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Will the Cavs retire LBJ's jersey?
Will the Cavs retire LeBron's jersey? It's a question that could go either way... Yes, because he put Cleveland on the map for 7 years, had 2 MVP seasons, reached the Finals and became 2007 East Champs... No, not after the way he treated the Cavs on national TV with his so-called "Decision.." what are your thoughts?

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No way

No way

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They should. He is the all

They should. He is the all time leading scorer in Cavs history right now. But if Dan Gilbert is still the owner after Lebron retires, he won't. If new ownership comes in they definitely will. The real question is, will he be booed at his jersey retirement ceremony?

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they definitely should

they definitely should

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they should clevleand dont

they should clevleand dont really have any good sport teams and for 7 years clevleand cavaliers relevant in the sports world and make the organzation alot richer

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I think they should

He did alot to that franchise, made them contenders. Media attention, attracting players like Shaq and Jamison. LeBron was the reason for all of the Cavs recent success.

Also, James is the Cavs all-time point scorer and their all-time steals leader, If that shouldn't seal it, nothing will.

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good question..lol i cant see

good question..lol

i cant see them doing it now,next year nor 5 years from now..but when lebron career winds down in 12 years..they'll do it..by that time all the ill feelings might have been healed...

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If Gilbert is the owner, then

If Gilbert is the owner, then they will probably retire Big Z's #11, but not #23 (just kidding).

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not if they are serious about

not if they are serious about having a winning attitude.

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You don't retire jersey's

You don't retire jersey's based on stats alone. You HAVE to factor in the relationship with the team and ownership. The way LeBron left, the way Cavs fans were burning jersey's after "the decision", the way Dan Gilbert responded in his letter--No way do they retire LeBron's jersey. (And if it were the happen it wouldn't for about 15-20 years anyways)

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You would think they would.

You would think they would. But after all that has happened recently it might not.

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Pretty Funny

Did you know LeBron and Brad Daugherty played the exact same number of regular season games for the Cavs at 548? That is a strange coincidence, big Brad averaged 19 ppg over his career, which was unfortunately ended by injury. He played in 5 All-Star Games and once led the Cavs to the ECF (well, along with Mark Price, Larry Nance and a solid core of players) in 1991-92, losing to the Bulls. His play-off averages were 19.1 ppg and 10.2 rpg, along with a solid 3.3 apg considering he was a 7 foot center. Brad also made the All-NBA 3rd team once, which is not at all bad considering the other centers in the league at the time. He was beloved by Cavs fans, the number 1 pick in the 1986 draft (known as the most cursed draft of all-times, considering injuries and drug related tragedies), and his #43 jersey (a number which he wore as a tribute to NASCAR's Richard Petty, and to this day Daugherty is very involved in racing) was retired by the Cavs March 1, 1997 (credit to wikipedia and basketball-reference.com for the information).

LeBron played in 30 more play-off games than Daugherty, lead the Cavs to an NBA Finals appearance (albeit a less than memorable one) and averaged 27.8 ppg in the regular season upped to 29.3 in the post-season. He scored nearly 5,000 more points than Brad Daugherty, made 6 All-Star Games, won Rookie of the Year, made two All-Defensive first teams, was an All-NBA second team selection twice and has made the All-NBA First team four times. Not to mention, he won two MVP's, played a much larger role on his team than Brad Daugherty (who in his best season shared All-NBA 3rd team honors with Mark Price, which is not discrediting either of them at all obviously, but maybe shows that they were not on LeBron's level talent wise) and was seen as the savior of a city that he was born in. With all of this being said, does he deserve to have his number retired by the Cavaliers. Probably. But, the reason he will not, and most likely should not is of course the way he left the Cavaliers. I very much think he had every right to leave, and I am much more sympathetic to LeBron than Dan Gilbert or fans who said they had eternal love for him and than turn into that guy who stalked Bjork (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAq5aZSnf1k), but any move he made that was not putting him back in Cleveland was going to cause outrage. Also, while Brad Daugherty never won as much as LeBron, and did not at all have his accolades in his career, the way he left forced him to walk out as a Cavalier and the Cleveland fans very much understood. LeBron's best years are still ahead of him really, and I do not think the Cavs will swallow that pill, and honestly, they should not have to.

The funniest thing about this though, is that while I am sure LeBron ultimately hoped to be remembered positively for his time tearing it up in Cleveland (and he will amongst people that do not have emotional ties to the city itself, or animosity over "The Decision", or just plain HATERS, lol) he has already given his opinion on the matter. He wants 23 to be retired for Michael Jordan, league wide. I think Hockey did it for Wayne Gretzky, and, well, sports copy each other. Michael Jordan won more and has much more of a global impact than Wayne Gretzky. Gretzky statiscally is matched by non in hockey, but Michael is the games All-Time leading scorer per game as well as per game in the play-offs. He set the standard of inidividual greatness in basketball by not only being flat out better than anyone he was playing against, but leading his team to levels that only he could take them too. LeBron wore that number for him, many others have as well, but it would be nice to see it retired as a gesture to someone who did as much for basketball as 99 did for hockey. Kids can still wear it in college (except NC, and other schools who may have retired it), high school, middle school, grade school, but the NBA should just send a tribute to Michael, it would be a nice gesture for David Stern, who I think owes a lot to Michael. LeBron being the most memorable 6 will probably be true to most people, but not to NBA fans who know of Bill Russell's 11 in 13. But, my final point is, what is in a number? Retiring a jersey is a showing of an organizations love of a certain player and their accomplishments, sometimes as much off the court as on. That is usually why players who switch teams midway usually have to wait a while to be given the honor, and it is a reason that Clevelands all-out animosity towards LeBron will hold them back from likely ever doing it. But, if Michael's 23 gets retired, it will be just one less awkward falling out from LeBron's time as a Cavalier.

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after what dan gilbert said

after what dan gilbert said about lebron... theres no chance his jersey goes up... maybe the heat will after they win a few championships tho...

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No. Thats foolish if they do

They should not he bailed after two sixty plus win season. He gave up on that team and city plain and simple. It is fine he moved on, but no way should they retire his number. Paul Peirce will have his number retired as a celtic. He was stabbed in the city he never left. He has been through horrible seasons and never left. Lebron bailed on them when they were good in his prime years. No way retire his number.

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wow i never thought about

wow i never thought about that but man i think they should because he did a lot for that city but then again i don't think they will

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r u guys serious???????

r u guys serious??????? hellll no they shouldnt!!!!!!!!!!

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If they don't that makes the

If they don't that makes the idea of Jersey retirement laughable. I mean, what are the requirements...He is BY FAR their best player they ever had.

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give it 10 years. Cooler

give it 10 years. Cooler heads will prevail and lebron will have matured. The cavs will never fully get over it, but they will move on and have new players and stars to root for. People will swallow theri pride remember the good things lebron did and give him his night in cleavland and retire his number.

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unfortunately Cleveland

unfortunately Cleveland doesn't understand that.

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spencer is hawesome is right

spencer is hawesome is right on the nail!!!!!!!!
cav fans r never gnna forget "the decision"

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Will the Raptors retire Vince

Will the Raptors retire Vince Carter's Jersey? NO then why would Lebron get his jersey retired

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@scottoant, how many mvps did

@scottoant, how many mvps did vince win? How many times did he lead cleavand to 60+ wins or the nba fainls? Vince was never on lebrons level.

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I can't believe you just

I can't believe you just compared LeBron to Carter.

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comparsion

wow i took a few shots from that post. I meant Cleveland fans feel the same way raptors fan felt(probably worse) when he left it was an example Lebron is a far better nba player but its not like Carter sucked.

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Carter has always

Carter has always sucked....in the playoffs.

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similar, although carter quit

similar, although carter quit on them over the course of like 2 years so by the time he actually left they couldnt stand him in toronto. Lebron was a sucker punch to the ribs from out of nowhere.

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Cooler heads won't prevail

They burned his jersey he was from there, and their team was not garbage. He is being retired a heat. He bailed, he did not believe in the team or oganization. He was not in the end of his NBA career. He quit on them. Its ok he moved on but he quit on them so no retiring of his jersey.

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Cooler heads won't prevail

They burned his jersey he was from there, and their team was not garbage. He is being retired a heat. He bailed, he did not believe in the team or oganization. He was not in the end of his NBA career. He quit on them. Its ok he moved on but he quit on them so no retiring of his jersey.

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I think they should. I think

I think they should. I think 5-10 years after LeBron retires?

I could see him coming back, aged and seeing the jersey retired. I think he will help Cleveland post retirement anyway.

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hahah

dam i never really thought about it. its a good question tho. i dont see alot of cleveland fans 4giving him rite now tho.

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Vince Carter

Vince Carter was a shamed talent... If he had the work ethic and desire of Kobe, he would've been considered as the same level with guys like LeBron, Wade and Kobe himself but he's old now and I think it's too late to change the way he perceive him to be... It's a damn shame because I really thought after that fantastic run in the 2001 EC Semis where he took the Raptors and almost made an upset over AI and the Sixers, I thought the Raptors would definitely get their spot in the East... With that said, in my heart and mind, I will always connect Vince Carter to the Raptors because he became the first player to put Toronto in the NBA map... (Sorry Damon...)

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Miami will

They were talking about this topic on ESPN radio lastnight I thought it was a good topic. If cleveland doesnt then Miami will, they retired Jordans jersey and he never even played for them. But I think they should but they probably wont like someone said as long as Gilbert is the owner it will never happen.

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You didn't know?

Michael is coming back, once again! You thought he retired the first time? Na. That second time he was done right? Na. Now, he is 99.9% retired? Well, Michael bet on those odds and is coming back to the Heat! Remember when the Blazers said, "We need a Center" and Bob Knight said "Play him at Center!" Well, the Heat finally are taking the General up on his statement. "At Center, From North Carolina, Number 24, MIIIIIICHAEL JOOOORDAN!" Yes, 23 hanging from the rafters, MJ comes back and just for insurance that he is the most competitive and angriest athlete of all time, he gives Kobe a nice slap in the face and takes all the lustre from his number! Kobe, beat the super team and catch Mike? Not if he has anything to say about it! He lets Charles look after the Bobcats while he shows who the real greatest player of all-time is. You say no way it is LeBron's team, well, no way it is Dwyane Wade's team with Mike jumping 5. Pat Riley is a GENIUS!!!!

On a serious note, no, this will not happen, but it would be wicked if it did. As much as Michael says he never would have played on a super team, I am sure he was aching for one on that last comeback. It could not have been much fun being the man on the Wizards fighting for the 8 spot. He traded Rip for Stack, still got no closer. I am sure he wishes he brought in Pau Gasol in for a workout with Kwame Brown and Tyson Chandler, would have made his life much easier. Michael is such a great competitor, and his level of dominance above any other player he played with is unsurpassed by anyone to ever play the game, which is why people retire his jersey even without him having played for their team, as a tribute. If Cleveland retires a 23, it should be Michael, they were one of his most memorable foes. From "the Shot" to his career high scoring game of 69 points and 18 rebounds which were also a career high, he was a memorable opponent in Cleveland who people just respected because he got the job done time and time again. With what LeBron accomplished, his number more than likely should be retired, but I think a players legacy in ties to the team is important, and in the eyes of Cleveland fans, whatever legacy LeBron is making will be made in Miami. That is why, most of you are correct, if LeBron wins championships for the Heat, you will see his number hanging in the rafters with D-Wade's #3 (and maybe Chris Bosh's 1 and possibly Shaq's 32, because the Diesel was integral in getting them that first ring). Retiring a players number has a lot to do with ones ties to the fans and the organization, and if their is bad blood, than unless it is forgiven over time, people will not want to see that persons name hanging from the rafters. LeBron was and most likely will be the best player to ever play for the Cavaliers, but he made a choice that unfortunately broke the hearts of the fans and organization. Chris Bosh having his number retired will more than likely leave a bad taste in peoples mouths, but LeBron will be the anti-hero in Cleveland, and to retire his number would probably be an act of forgiveness that those fans could just not stomach. It would be pretty amazing if they did, but I would say that people should just drop it. LeBron's first 7 years in the league have been matched by very few to ever play the game, and if the rest of his career gets him a number of championships, he should go down as one of the best to ever have played the game as well. I think talking already about retiring his number is a bigger slap in the face to Cleveland fans than even "the Decision" and that LeBron's legacy does NOT depend on what those fans think of him, as they will always feel bad that he left their team. To me, if he wins a number of championships, than he will be one of the best to have ever played in the NBA, but to Cleveland fans and many others, it will be the easy way out. Cleveland fans wanted LeBron to be more than Michael, I think many people did, and when he went to a situation that made it seem like he was just joining forces and stacking his team, than people were disappointed that he did not try and take a shot at out doing Michael. How could he? Honestly, at this point, Michael Jordan has a career that was written in a story book as far as NBA career's go, it would be insurmountable pressure that I do not think any single player could handle in the current NBA to surpass it.

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They HAVE To No Matter How

They HAVE To

No Matter How Bad "The Decision" was or how angry dan gilbert was at LeBron
LeBron Was The Best Player Of The Franchise!
He Led Them To The Playoffs Time and Time again! He Averaged
27.8ppg 7.0rpg 7.0apg for the Cavs!
If Somebody has that and you wont even retire his number?
Also, LeBron James is a Future HOF
The Cavaliers Have No Choice But To Retire LeBron James' number

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