[Chriscdrake_3Participant]

I have heard numerous comparison some to me that are crazy (Corey brewer). I’m a big wiggins fan please give me a reasonable comparison 

 

 

[TONYDABOSS77Participant]

Can’t really call any comparison crazy for real. Comparisons are gonna range from great players to disappointing players because he’s had flashes of being absolutely dominant & he’s shown flashes of just being a role player. 

[TONYDABOSS77Participant]

Can’t really call any comparison crazy for real. Comparisons are gonna range from great players to disappointing players because he’s had flashes of being absolutely dominant & he’s shown flashes of just being a role player. 

[Ebown5Participant]

 The best one that I can come up with is Julius Erving.

[Ebown5Participant]

 The best one that I can come up with is Julius Erving.

[LitteringAnd…Participant]

Somewhere in the Wilkins/DeRozan/Rudy Gay range. I think Wilkins is his ceiling but to me he looks like Rudy without the poor shot selection and the potential to be an elite wing defender (he’s already very good). His ‘lack of asertiveness’ which people have bemoaned all year is actually one of the reasons I’m excited abot him. He was clearly given a role at Kansas and he stuck to it – I think he’s likely very coachable and this indicates he wont waste his potential al la Gay by becoming an undisciplined chucker (in fairness Gay has gotten better this season). 

Like DeRozan/Gay, as Wiggins comes into the league the main concern is his ability to create offence for himself, but I think he’ll listen to people and not end up like Rudy doing al those stupid little sidways-one-bounce-dribbles and lauching long twos; I think he can be efficient and play in a team. 

He’s actually a pretty solid shooter too, and better than DeRozan was when he came ino the league (Demar looks pretty decent now) so I think he can work on his shooting and shot-creating.

To me he’s the perfect ‘upside’ prospect: long, athletic, solid and developing skill-set, and most of all, coachable. 

 

 

 

  

[LitteringAnd…Participant]

Somewhere in the Wilkins/DeRozan/Rudy Gay range. I think Wilkins is his ceiling but to me he looks like Rudy without the poor shot selection and the potential to be an elite wing defender (he’s already very good). His ‘lack of asertiveness’ which people have bemoaned all year is actually one of the reasons I’m excited abot him. He was clearly given a role at Kansas and he stuck to it – I think he’s likely very coachable and this indicates he wont waste his potential al la Gay by becoming an undisciplined chucker (in fairness Gay has gotten better this season). 

Like DeRozan/Gay, as Wiggins comes into the league the main concern is his ability to create offence for himself, but I think he’ll listen to people and not end up like Rudy doing al those stupid little sidways-one-bounce-dribbles and lauching long twos; I think he can be efficient and play in a team. 

He’s actually a pretty solid shooter too, and better than DeRozan was when he came ino the league (Demar looks pretty decent now) so I think he can work on his shooting and shot-creating.

To me he’s the perfect ‘upside’ prospect: long, athletic, solid and developing skill-set, and most of all, coachable. 

 

 

 

  

[TONYDABOSS77Participant]

I think he’ll eventually develop into an allstar regardless. As with a lot of players though, the environment & team he’s brought into will determine which Wiggins we’ll see & how fast he develops.

If he lands in a spot like Philly or Utah, where they have a stable PG & facilitator. I think he’ll be a lot more consistent early on than most people think & he could possibly avg atleast 16 or 17 points a game. 

If he lands on a team like the Bucks or Lakers, where there’s not any real consistency. I think we could see he him go for 30 one night & single digits the next. Although, I think his impact will go far beyond scoring because of his potential as a defender.

If he lands on the Magic, I think he could be inconsistent too, but I think he & Oladipo could steal a few W’s just based on their defense & athleticism.

But, what if a team that barely got in the lottery (Suns?) won the top pick like the Bulls back in 08? I think he’d really prosper on a team like that where they have two really good combo guards & they have nice spacing. Plus, with their pace, he won’t have to create much in the half court.

I also think him playing some at the 2 spot will benefit him since there’s not really a consensus top guy at that spot (Wade’s aging, Harden sucks on D, Beal still rising). I also think he’ll continue to get his easy buckets (put backs, lobs, fastbreaks, backdoor cuts, open 3’s), which would ease his transition.

 

 

[TONYDABOSS77Participant]

I think he’ll eventually develop into an allstar regardless. As with a lot of players though, the environment & team he’s brought into will determine which Wiggins we’ll see & how fast he develops.

If he lands in a spot like Philly or Utah, where they have a stable PG & facilitator. I think he’ll be a lot more consistent early on than most people think & he could possibly avg atleast 16 or 17 points a game. 

If he lands on a team like the Bucks or Lakers, where there’s not any real consistency. I think we could see he him go for 30 one night & single digits the next. Although, I think his impact will go far beyond scoring because of his potential as a defender.

If he lands on the Magic, I think he could be inconsistent too, but I think he & Oladipo could steal a few W’s just based on their defense & athleticism.

But, what if a team that barely got in the lottery (Suns?) won the top pick like the Bulls back in 08? I think he’d really prosper on a team like that where they have two really good combo guards & they have nice spacing. Plus, with their pace, he won’t have to create much in the half court.

I also think him playing some at the 2 spot will benefit him since there’s not really a consensus top guy at that spot (Wade’s aging, Harden sucks on D, Beal still rising). I also think he’ll continue to get his easy buckets (put backs, lobs, fastbreaks, backdoor cuts, open 3’s), which would ease his transition.

 

 

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 I think the lack of assertiveness label will disappear once his nba coach makes it clear to him he’s the franchise and runs an entire offense thru him. 

 

Remember people thought Lamarcus Aldridge was too passive?

Derrick rose 1st season and a half Chicago media thought he was submitting too much to john salmons and drew gooden. Think he’s passive now?

Wiggins will be fine in the nba which is more of a 1 on 1 league.

some guys are just better pros than collegiate acollegiate a

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 I think the lack of assertiveness label will disappear once his nba coach makes it clear to him he’s the franchise and runs an entire offense thru him. 

 

Remember people thought Lamarcus Aldridge was too passive?

Derrick rose 1st season and a half Chicago media thought he was submitting too much to john salmons and drew gooden. Think he’s passive now?

Wiggins will be fine in the nba which is more of a 1 on 1 league.

some guys are just better pros than collegiate acollegiate a

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Vince Carter without the selfishness, crazy athleticism with a developing 3 point shot

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Vince Carter without the selfishness, crazy athleticism with a developing 3 point shot

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 Sean Elliott is who he reminds me of.

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 Sean Elliott is who he reminds me of.

[HomerKangParticipant]

 T-Mac to me.

[HomerKangParticipant]

 T-Mac to me.

[cjwParticipant]

 Rudy Gay with a ceiling of LeBron and Floor of Jamario Moon

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

 Seriously? Jamario Moon? The guy was out of the league in like 4 years, he can’t possibly go that low.

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

 Seriously? Jamario Moon? The guy was out of the league in like 4 years, he can’t possibly go that low.

[strobox88Participant]

 Ceiling of Lebron? lmao Has Lebron even reached a ceiling yet? 

[strobox88Participant]

 Ceiling of Lebron? lmao Has Lebron even reached a ceiling yet? 

[cjwParticipant]

 Rudy Gay with a ceiling of LeBron and Floor of Jamario Moon

[Land of GrantParticipant]

Jamario Moon was one of the all-time cool names wasted on a forgettable player.

My Wiggins comp: Julius Erving with a more modern game (3 pt shot, less grace, less control, shorter afro, more D). 

That sounds like I’m hyping Wiggins, I’m not, Erving’s stardom came from being by far the top athletic specimen in all respects, now, everyone is athletic, so, while Wiggins and Doctor J are similar athletically, Wiggins’ advantage will be less pronounced.

 

 

[Land of GrantParticipant]

Jamario Moon was one of the all-time cool names wasted on a forgettable player.

My Wiggins comp: Julius Erving with a more modern game (3 pt shot, less grace, less control, shorter afro, more D). 

That sounds like I’m hyping Wiggins, I’m not, Erving’s stardom came from being by far the top athletic specimen in all respects, now, everyone is athletic, so, while Wiggins and Doctor J are similar athletically, Wiggins’ advantage will be less pronounced.

 

 

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Grant Hills athleticism, rebounding but not the passing instinct of Grant Hill. Grant Hill LITE.More athletic Harrison Barnes.

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Grant Hills athleticism, rebounding but not the passing instinct of Grant Hill. Grant Hill LITE.More athletic Harrison Barnes.

[jwall1Participant]

Better version of Rudy Gay is his ceiling IMO

[jwall1Participant]

Better version of Rudy Gay is his ceiling IMO

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 This topic is kind of old.  Since Rudy Gay gets brought up a lot, I figured I’d pull Rudy’s college numbers up to compare.

 

Wiggins: 32.8mpg 17.1ppg 5.9rpg 1.5apg 1.2spg 1.0bpg .448fg% .341 3p% .775ft%

Gay: 30.8mpg 15.2ppg 6.4rpg 2.1apg 1.8spg 1.6bpg .461fg% .318 3p% .732ft%  (Gay’s soph year)

 

 

So, statistically they are very similar.  In terms of size, they are very close as well.  Gay may have an inch on him, and probably a little bit of length (evident by the blocks and steals).  Wiggins, however, is more athletically gifted.

 

Gay seems like a reasonable comparison.  I also think he’s got some Dominique in him.  But in reality, comparisons don’t really matter.  What matters is do you produce?  I think Wiggins will be a very good pro.  A couple things I’d like to see him really work on are his handles, and his mid-range game.  If he can hone both those in, he’ll be a superstar.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 This topic is kind of old.  Since Rudy Gay gets brought up a lot, I figured I’d pull Rudy’s college numbers up to compare.

 

Wiggins: 32.8mpg 17.1ppg 5.9rpg 1.5apg 1.2spg 1.0bpg .448fg% .341 3p% .775ft%

Gay: 30.8mpg 15.2ppg 6.4rpg 2.1apg 1.8spg 1.6bpg .461fg% .318 3p% .732ft%  (Gay’s soph year)

 

 

So, statistically they are very similar.  In terms of size, they are very close as well.  Gay may have an inch on him, and probably a little bit of length (evident by the blocks and steals).  Wiggins, however, is more athletically gifted.

 

Gay seems like a reasonable comparison.  I also think he’s got some Dominique in him.  But in reality, comparisons don’t really matter.  What matters is do you produce?  I think Wiggins will be a very good pro.  A couple things I’d like to see him really work on are his handles, and his mid-range game.  If he can hone both those in, he’ll be a superstar.

[joecheck88Participant]

Wiggins also got to the line over 2 more times per game. He plays a more controlled game than Rudy Gay ever has. He’s more similar to Paul George in my mind. I’ve always liked the Dominique comparison. Think he will be more of a guy that scores inside the 3 point line and attacks with his quick first step and athleticism. Also should be a factor in the post as a 2 guard which is where I would play him for his first few years.  I don’t think he is a guy that needs a sick handle to get 20 a game. Though if he developed a decent handle it would make him that much better. 

[joecheck88Participant]

Wiggins also got to the line over 2 more times per game. He plays a more controlled game than Rudy Gay ever has. He’s more similar to Paul George in my mind. I’ve always liked the Dominique comparison. Think he will be more of a guy that scores inside the 3 point line and attacks with his quick first step and athleticism. Also should be a factor in the post as a 2 guard which is where I would play him for his first few years.  I don’t think he is a guy that needs a sick handle to get 20 a game. Though if he developed a decent handle it would make him that much better. 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

Couple things about that comparison:

1. Wiggins was a freshman. Gay was a Sophomore. Imagine if Wiggins had another year to figure it out. In fact, at the end of his freshman year, he started to put it together more.

2. Like was mentioned above, Wiggins got the line 2 more times a game as a freshman as Gay did as a sophomore. There is something to be said about that stat. It might indicate that Wiggins is much more aggressive than we thought. He averaged more free throws than Jabari Parker and one less than Marcus Smart, whose speciality is getting to the free throw line.

[joecheck88Participant]

 I agree. I think the aggressiveness issue is overblown. The man got to the line 6.5 times per game. He plays aggressively. Could it be more aggressive? Sure. He had a 19 FT game I believe and while that is the extreme I think he could’ve gotten there a few more times a game but that isn’t worrisome to me. 

I think tightening his handle and getting that jumper real solid will open up the line more for him. He also needs to work on finishing at the rim with contact. Saw him miss quite a few contact Layups this year. Many times looked like he didn’t know whether to try and dunk or lay it up. He’s still figuring out this playing with better athletes and bigger stronger guys but I expect to see him improve every 20-30 games his rookie year and every year in the league. 

Think his game needs polishing more than improving. He will get better at all those things with just PT in the nba. I stand firm that he is a can’t miss prospect. I can’t see him busting unless you call 20ppg 6rpg a bust because I believe that is his floor. 

[joecheck88Participant]

 I agree. I think the aggressiveness issue is overblown. The man got to the line 6.5 times per game. He plays aggressively. Could it be more aggressive? Sure. He had a 19 FT game I believe and while that is the extreme I think he could’ve gotten there a few more times a game but that isn’t worrisome to me. 

I think tightening his handle and getting that jumper real solid will open up the line more for him. He also needs to work on finishing at the rim with contact. Saw him miss quite a few contact Layups this year. Many times looked like he didn’t know whether to try and dunk or lay it up. He’s still figuring out this playing with better athletes and bigger stronger guys but I expect to see him improve every 20-30 games his rookie year and every year in the league. 

Think his game needs polishing more than improving. He will get better at all those things with just PT in the nba. I stand firm that he is a can’t miss prospect. I can’t see him busting unless you call 20ppg 6rpg a bust because I believe that is his floor. 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

Couple things about that comparison:

1. Wiggins was a freshman. Gay was a Sophomore. Imagine if Wiggins had another year to figure it out. In fact, at the end of his freshman year, he started to put it together more.

2. Like was mentioned above, Wiggins got the line 2 more times a game as a freshman as Gay did as a sophomore. There is something to be said about that stat. It might indicate that Wiggins is much more aggressive than we thought. He averaged more free throws than Jabari Parker and one less than Marcus Smart, whose speciality is getting to the free throw line.

[tuck243Participant]

 I’m still mad this site posted Gay as a comparison without giving me my proper credit…  I was the first to say Gay and got negged for it…  Now it’s a "common" comparison…   Lol

[tuck243Participant]

 I’m still mad this site posted Gay as a comparison without giving me my proper credit…  I was the first to say Gay and got negged for it…  Now it’s a "common" comparison…   Lol

[max23Participant]

 Depends how long you are willing to wait…he wont be a consistent first option until he improves his handle and finishing ability a lot,while continuing improving jump shot which has looked better as his college season went on.Whenever first 2 happen,he reminds me of possible Dominique Wilkins.The problem is there Is also a possibility he never improves those things dramatically,the fact hes athletic doesnt mean for sure he’lll improve those things.Until those 2 things are improved,hes nobodys franchise,more like an athletic 3rd -4th option.

As far as defense,he has first team all defense potential.

[max23Participant]

 Depends how long you are willing to wait…he wont be a consistent first option until he improves his handle and finishing ability a lot,while continuing improving jump shot which has looked better as his college season went on.Whenever first 2 happen,he reminds me of possible Dominique Wilkins.The problem is there Is also a possibility he never improves those things dramatically,the fact hes athletic doesnt mean for sure he’lll improve those things.Until those 2 things are improved,hes nobodys franchise,more like an athletic 3rd -4th option.

As far as defense,he has first team all defense potential.

[strobox88Participant]

 Wiggin’s athleticism is deceiving.  There are always crazy athletic guys coming from college every year.  The NBA is full of athletic players.  He’ll have to develop other parts of his game if he wants to standout above his competition and prolong his NBA career because father time will surely catch up with his elite athleticism.

[strobox88Participant]

 Wiggin’s athleticism is deceiving.  There are always crazy athletic guys coming from college every year.  The NBA is full of athletic players.  He’ll have to develop other parts of his game if he wants to standout above his competition and prolong his NBA career because father time will surely catch up with his elite athleticism.

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