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  • #52199
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    don042488
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    With the latest injury to Emeka Okafor, I feel the Wizards should trade their 2014 1st round pick, Jan Vesely, Kevin Seraphin, and the expiring contract of Trevor Ariza, to the Phoenix Suns, for Marcin Gortat, Channing Frye, and Kendall Marshall…I tried it in the ESPN Trade Machine, it works out financially…This deal gives Vesely a chance to develop and also Seraphin to become a big factor, until Alex Len learns the pro game…Wizards on the other hand acquires a legit 6’11 center who’s great in pick and roll and can protect the paint, with his shot blocking prowess…Frye gives them a pick and pop big and Marshall gives them a 3rd string optionat point guard, behind Wall and Maynor

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  • #842332
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    As a Suns fan, I’d take that deal but I don’t think that Washington need to rush into anything until they know the extent of how long the guys will be sidelined for.

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  • #842222
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    As a Suns fan, I’d take that deal but I don’t think that Washington need to rush into anything until they know the extent of how long the guys will be sidelined for.

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    • #842336
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      don042488
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      A herniated disk is nothing to play with, Okafor should be out for some time….The Wizards have to make the playoffs this season to justify that big contract they gave John Wall, I would pull this deal off in a heartbeat if I’m the Wizards

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    • #842226
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      don042488
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      A herniated disk is nothing to play with, Okafor should be out for some time….The Wizards have to make the playoffs this season to justify that big contract they gave John Wall, I would pull this deal off in a heartbeat if I’m the Wizards

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  • #842338
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    WolfRob
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    trust me Don. No one is rushing to give you a job in a front office.

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  • #842228
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    WolfRob
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    trust me Don. No one is rushing to give you a job in a front office.

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    • #842340
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      don042488
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      If you say so, we’ll see

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    • #842230
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      don042488
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      If you say so, we’ll see

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  • #842342
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    Suckerpunch
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    No way Gortat is worth a 2014 first round pick. Phoenix would do this in a heartbeat.

    Just because it works in the ESPN trade machine, it doesn’t mean its a good trade! (Joe Johnson for Lebron probably works!)
    I’d keep the pick, keep the players and just sign a FA big to set screens for Wall, rebound and play defence.

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  • #842232
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    Suckerpunch
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    No way Gortat is worth a 2014 first round pick. Phoenix would do this in a heartbeat.

    Just because it works in the ESPN trade machine, it doesn’t mean its a good trade! (Joe Johnson for Lebron probably works!)
    I’d keep the pick, keep the players and just sign a FA big to set screens for Wall, rebound and play defence.

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    • #842344
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      don042488
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      With Gortat and Frye, a healthy Wizards team can make the playoffs, so the pick wouldn’t be relevant, it’s not like the Wizards play Vesely anyway, only Seraphin would be a lose, but Gortat would more than make up for his production

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    • #842234
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      don042488
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      With Gortat and Frye, a healthy Wizards team can make the playoffs, so the pick wouldn’t be relevant, it’s not like the Wizards play Vesely anyway, only Seraphin would be a lose, but Gortat would more than make up for his production

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      • #842270
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        The 2014 draft is one of the best predicted draft classes in history. Even if they do make the playoffs, it will be scrapping in on a 8th seed, so thats still a mid first round pick. I dont think management would be too disheartened if they miss the playoffs only to land a franchise player in the draft. A decline Marcin Gortat for a few years before he is useless, or a young stud like Joel Embiid or Mitch McGary for the next 4 at least. I know what I’m taking.

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      • #842380
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        The 2014 draft is one of the best predicted draft classes in history. Even if they do make the playoffs, it will be scrapping in on a 8th seed, so thats still a mid first round pick. I dont think management would be too disheartened if they miss the playoffs only to land a franchise player in the draft. A decline Marcin Gortat for a few years before he is useless, or a young stud like Joel Embiid or Mitch McGary for the next 4 at least. I know what I’m taking.

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  • #842346
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    Memphis Madness
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    The Suns don’t want Okafor and the Wizards shouldn’t trade a first round pick.
    I am not saying the Wizards should tank, but Julius Randle would look really nice next to
    John Wall, Brad Beal, and Otto Porter. Ok, the Wizards should tank. No point in losing in
    the first round.

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  • #842236
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    The Suns don’t want Okafor and the Wizards shouldn’t trade a first round pick.
    I am not saying the Wizards should tank, but Julius Randle would look really nice next to
    John Wall, Brad Beal, and Otto Porter. Ok, the Wizards should tank. No point in losing in
    the first round.

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    • #842240
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      don042488
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      I didn’t say anything about Okafor being involved in the trade…I said the Wizards should make this trade due to his injuries…Furthermore a team has go through growing pains, so what if the Wizards get knocked out the 1st round, they’ll get experience from it to be better as a team the next season

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    • #842350
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      don042488
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      I didn’t say anything about Okafor being involved in the trade…I said the Wizards should make this trade due to his injuries…Furthermore a team has go through growing pains, so what if the Wizards get knocked out the 1st round, they’ll get experience from it to be better as a team the next season

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  • #842348
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    WolfRob
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    Why do we even respond to this guy? Should’ve been done with him after that moronic kyrpt post!!!

    All he does, is start these terrible threads, and then he walks away from them when people start informing him of how stupid they are. It’s an endless cycle… I’m tired of it.

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  • #842238
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    WolfRob
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    Why do we even respond to this guy? Should’ve been done with him after that moronic kyrpt post!!!

    All he does, is start these terrible threads, and then he walks away from them when people start informing him of how stupid they are. It’s an endless cycle… I’m tired of it.

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    • #842242
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      don042488
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      Stop reading my post if you have a problem with me and stop bitching

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      • #842250
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        WolfRob
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        Crip Don, not Kyrpt.

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      • #842360
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        WolfRob
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        Crip Don, not Kyrpt.

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    • #842352
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      don042488
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      Stop reading my post if you have a problem with me and stop bitching

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  • #842268
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    TRC1991
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    The Wizards still have Nene, who was a more than serviceable center with the Nuggets for many years…Not sure why you’re rushing to add another center. Kevin Seraphin is a good backup center and will probably split time with Al Harrington and Trevor Booker at the 4 until Okafor is healthy again

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  • #842378
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    TRC1991
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    The Wizards still have Nene, who was a more than serviceable center with the Nuggets for many years…Not sure why you’re rushing to add another center. Kevin Seraphin is a good backup center and will probably split time with Al Harrington and Trevor Booker at the 4 until Okafor is healthy again

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  • #842284
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    TheTruth86
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    .. this is the key word regarding Wizard’s frontcourt. Velely is 6’11” but no way he plays center, cause he lacks strength. Hamed Haddadi or Cole Aldrich – free agents who can play backup to Nene and Seraphin. I guess it’s tempting to get rid of Ariza’s contract, but who will start at SF ? Porter is not ready and if Harrington and Vesely fail to provide at PF then Drew Gooden is still out there. He turns 32 in few days so he could be of service. Other big men available on the FA market – Joel Przybilla, Lou Amundson, Tyrus Thomas, Malcolm Thomas (he is not that big 😀 ), Chris Wilcox and Gana Diop.I think some of them could handle it at least for 10-15 mins per game rather than rushing into trades. If the hype is true any 1st round pick in ’14 Draft could end up a franchise player, so if I’m the GM I trade nothing – Wizz need Ariza to start at 3, Seraphin (still 24) to backup Nene and Meka and 1st rounder would be no farther than 16-17th spot. With Ariza’s contract expiring and Nene + Okafor tradeble Washington can make the playoffs, draft a very good young player in the mid-first round of the strongest draft class in a decade + clear cap space and eventually acquire a star player as a free agent and all that in one year. Huh, I guess it’s nice to be Wizz’ fan, I’ll never know..

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  • #842394
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    TheTruth86
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    .. this is the key word regarding Wizard’s frontcourt. Velely is 6’11” but no way he plays center, cause he lacks strength. Hamed Haddadi or Cole Aldrich – free agents who can play backup to Nene and Seraphin. I guess it’s tempting to get rid of Ariza’s contract, but who will start at SF ? Porter is not ready and if Harrington and Vesely fail to provide at PF then Drew Gooden is still out there. He turns 32 in few days so he could be of service. Other big men available on the FA market – Joel Przybilla, Lou Amundson, Tyrus Thomas, Malcolm Thomas (he is not that big 😀 ), Chris Wilcox and Gana Diop.I think some of them could handle it at least for 10-15 mins per game rather than rushing into trades. If the hype is true any 1st round pick in ’14 Draft could end up a franchise player, so if I’m the GM I trade nothing – Wizz need Ariza to start at 3, Seraphin (still 24) to backup Nene and Meka and 1st rounder would be no farther than 16-17th spot. With Ariza’s contract expiring and Nene + Okafor tradeble Washington can make the playoffs, draft a very good young player in the mid-first round of the strongest draft class in a decade + clear cap space and eventually acquire a star player as a free agent and all that in one year. Huh, I guess it’s nice to be Wizz’ fan, I’ll never know..

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  • #842309
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    44ears81

    The Wizards don’t need to worry about a center. They need to worry about signing Arenas after the clippers cut him.

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  • #842418
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    44ears81

    The Wizards don’t need to worry about a center. They need to worry about signing Arenas after the clippers cut him.

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  • #842311
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    terrancebower
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    Maybe for 2 second rounders but the 1st rounder is a back breaker in the 2014 draft for a player who prob wouldn’t be a part of the long term plans for Washington.

    I think Seraphin getting some time could be a big positive for Washington. He doesn’t protect the rim as well as Okafor, but he’s a good rebounder who is a better scorer for sure. I’ve always thought he could produce and have a mini break out year if he got some time.

    Washing needs to keep their picks because their big men are average starters and will need to be replaced whenever possible. Also, Porter isn’t a sure thing so they could end up still needing a SF next year.

    Phoenix would do this for sure though. They probably are already shopping Gortat but won’t let him go for just anything since he is really good, not just an expiring deal, and plus Len isn’t exactly NBA ready. A first round pick is quite a prize in this upcoming draft and Vesely might have some upside that can still be salvaged with a change of scenery.

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  • #842420
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    Maybe for 2 second rounders but the 1st rounder is a back breaker in the 2014 draft for a player who prob wouldn’t be a part of the long term plans for Washington.

    I think Seraphin getting some time could be a big positive for Washington. He doesn’t protect the rim as well as Okafor, but he’s a good rebounder who is a better scorer for sure. I’ve always thought he could produce and have a mini break out year if he got some time.

    Washing needs to keep their picks because their big men are average starters and will need to be replaced whenever possible. Also, Porter isn’t a sure thing so they could end up still needing a SF next year.

    Phoenix would do this for sure though. They probably are already shopping Gortat but won’t let him go for just anything since he is really good, not just an expiring deal, and plus Len isn’t exactly NBA ready. A first round pick is quite a prize in this upcoming draft and Vesely might have some upside that can still be salvaged with a change of scenery.

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  • #845586
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    anthony_DavIS23
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    Wow, pretty impressive Don

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  • #845697
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    anthony_DavIS23
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    Wow, pretty impressive Don

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  • #845622
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    Mr. 19134
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    Its funny looking at all the negatives he got because people wanted to just assume him and any idea he had is ridiculous instead of looking at something objectively and seeing how it could make sense. Gortat is a.natural fit for the Wizards and a great running mate for Wall. With Nene and Gortat the Wiz suddenly have a very strong and agile front line with speed and length to go along with Wall and Beal.

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  • #845732
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    Its funny looking at all the negatives he got because people wanted to just assume him and any idea he had is ridiculous instead of looking at something objectively and seeing how it could make sense. Gortat is a.natural fit for the Wizards and a great running mate for Wall. With Nene and Gortat the Wiz suddenly have a very strong and agile front line with speed and length to go along with Wall and Beal.

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  • #845626
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    Gortat is 29 now so Washington could look to resign him next summer and run him alongside Nene for the next few years, a lot will depend on what they do with Seraphin as he’d be looking for something in the $6 to $7 million a year range I’d figure. Gortat will probably see next summer as his last chance to get another good NBA contract but Washington could work around it and keep both if they maybe frontloaded Gortat or gave him a shorter deal to free up space for when all the rookie deal guys go onto their 2nd deal.

    Ariza comes off the books next summer and Beal’s 2nd deal won’t kick in until after Nene expires so they can work the figures and stay out of luxury tax I reckon.

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  • #845736
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    Gortat is 29 now so Washington could look to resign him next summer and run him alongside Nene for the next few years, a lot will depend on what they do with Seraphin as he’d be looking for something in the $6 to $7 million a year range I’d figure. Gortat will probably see next summer as his last chance to get another good NBA contract but Washington could work around it and keep both if they maybe frontloaded Gortat or gave him a shorter deal to free up space for when all the rookie deal guys go onto their 2nd deal.

    Ariza comes off the books next summer and Beal’s 2nd deal won’t kick in until after Nene expires so they can work the figures and stay out of luxury tax I reckon.

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  • #845640
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    All the trash talkers got over 10 points a post.. LoL..

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    The8thDeadlySin
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    All the trash talkers got over 10 points a post.. LoL..

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