wiggins vs muhammed
it seems to me that from what i watch and hear that these 2 players are very similar.both are freakishy athletic.Just wondering of the 2 who would you pick to be your franchise player.
Honestly it's too early to tell. Wiggins seems to be a better all around player and have more upside though they are both way too young and unproven. Both are really gifted physically but neither is a sure thing even though I wouldn't bet against em. I just feel let them prove themselves more at a higher level before we act like either are 8x NBA all stars.
I'd take Wiggins. And while Muhammad is athletic, by no means would I call him "freakishly athletic".
Both have unlimited potential but let's not buy into their hype until they play a college game, right now they were men amongst boys so let's wait and see
there is no way shabazz is even in his class athletically, and im on the record for thinking wiggins, parker and randle are leap and bounds better players and prospects then anyone in the 2012 high school class so i dont think they are similar in any way, i think shabazz is very very overrated and benefited from a very weak high school class, wiggins, parker and randle to me have all star type potential while shabazz looks to have good talent but not mind blowing type talent
shabazz hyped? we have all seen him play how can you say hes over hyped when his main concerns are passing the ball and makeing his off hand stronger. When kids are his age they have way worse problems and dont have the killer in them shabazz has.
You will eat those words for sure.shabazz dominated at his age and has been the number 1 shooting gaurd in his class since entering high school.
Im not going to say whos better that has yet to be seen on the ncaa or nba level. But overrated? come on now.
More people will think shabazz is overhyped after his freshman year at UCLA. He is an uptempo type of player that likes to run but UCLA's system does not fit him which is why guys like Russell Westbrook, jrue Holliday, and Darren Collison didn't put up big numbers. Add In the fact that the guy who will be their main ball handler Kyle''slow-mo'' Anderson plays SLOW hence the nickname, will cause him to underwhelm
No knock on Shabazz, but Wiggins is one of the best prospects of the last 15 years.
Both are great players but the potential of Wiggings is off the charts. With the physical tools he has he is able to dominate both sides of the court. The thing that Shabazz has going for him is that he is an absolute workhorse. He will out work every single player on the court, add that with his athleticism and skill set and he's not that far off of Wiggins.
I'd take neither as franchise players because to either have been proven. When you are more athletic than kids in H.S it's one thing but you have to see what they do against other athletic aplayers who are basically grown men once they get in college.
To me being the number one rated player at your position does not mean anything oj mayo and Kyle singler were rated higher then Derrick rose Comming out of high school and look at them, Brandon night for most of high school was rated above kyrie Irving at his position and look at whose better, and like I said this HS class is very very weak, Shabazz wouldn't even have been a top 5 prospect in the past 5 HS classes thats how far id go, hell Xavier Henry was a better prospect Comming out of HS, you say he will outwork everyone else on the court that works in HS and prolly HS but in the pros how far is that really gonna get him he's a avg size sg with good athletic ability not great he doesn't jump out the gym, very long and decent speed but he doesn't wow me athletically, he can't shoot and doesnt pass so your potentially lookin at a bigger rodney stucky type player who will bully opposing guards hopefully and get the ft line, i don't see that kid being a star or all star on the nba level but could be a starter but I think that's the high for him
You're point could be the same for wiggins. In two years someone else could be better than him. It works both ways
Wiggins maybe be better but Shabazz is not overrated. Mark my words this kid will do his thing at UCLA... might even flatout dominate and He will be top 3 draft pick.
The UCLA system is too slow paced for him to dominate. But UCLA is known for making average college players into good nba players. Im interested in seeing how Slo-mo Kyle Anderson and Shabbazz fit. Shabbazz is too hard of a worker to not be great. I think Wiggins has definately more potential though.
Shabbazz jumper weak compared to Wiggins..both good players though..
When you evaluate athleticism you have to look at how much they actually elevate and explode. Shabazz Muhammad dunks a lot by virtue of his agression, quickness, and length. He doesn't actually get up all that high.
A more instinctual James Harden is the best comparison. I'm not sure James Harden will ever become a #1 option, but I can definitely see Muhammad developing into a franchise player.
I really dont understand the Harden comparisons at all other than that they are Left handed. Harden is a finesse european-style player who is to me Ginobili 2.0. While Shabbazz is a beast a guy that attacks the bucket with a vengeance and runs the court and guns. Hardens number one strength(ball handling) is Shabbazz's number one weakness.
I agree. The only thing Muhammed and Harden have in common are their body types and the fact that they are both left handed. Muhammed is known for being far too left hand dominant and a pretty poor ball handler all around (NBA skilll wise) and Harden is known as a very good ball handler for the 2 guard, often fasicilitating the OKC offense. Harden is also a very good passer and this is something Muhammed must clearly work at as well. Right know, it appears Muhammed is not the same level athlete that Harden is, however watching Harden in college, his altheticisim seems to have definately improved from 3-4 years ago and this could also happen to Muhammed with all the hard work he puts into his game. Muhammed does appear to be shaping up as the better defender of the two because of his competitive drive. Harden is a good shooter now and it appears Muhammed will be eventually as well.
Bottom line is I would not bet against Muhammed to be a very good player in the league just as I would not bet against MKG eventually becoming very good in the league. I think that comparison is actually a much better one then the Harden comparison.