They said he brought it in summer league. He is won of the most intense players to come out of college in a while. He plays physical and mean, and Indiana needs what he brings. He will get a lot of minutes off that and IQ alone. Will that intensity make him better than a lot of people on this site thought he would be? Could he contend for rookie of the year because the minutes will be there?
I think him and McRoberts could make a really interesting forward combo for Indiana in the future, one is athletic and versatile and the other is a banger. He is gonna get minutes, but i don't see him being a rookie of the year guy or anything, but definately a guy who is gonna get minutes on Indiana and live up to #12, if he were #5 probably not, but 12 yea
you no what...i was one of his biggest haters starting from his freshman year...but he has won me over over time..i watched the game yesterday online and i have to say he looked very good..he played great defense he got in the passing lanes for some good steals and he scored (17pts) on a couple of moves and the ugly hard working way he scored in college, you know the lil half hook shot and gettign fould while making a ugly lay up, i think hes gonna suprise some people..everything people use dto say about him have been proven wrong...trex arms..found out they are pretty long....cant jump..found out his vert is actually pretty good.....he also showed he has a reliable jumper....i wouldnt count this guy out..i have him as the constant over achiever
I think his worth ethic and passion for the game alone will help him rise among others, but hes not going to be a superstar, just a really good role player
In the eyes of NBA people, yes he will live up to his draft slot. Even if he is not the apple of fantasy managers' eyes. He will probably not be a fantasy stud, but they do not give points for bloody noses (given and recieved), staredowns, or good fouls. If he brings the pain in practice, and makes his teammates tougher, and gets about 10 and 8 (in the next few years), he will live up to his draft slot. ROY? It is really hard for big guys to get ROY, because they have to be passed to a lot.
My only reservation is that his good testing at the combine might be manufactured athleticism, as opposed to being fully functional game athleticism ... And he can never again try to dunk when his body is 5 feet from the basket. Dude you do not have an 11' wingspan!
I don't see him getting rookie of the year, but I would not be surprised if he is in the discussion.
lol..yeah that was pretty funny when he tried that bison...the announcers really pumped that up like he really did something...the other day in the game he had a nastttty dunk down the lane though
Hey scout4real, it's only one game and it's against 2nd or 3rd tier competition, so let's not jump the gun.
As you may or may not know, I am one of the guys who repeatedly said Hansbrough will become a far better pro than the many pundits who say he won't make it in the NBA. He's a guy who was double teamed virtually his entire career at NC because of his scoring ability, he is a big time winner on a national championship team, he has character, and he has the kind of drive and desire that is sometimes missing from some NBA players. In addition, he will fit right in with the team's chemistry and never be a problem for his coach.
I've said all along he won't be a star in the league, he will probably make the kind of contributions that Leon Powe and Louis Scola make for their teams. He will be a scoring threat, he will get his share of rebounds, and he will give 100% at all times. He's the kind of guy nobody wants to guard and someone you can depend on every game.
Having said that, I don't think he is good enough to be a candidate for Rookie of the Year. But with his drive and desire, reaching that level of play wouldn't shock me.
to tell people that hanbrough wont be a bust. i mean i know its just the summer league but he will be a solid rookie in the league this year i think. i used to be a huge hansbrough hater becuz im a duke fan but i realized the more i heard people talking trash about him that he is better than mkst think. i mean 1st of all u dont go to north carolina if u are a bad player. hell u dont lead the acc in scoring all time or even beat duke 4 straight years at cameron if u are a bad player
I was talking to a friend who played college ball and our friend Jack D. helped us come to the conclusion that he knew he was cetting an NCAA whistle, and thought why not. Still ... he comes to every game with his duffel bag full of sand, stones, nails, and a waterbottle full of diesel fuel. So no disrespect here.
Read what I wrote. I am not judging him I asked a question. I did not even see the game kid. I read he did well and I know how he plays. I asked a question it is different from a statment. Yes I do think he will be better than anticipated. Not and all star but he is going to get the minutes which equals numbers. Read and understand the question before you try to sound off kid.
Hey Scout4Real, you started your thread by saying, "They said he brought it in summer league."
I took that as an indication that you thought that performance was a basis for predicting how he would play. I was wrong and apologize.
By the way, if you read what I wrote, I essentially agreed with everything else you said. In retrospect, I worded it wrong, but my comments were in no way intended as a slight against you.
I do it sometimes too
I'm glad we could straighten that out. I focused on your first comment in the message and that was wrong.
I also want to say that I have tremendous respect for your opinions. You are one of the few people with whom I often agree. More importantly, I usually enjoy reading your comments.
YEAH we cant too much into a summer leauge game but we can notice things he might be able to do...some of the same peopel who dont take any stock in these games though take more stock in highschool all americans looking great in highschool games...thats kinda weird
Thanks rtbt. Lets keep talking ball cause I learn about players I don't know much about from most of the people here like you. All cleared up man.
Scout, Briefly, Hansbroughs problem will be the Pacers roster, and the voting system for ROY, not his game. If I were a scout4real, I'd tell my team to wear a mouthguard. He will be around until his mid-late 30s barring injury.
Jeff Foster surprised a lot of people with his solid play and I see Harbrough being that kind of player at the 4 that Foster is a the 5. I doubt he ever makes the all star game or be rookie of the year but he will be solid for many years.
As I mentioned to Scout4Real yesterday, it's a little premature to make a full scale assessment of Tyler Hansbrough based on a couple of summer league games. However, we've seen enough to draw some conclusions that are right in line with what I've been saying all along about him.
1. He's more physically talented than most of the so called draft pundits claimed. There were good reasons why he was the NCAA player of the Year and a guy who was double teamed virtually every game at NC.
2. One should never under estimate the power of drive and desire. If Darko Milicic had the drive and desire of Tyler Hansbrough, he would be a dominant big man in the league.
3. Those people who said Indiana made a mistake by drafting Hansbrough relatively early in the first round should eat their words. He is going to be a solid contributor, a character team guy, and a true professional for many years.
4. He's already proven that absurd NBADraft.net comparison with Mark Madsen was a joke. I think in the year 2009 players should be compared by ability, playing style and their impact upon a team. It's long past time to use superficial characteristics as the basis for a comparison.
I'm sticking with my prediction that his impact on Indiana will be very similar to what Leon Powe and Louis Scola do for Boston and Houston.
I like the Foster comparison. I think that's the same level of contribution Hansbrough brings, though statistically perhaps a little better scoring in exchange for being a lesser rebounder than Foster. All in all though, they should have similar careers - long duration, key/valuable reserve on a strong team, marginal starter on a bad team. Given his draft status, I think that would be ok. Like another post said, he wouldnt live up to draft status if he was taken 5th, but at mid first round, that should be sufficient.
I don't see the Foster comparison for a couple of reasons, but it does have merit. Jeff Foster is a terrific rebounder with virtually no offense, while Hansbrough is a mediocre rebounder with a potent offensive capability. It remains to be seen whether the type of offense he displayed at NC will translate to the NBA, but he's certainly far more of a scoring threat than Foster.
Having said that, I agree with your opinion of how they impact a team and your assessment of their NBA careers. So in that regard, it's not a bad comparison. It's far better than the NBADraft.net comparison with Mark Madsen, which was a joke.
I also agree with your assessment of being a mid first round choice versus a top 5 selection and one's expectations. I said on several occasions that obtaining a valuable role player with a mid first round choice is a smart move.
rtbt I agree w/ you 100% You're a smart dude and I usually agree with your posts. I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong & SO FAR I've been wrong about Hansbrough. As a Pacer fan, I was really critical of this pick. I've watched the last two games (though it's still only summer league) and he's really impressed me. Like you said, it still remains to be seen if his offensive ability will translate to the NBA, but I think he has a chance.
Tezo83, I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate the kinds words. I really enjoy conversations with intelligent people like you who are rational and logical. We don't have to agree all the time, but we should be able to discuss issues without resorting to personal attacks. Unfortunately there are some extremely immature people on this website who fall into that latter category.
I also appreciate it when someone is man enough to admit they were wrong. I did something that wasn't right with Scout4Real yesterday. It was unintentional and I didn't mean to offend him, but I WAS WRONG, so I apologized with my next message.
Once again, Hansbrough might become another example of how NBA GMs fail to get it right so often. We don't know yet how he will turn out, but I think it's safe to say he will be an outstanding professional for many years while some of the other guys drafted in the first round will turn into total busts.
And as I said in my previous message, getting a dependable and valuable role player in the middle of the first round constitutes a successful draft. And who knows? He might be good enough to actually become a starter for Indiana, so things are looking up for your franchise.
Great hustler player wif a good mid range jump shot, if he does well coming of tha bench look for tha pacers to ship troy murphy b4 tha trade deadline