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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 4:32am #58033
JoeWolf1It’s that time again. Here’s my breakdown of how I believe the latest crop of rookies will produce this season. As always feel free to agree, hate on, or discuss any of my predictions.
1. Andrew Wiggins – 28.5 mpg – 13.1 ppg 4.3 rpg 1.2 apg 1.6 spg .9 bpg – 41/37/78
2. Jabari Parker – 33.5 mpg – 17.1 ppg 6.5 rpg 1.0 apg .6 spg .8 bpg – 44/35/74
3. Joel Embiid – I think he’ll sit the whole year
4. Aaron Gordon – 17 mpg – 6 ppg 4.5 rpg 1 apg 1.1 spg .6 bpg – 45/26/53
5. Dante Exum – 21.3 mpg – 7.3 ppg 2.1 rpg 2.9 apg 1.1 spg .4 bpg – 38/35/68
6. Marcus Smart – (w/o Rondo) – 32.2 mpg – 12.6 ppg 4.5 rpg 4.2 apg 1.8 spg .5 bpg – 39/35/74
( w Rondo ) – 24. mpg – 8.8 ppg 3.6 rpg 2.9 apg 1.3 spg .3 bpg – 39/35/74
7. Julius Randle – 18.9 ppg – 6.9 ppg 4.9 rpg .7 apg .6 spg .3 bpg – 46/10/67
8. Nik Stauskas – 20 mpg – 7.4 ppg 1.7 rpg 1.5 apg .5 spg .1 bpg – 40/37/81
9. Noah Vonleh – 13.5 mpg – 3.3 rpg 3.5 rpg .3 apg .25 spg .6 bpg – 43/33/68
10. Elfrid Payton – 33.5 mpg – 14.1 ppg 3.8 rpg 7.2 apg 1.3 spg .4 bpg – 44/27/66
11. Doug McDermott – 27.5 mpg 15.7 ppg 4 rpg 1.9 apg .3 spg .2 bpg – 46/41/85
12. Dario Saric – overseas
13. Zach LaVine – 22.3 mpg – 9.4 ppg 2.1 rpg 1.9 apg .7 spg .3 bpg – 40/36/70
14. T.J. Warren – 15.2 mpg – 5.9 ppg 1.2 rpg .3 apg .3 spg .2 bpg – 45/28/65
15. Adreian Payne – 10.2 mpg – 3.7 ppg 2 rpg .3 apg .15 spg .25 bpg – 46/33/71
16. Jusuf Nurkic – 11.8 mpg – 3.6 ppg 2.5 rpg .1 apg .2 spg .5 bpg – 50/0/66
17. James Young – 12.5 mpg – 4.7 ppg 1.6 rpg .9 apg .4 spg .1 bpg – 39/37/70
18. Tyler Ennis – 9.1 mpg – 2.9 ppg 1 rpg 1.5 apg .3 spg 0 bpg – 37/35/75
19. Gary Harris – 16.1 mpg – 6.2 ppg 1.8 rpg 1.6 apg .6 spg .1 bpg – 39/38/76
20. Bruno Caboclo – 8.6 mpg – 2.5 ppg 1.3 rpg .1 apg .4 spg .2 bpg – 38/31/70
21. Mitch McGary – 17.5 mpg – 5.1 ppg 4.9 rpg .9 apg .4 spg .4 bpg – 51/0/59
22. Jordan Adams – 20 mpg – 8.1 ppg 2 rpg 1.5 apg 1.1 spg .2 bpg – 42/34/82
23. Rodney Hood – 18.1 mpg – 6.8 ppg 1.7 rpg .8 apg .5 spg .2 bpg – 40/38/80
24. Shabazz Napier – 9.8 mpg – 3.2 ppg .9 rpg 1 apg .5 spg 0 bpg – 36/35/79
25. Clint Capela – 11.1 mpg – 2.4 ppg 2.6 rpg .1 apg .3 spg 1.05 bpg – 48/0/45
26. P.J. Hairston – 10.5 mpg – 4.1 ppg 1.2 rpg .5 apg .6 spg .1 bpg – 42/37/83
27. Bogdan Bogdanovic – overseas
28. C.J. Wilcox – 7.5 mpg – 2.3 ppg 1.1 rpg .3 apg .2 spg 0 bpg – 37/33/77
29. Josh Huestis – 9.5 mpg – 1.8 ppg 1.3 rpg .1 apg .4 spg .15 bpg – 42/30/64
30. Kyle Anderson – 9.1 mpg – 2.5 ppg 1.3 rpg 1 apg .1 spg .1 bpg – 42/37/70
2013 Picks
6. Nerlens Noel – 24.5 mpg – 7.3 ppg 6.9 rpg 1.2 apg 1.1 spg 1.6 bpg – 49/0/70
16. Bebe Nogueira – 12.5 mpg – 2.8 ppg 2.5 rpg .2 apg .3 spg 1.1 bpg – 50/0/59
50. James Ennis – 9.5 mpg – 4.1 ppg 1.5 rpg .8 apg .4 spg .2 bpg – 40/33/72
2011 Picks
23. Nikola Mirotic – 18.5 mpg – 9 ppg 3.6 rpg .7 apg .5 spg .3 bpg – 48/35/81
31. Bojan Bogdanovic – 21.5 mpg – 10.1 ppg 1.9 rpg 1.5 apg .4 spg .1 bpg – 47/34/81
All – Rookie 1st Team
G – Elfrid Payton
G – Marcus Smart
F – Andrew Wiggins
F – Jabari Parker
F – Doug McDermott
All – Rookie 2nd Team
G – Bojan Bogdanovic
G – Zach LaVine
F – K. J. McDaniels – 28.5 mpg – 10.4 ppg 4.4 rpg 1.2 rpg 1.2 spg 1 bpg – 41/33/76
F – Nikola Mirotic
C – Nerlens Noel
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 5:10am #949784
redsoxfreak724ParticipantI think as a whole your 3 PT percentages are a little high, but really well done. Would love to see McDermott put up those kinds of numbers
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 5:10am #949919
redsoxfreak724ParticipantI think as a whole your 3 PT percentages are a little high, but really well done. Would love to see McDermott put up those kinds of numbers
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 6:53am #949788
Memphis MadnessParticipantThose are pretty low averages across the board.
I agree with most of them though.
The stats don’t scream "best class since 2003" to me.
0- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:19am #949804
JoeWolf1A lot of the guys weren’t ready to make an imapact as rookies, or maybe their team situation might leave them with a smaller role.
Still rookie production is the end all be all
Speaking of 96′, these rookie stats don’t exactly jump off the page.
Steve Nash – 3.3 ppg 2.1 apg
Kobe Bryant – 7.9 ppg 1.6 rpg
Peja – 8.4 ppg 3.3 rpg
Jermaine O’Neal – 4.1 ppg 2.8 rpg
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:19am #949939
JoeWolf1A lot of the guys weren’t ready to make an imapact as rookies, or maybe their team situation might leave them with a smaller role.
Still rookie production is the end all be all
Speaking of 96′, these rookie stats don’t exactly jump off the page.
Steve Nash – 3.3 ppg 2.1 apg
Kobe Bryant – 7.9 ppg 1.6 rpg
Peja – 8.4 ppg 3.3 rpg
Jermaine O’Neal – 4.1 ppg 2.8 rpg
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 6:53am #949923
Memphis MadnessParticipantThose are pretty low averages across the board.
I agree with most of them though.
The stats don’t scream "best class since 2003" to me.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 7:13am #949790
RUDEBOY_Participantu seem to be pretty high on payton,14 ppg?
0- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:15am #949802
JoeWolf1Yeah, from what I’ve read, he’s going to be their starter. He doesn’t have the best jumper, but he can excel in transition, and get to the rim.
10 ppg is about as low as it goes for a starting point guard these days. Mario Chalmers (9.8) Ricky Rubio (9.5) Patrick Beverly (10.2) Jose Calderon ( 11.4) are a few of the lower scoring starting PG’s I looked at, and all of them have dynamic wings or big men.
Although, I don’t think Payton is necessarily a better scorer than any of those guys outside of Rubio, I think with Tobias Harris, Oladipo, and Vucevic being his team’s main offensive options, they’ll be a little more room for him to boast a slightly higher scoring average. They’re a promising young bunch, but they’re not the caliber of guys to share shots with as Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Love, Harden, DH, Dirk, or Ellis.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:15am #949937
JoeWolf1Yeah, from what I’ve read, he’s going to be their starter. He doesn’t have the best jumper, but he can excel in transition, and get to the rim.
10 ppg is about as low as it goes for a starting point guard these days. Mario Chalmers (9.8) Ricky Rubio (9.5) Patrick Beverly (10.2) Jose Calderon ( 11.4) are a few of the lower scoring starting PG’s I looked at, and all of them have dynamic wings or big men.
Although, I don’t think Payton is necessarily a better scorer than any of those guys outside of Rubio, I think with Tobias Harris, Oladipo, and Vucevic being his team’s main offensive options, they’ll be a little more room for him to boast a slightly higher scoring average. They’re a promising young bunch, but they’re not the caliber of guys to share shots with as Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Love, Harden, DH, Dirk, or Ellis.
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 7:13am #949925
RUDEBOY_Participantu seem to be pretty high on payton,14 ppg?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 7:17am #949792
RUDEBOY_Participantcant wait to see how mcgary performs in preseason…he could average a double double..but i doubt he’ll get the minutes…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 7:17am #949927
RUDEBOY_Participantcant wait to see how mcgary performs in preseason…he could average a double double..but i doubt he’ll get the minutes…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 7:49am #949798
providencefriars1ParticipantI think Russ Smith could have a nice rookie year.. He will be used to pressure the ball and could play with any of the other guards because they have the size to guard two’s
0- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:30am #949808
JoeWolf1Yeah, I agree there. I wrote a post about a month ago about my top 5 second rounders. It’s a bit outdated now with Jordan McRae signing overseas, and I have since upped my production estimate on McDaniels, but I my prediction with Russ is still one I stand behind.
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/wolfs-top-5-second-round-contributors
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:30am #949943
JoeWolf1Yeah, I agree there. I wrote a post about a month ago about my top 5 second rounders. It’s a bit outdated now with Jordan McRae signing overseas, and I have since upped my production estimate on McDaniels, but I my prediction with Russ is still one I stand behind.
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/wolfs-top-5-second-round-contributors
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 7:49am #949933
providencefriars1ParticipantI think Russ Smith could have a nice rookie year.. He will be used to pressure the ball and could play with any of the other guards because they have the size to guard two’s
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:00am #949800
Swim34061ParticipantLove your work. 2 quick comments – I can’t imagine Thibs giving that many minutes to a rookie that can’t play any D, regardless of how he performs on the other end. Conversly, I think Randle gets as many minutes as he can handle. Otherwise these look good to me.
0- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:26am #949806
JoeWolf1Thanks, I did go a little crazy with Doug. When I sat down to do research, I didn’t exactly expect me to put him that high, but I guess what it boils down to is that I don’t have a lot of faith Chicago can stay healthy, and I think they could use a guy not afraid to shoot. You’re right, though, easily my least conservative pick, could look really smart or really dumb in a year for that one, lol.
My thing with Randle is that Kobe wants to win, and Boozer gives them a better chance right now. That being said, if Kobe goes down and all of a sudden it’s the Lakers squad with Swaggy P is the #1 option, and Xavier Henry starting at the 2, then I could see Randle getting a ton more minutes and putting up something like 12/7.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:26am #949941
JoeWolf1Thanks, I did go a little crazy with Doug. When I sat down to do research, I didn’t exactly expect me to put him that high, but I guess what it boils down to is that I don’t have a lot of faith Chicago can stay healthy, and I think they could use a guy not afraid to shoot. You’re right, though, easily my least conservative pick, could look really smart or really dumb in a year for that one, lol.
My thing with Randle is that Kobe wants to win, and Boozer gives them a better chance right now. That being said, if Kobe goes down and all of a sudden it’s the Lakers squad with Swaggy P is the #1 option, and Xavier Henry starting at the 2, then I could see Randle getting a ton more minutes and putting up something like 12/7.
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:00am #949935
Swim34061ParticipantLove your work. 2 quick comments – I can’t imagine Thibs giving that many minutes to a rookie that can’t play any D, regardless of how he performs on the other end. Conversly, I think Randle gets as many minutes as he can handle. Otherwise these look good to me.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:49am #949810
TarHeelRavenParticipantThat’s a.good.list.man. I think the general consensus with Gordon is that he has a long ways to go offensively and those numbers for him look about right with.an absolutely atrocious three point and free throw shooting.percentage. He’ll be good on D and in transition but will struggle mightily in the half court on offense. If Dougie buckets comes.even close to 15 and 4 on a Chicago team expected to compete for.the east, he should be the rookie of the year easily. I know the general consensus is jabari, but he’s going to Jack up a ton of shots on a bad team and his.defense.is.awful. dougie will at least.be playing.for.a.coach that demands defensive effort and I.think he won’t be as bad.on D as.people think. Doug is a much better shooter than jabari and.Will be way more.efficient. Will be interesting.to see how.all this plays out.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 8:49am #949945
TarHeelRavenParticipantThat’s a.good.list.man. I think the general consensus with Gordon is that he has a long ways to go offensively and those numbers for him look about right with.an absolutely atrocious three point and free throw shooting.percentage. He’ll be good on D and in transition but will struggle mightily in the half court on offense. If Dougie buckets comes.even close to 15 and 4 on a Chicago team expected to compete for.the east, he should be the rookie of the year easily. I know the general consensus is jabari, but he’s going to Jack up a ton of shots on a bad team and his.defense.is.awful. dougie will at least.be playing.for.a.coach that demands defensive effort and I.think he won’t be as bad.on D as.people think. Doug is a much better shooter than jabari and.Will be way more.efficient. Will be interesting.to see how.all this plays out.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 9:26am #949812
RUDEBOY_Participantwill you adjust your predictions for these guys after seeing how they perform in preseason?
0- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 9:35am #949816
JoeWolf1Maybe, I waited until after the pre-season last year, but honestly I did them early this year because the forum has been so dead, lol.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 9:35am #949951
JoeWolf1Maybe, I waited until after the pre-season last year, but honestly I did them early this year because the forum has been so dead, lol.
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 9:26am #949947
RUDEBOY_Participantwill you adjust your predictions for these guys after seeing how they perform in preseason?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 9:29am #949814
prophetmeirParticipantI really like KJ numbers I think he has a shot at first team, I dont know about mcdermet and his numbers and I think randle and gordan would get way more PT
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 9:29am #949949
prophetmeirParticipantI really like KJ numbers I think he has a shot at first team, I dont know about mcdermet and his numbers and I think randle and gordan would get way more PT
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 11:07am #949818
BobbyqrsParticipantMcdermotts numbers are way high. I don’t think his scoring will translate that well to the nba this early. Also, the bulls have quite a few veteran scoring options. Marcus Smart numbers right on (Celtics fan)
0- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 1:28pm #949832
Rip255I really like McDermott and think that he could easily get 15ppg…
He is a great scorer and will get plenty of minutes. He only needs to split SF minutes with Snell, and I’m giving the edge to McDermott so am looking at him to get 30 mpg.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 1:28pm #949967
Rip255I really like McDermott and think that he could easily get 15ppg…
He is a great scorer and will get plenty of minutes. He only needs to split SF minutes with Snell, and I’m giving the edge to McDermott so am looking at him to get 30 mpg.
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 11:07am #949953
BobbyqrsParticipantMcdermotts numbers are way high. I don’t think his scoring will translate that well to the nba this early. Also, the bulls have quite a few veteran scoring options. Marcus Smart numbers right on (Celtics fan)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 11:15am #949822
nill650ParticipantI’ve never been much of a stats follower, I analize the way a player affects the game.
However, I would be a fool to not have some interest in these estimates,
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my prediction is that despite the minutes they will get on there current rosters most rookies will not put up good numbers accross the board. some will have high scoring and others a good rebound total.
the only 5 players in the draft I can see filling it up if givin minutues across the page are payne,parker,mcgary,randle and pj hairston.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 11:15am #949957
nill650ParticipantI’ve never been much of a stats follower, I analize the way a player affects the game.
However, I would be a fool to not have some interest in these estimates,
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my prediction is that despite the minutes they will get on there current rosters most rookies will not put up good numbers accross the board. some will have high scoring and others a good rebound total.
the only 5 players in the draft I can see filling it up if givin minutues across the page are payne,parker,mcgary,randle and pj hairston.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 4:00pm #949840
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantI agree with most of these besides Nerlens Noel and Doug Mcdermott, I don’t think McBucket’s stats will be that good and I also don’t think he will get as much time as you said, and it’s the opposite for Noel, I think he’ll get more time, and put up better stats, but everything else is pretty close, and of course Huestis won’t get any minutes and any stats at all, because he’ll be in the D-League all year, unless they changed that from the agreement they had after the draft. But these are good.
Rookie of the year.
Parker, Payton, Smart, or Noel?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/29/2014 - 4:00pm #949975
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantI agree with most of these besides Nerlens Noel and Doug Mcdermott, I don’t think McBucket’s stats will be that good and I also don’t think he will get as much time as you said, and it’s the opposite for Noel, I think he’ll get more time, and put up better stats, but everything else is pretty close, and of course Huestis won’t get any minutes and any stats at all, because he’ll be in the D-League all year, unless they changed that from the agreement they had after the draft. But these are good.
Rookie of the year.
Parker, Payton, Smart, or Noel?
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