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  • #54601
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    juves4783
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    what does this guy do?  he averaged pretty pedestrian numbers of 6.8 ppg 6.1 rpg and under 50% free throws (but did average a great 2.9 bpg).  with the injury and success of uk since moving dakari johnson into the starting lineup, does wcs declare or transfer?  i see an alex poythress situation happening if he stays with dakari johnson, trey lyles and karl towns jr coming in; eating up all the frontcourt minutes.  

    and not to mention, if wcs does stay, what about elite eight sensation malcolm lee?  the guy would have to transfer, right?

    lastly if wcs does declare, is he still a 1st rounder?  his stock reminds me of marshall center hassan whiteside.  went from a lottery pick to 2nd rounder to nba obscurity…

     

     

     

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  • #884274
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    samosas
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     Willie is a legit 7 footer who can run the floor as well as a guard.  You can’t teach that, and that’s a very desired skill in the NBA, so he’ll come out this year and he’ll get picked up first round.  He’s a smart kid, well-spoken and has no character issues and that goes a long way, too.

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  • #884161
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    samosas
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     Willie is a legit 7 footer who can run the floor as well as a guard.  You can’t teach that, and that’s a very desired skill in the NBA, so he’ll come out this year and he’ll get picked up first round.  He’s a smart kid, well-spoken and has no character issues and that goes a long way, too.

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    • #884278
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      i guess i’m a little more skeptical of the first round selection.  right now, nbadraft has him at 24.  i could easily see stauskas, harrison twins, napier and jordan adams moving up on the boards (all below 24).  especially with how well the guys listed played in the tourney (with the exception of adams maybe).  

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    • #884165
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      i guess i’m a little more skeptical of the first round selection.  right now, nbadraft has him at 24.  i could easily see stauskas, harrison twins, napier and jordan adams moving up on the boards (all below 24).  especially with how well the guys listed played in the tourney (with the exception of adams maybe).  

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      • #884257
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        Hale
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        I don’t disagree with you but someone will take him in the first for his measurables alone. He could be a big time paint protector with some seasoning and those are very valuable in the NBA. By all accounts he’s a great dude and he works hard which is why he’ll be unlikely have a DeAndre Jordan type fall into the second. Transferring to a smaller college would be high risk, high reward. You don’t want to risk something potentially disastrous happening such as being mediocre at a mid-major.

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      • #884370
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        Hale
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        I don’t disagree with you but someone will take him in the first for his measurables alone. He could be a big time paint protector with some seasoning and those are very valuable in the NBA. By all accounts he’s a great dude and he works hard which is why he’ll be unlikely have a DeAndre Jordan type fall into the second. Transferring to a smaller college would be high risk, high reward. You don’t want to risk something potentially disastrous happening such as being mediocre at a mid-major.

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    • #884284
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      juves4783
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      also clarkson just declared and i’m guessing he’s in the mid to late first too.

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    • #884171
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      juves4783
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      also clarkson just declared and i’m guessing he’s in the mid to late first too.

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  • #884290
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    Andrew1984
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    He has the potential to put together a Ryan Hollins-like career. How exciting.

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    Andrew1984
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    He has the potential to put together a Ryan Hollins-like career. How exciting.

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  • #884318
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    Tha King2121
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     Shot blocking big off the bench with energy is on almost every NBA team. He can be a Chris Anderson/Ekpe Udoh tpye player. Nothing wrong with 15 minutes a game on an average team

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  • #884205
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    Tha King2121
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     Shot blocking big off the bench with energy is on almost every NBA team. He can be a Chris Anderson/Ekpe Udoh tpye player. Nothing wrong with 15 minutes a game on an average team

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  • #884243
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    Kokayne_Dawkinz
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     How is Jordan clarkson sti considered an mid first round pick? This year has shown he is not an pg but a 2g. I think his jumper needs work. I would take WCS because of his hustle and energy and his ability to defend the pick and roll at an elite level which is critical in today’s NBA 

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  • #884356
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    Kokayne_Dawkinz
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     How is Jordan clarkson sti considered an mid first round pick? This year has shown he is not an pg but a 2g. I think his jumper needs work. I would take WCS because of his hustle and energy and his ability to defend the pick and roll at an elite level which is critical in today’s NBA 

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  • #884249
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    King Calucha
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    Long athletic big men who can rebound and block shots are desirable, but if it doesn’t pan out he’ll look overpaid even with mid 1st salary. I think the potential to be a decent rotation player is there, it’s up to him not to follow the steps of Javale.

    I’m not a big fan of his game, but with that athleticism there’s no way he falls to the 2nd round.

     

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  • #884362
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    Long athletic big men who can rebound and block shots are desirable, but if it doesn’t pan out he’ll look overpaid even with mid 1st salary. I think the potential to be a decent rotation player is there, it’s up to him not to follow the steps of Javale.

    I’m not a big fan of his game, but with that athleticism there’s no way he falls to the 2nd round.

     

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  • #884259
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    All he can do is run, dunk, block shots, alter shots, rebound some, and be seven feet tall.

    Then again, how is that a BAD thing?

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  • #884372
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    All he can do is run, dunk, block shots, alter shots, rebound some, and be seven feet tall.

    Then again, how is that a BAD thing?

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  • #884301
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    OP, if you seen Kentucky play, you’ll see how big of an impact he makes on the defensive end. he collects steals and blocks. he contests and alters alot of shots in the paint. 

    Willie Cauley Stein is a 1st round lock. he’s so athletic, long, and runs the floor better than most 7 footers. he’s raw on the offensive end and probably wont give you anything more than dunks, but with his athleticism and length, you give him a good PG and he can average double digit points jus off dunks.( jus like Tyson Chandler when he had CP3)

     

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  • #884414
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    OP, if you seen Kentucky play, you’ll see how big of an impact he makes on the defensive end. he collects steals and blocks. he contests and alters alot of shots in the paint. 

    Willie Cauley Stein is a 1st round lock. he’s so athletic, long, and runs the floor better than most 7 footers. he’s raw on the offensive end and probably wont give you anything more than dunks, but with his athleticism and length, you give him a good PG and he can average double digit points jus off dunks.( jus like Tyson Chandler when he had CP3)

     

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  • #884317
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    If WCS stays, I would make him watch some tapes of Joakim Noah.  I think he could be a poor man’s Noah if he works on rounding out his game. 

    I would then experiment with an ultra big lineup of WCS in the middle with Poythress and Marcus Lee at the other front court spots.  Then hopefully use Poythress or Lee in a stretch forward type role, like Terrance Jones when he was at UK.  Bring Dakari Johnson and Towns off the bench with some twin towers lineups of WCS and Johnson.

    Reward the returning players a bit, but make them all EARN their minutes. 

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  • #884430
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    If WCS stays, I would make him watch some tapes of Joakim Noah.  I think he could be a poor man’s Noah if he works on rounding out his game. 

    I would then experiment with an ultra big lineup of WCS in the middle with Poythress and Marcus Lee at the other front court spots.  Then hopefully use Poythress or Lee in a stretch forward type role, like Terrance Jones when he was at UK.  Bring Dakari Johnson and Towns off the bench with some twin towers lineups of WCS and Johnson.

    Reward the returning players a bit, but make them all EARN their minutes. 

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  • #884528
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    mjayb77
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    Cauley-Stein’s best offensive game is delivering an outlet pass to spark a fast-break, he could be a guy that averages 10 ppg on hustle plays alone if he commits himself to that role.  That being said I believe that he will not make it past the 29th pick.  Kendrick Perkins was never a good offensive player but made his name by defending Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum at their peaks.  Perkins has lost his ability on the defensive end of the court and cannot hide in close games; he invariably gets fouled and bricks both free throws.  Perkins is an amnesty candidate and given that he is due over $9 million next year I believe that the Thunder will choose to part ways with him and choose to spend that money on players that will help the Thunder contend in the prime of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook’s career.  Cauley-Stein would give Oklahoma City an athletic, defensive-minded big man with either the 21st or 29th (if the season ended today) picks.  

    The Thunder drafted Steven Adams with the 12th Overall Pick a year ago but he is only averaging 3 ppg and 4 rpg in 15 mpg and provides average defense at best.  WCS would give Oklahoma City a defensive-minded Center that could play 20 minutes per game, Adams could play 20 minutes as well with those two going offense-defense in tight games and 8 mpg with a small-ball line-up.  

     

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  • #884415
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    mjayb77
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    Cauley-Stein’s best offensive game is delivering an outlet pass to spark a fast-break, he could be a guy that averages 10 ppg on hustle plays alone if he commits himself to that role.  That being said I believe that he will not make it past the 29th pick.  Kendrick Perkins was never a good offensive player but made his name by defending Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum at their peaks.  Perkins has lost his ability on the defensive end of the court and cannot hide in close games; he invariably gets fouled and bricks both free throws.  Perkins is an amnesty candidate and given that he is due over $9 million next year I believe that the Thunder will choose to part ways with him and choose to spend that money on players that will help the Thunder contend in the prime of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook’s career.  Cauley-Stein would give Oklahoma City an athletic, defensive-minded big man with either the 21st or 29th (if the season ended today) picks.  

    The Thunder drafted Steven Adams with the 12th Overall Pick a year ago but he is only averaging 3 ppg and 4 rpg in 15 mpg and provides average defense at best.  WCS would give Oklahoma City a defensive-minded Center that could play 20 minutes per game, Adams could play 20 minutes as well with those two going offense-defense in tight games and 8 mpg with a small-ball line-up.  

     

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