Gordon is a great scoring guard but he's not at all a league leading scoring threat and franchise changer, not saying Beasley is either but the Clippers would add him and Kyrie Irving or Brandon Knight with the 2nd pick for Gordon and Jordan, they can easily replace Gordon with Nick Young in free agency or a great guard next year with two top 16 picks in a deep draft...Jordan is no where near the player Beasley is or Knight/Irving will be soon, Gordon and Beasley can be debated because I would want a 6'9, 20 point scorer over a 6'3 scorer with a history of injuries...stop thinking so closed minded and realize you'd be getting two 2nd overall picks in Beasley and Brandon Knight(who I would take over Irving) for Eric Gordon and Jordan(35th overall pick in his draft)...figure in the fact you can sign Nick Young to score points for a lol cheaper than it will take to lock up Gordon(if that's even possible, they are the Clippers) and a veteran C like Dalembert too replicate what Jordan gave you for the MLE, add 2 high picks next year and LA is set with Williams/Knight/Bledsoe at Pg, Nick Young/Foye and draft pick in 2012 at Sg, Beasley and Aminu at Sf, Blake and Draft pick in 2012 at Pf and Kaman and MLE signing at C...Williams and Kaman give the Clippers cap space in 2 years and can easily resign Beasley and Blake long term...that team is better than a core of Gordon/Jordan and Blake...

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Eric Gordon can "easily" be

Eric Gordon can "easily" be replaced by Nick Young... Really? I see you're still hating on Gordon... I guess you think he could be "easily" replaced by JR Smith too, huh? When are you going to accept the fact that he's not just a scoring guard? Not only does he play better team ball and have better shot selection than those players, he actually plays defense. He defends three positions, despite being 6' 3".

I agree that Gordon isn't a franchise player and he has had some injuries (though nothing major), you need to cut that hate out. You've been doing it for too long...

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I would take Gordon over

I would take Gordon over Beasley any day of the week. The guy plays both ends of the floor, is very underrated in playmaking, can score and works hard. Talking to the head T'Wolves head strength and conditioning coach the two days ago it seems like pulling teeth to get Beasley to workout. They had him doing some of the most elementary easy exercises and he was &$#%#&@!ing the whole time. I rather have a less talented player who works his ass off than a all-star talent who is a bum. If you watched the Clippers before Gordon got hurt he was easily in consideration for being an all-star and most improved.

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Yo IB Eric Gordon is one of my favorite players in the league...

You must be confusing me telling the cold hard facts about a great young player with " hating ", yes Gordon is a great combo guard, scores effectively and can defend both guard spots(where u got the idea he can guard Sf's in the NBA I don't know, must be an Indiana thing) but he's 6'3 and injury prone, and as much as I love his skill and Passion for the game he is not irreplaceable, you can get 20 points a game in a lot of ways, yes Nick Young and JR Smith are two of them, OJ Mayo is another...Jr and OJ actually contributed on playoff teams and Young has the size Gordon lacks and about the same offensive fire power when on his game...I love Eric Gordon once again, he stepped up big this year and when healthy he was a borderline all star but....he's a guy you worry about getting away in free agency(yes I believe he will leave when his rookie deal is up, they are the Clippers) he has major injury concerns(yes all the little injuries catch up big time) and he is still stuck in the middle of tweenerville...at 6'3 he will inevitably become a defensive liability playing the Sg(reality is he can't check the bigger and better guards and unless you draft a 6'6 pg that can defend Gordon's man and effectively run the offense and play off Griffin) so Indiana does the trade make sense or not, would u trade Gordon and Jordan for Beasley and the 2nd pick in the draft(Irving or Knight) knowing you can sign Young and reload next year with 2 first round picks or ....would you keep Gordon, resign him for near max money in 2 years which the Clippers will likely have to do to retain him and hope he plays more games then he misses, keeping DJ means you pay 2 centers next year about 20 million dollars combined and go about Clippers business, wasting the potential of Gordon and Griffin in the great years of the careers...Clippers have no Pg and they cant wait another year to draft one and begin the development then, they also lack another killer on offense, enter Beasley, he and Blake would he incredible together, fire and ice...the Wolves lack a scorer at Sg and true shot blocking C with tremendous athletism(sorry Darko your more a power meets grace type big man) Love needs shot blockers behind him and DJ is just that, throw in Gordon's scoring next to Rubio's passing ability and Love's all around game and you have something, Flynn and Johnson should be kept as a dynamic bench duo providing a punch off the pine along with AR15, with the Trade exemption and cap room they'll have to can make play for a veteran Sf

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Also if you want to keep

Also if you want to keep Blake with the Clippers you better start making him happy, Deandre and him are best friends and it wouldn't go over well to trade him for Darko and an unproven rookie PG.

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Gordon is 6'3 with a 6'9 wing

Gordon is 6'3 with a 6'9 wing span and build strong as an ox who gets at it. He really isn't that much of a defensive liability if you watch the games. But the deal would be great for the t'wovles, I agree with that, I just don't think the clippers would be interested in messing with what they think is the core of their future.

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good point Cilberto, i dont think the Cluppers take the risk

They need a pg and I don't think Bledsoe is it, maybe they wait it out until next year and maybe Minnesota tries to get another Sg like Nick Young or Rudy Fernandez...

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