Why would the Clippers and Warriors trade for Chris Paul
Clippers- they are a Small Forward away from contention, Eric Bledsoe should be given the keys to the ship and he is not as good as Paul I'm not saying that but him and Eric Gordan would become an elite backcourt together and cost the same as Paul combined in the future. Griffin and Jordan are the most athletic back court in the league and should be kept together. Now they have a sure fire top 5 pick next year, the Wolves are gonna suck as usual they have no perimeter scoring or defense, Rubio is still a question mark they got no Center, so the Clippers should draft Harrison Barnes and have a cost-efficient team
Bledsoe-Gordon-Barnes-Griffin-Jordan would be so damn good together they compliment eachother well and would be a great team for a guy like D'Antoni to coach since he might not be the coach of the Knicks starting in 2012, getting Chris Paul would most likely mean giving up Gordon, Jordan, Bledsoe and that Minnesota 1st meaning they'd have Paul-Griffin and 3 other guys and no Dwight Howard isnt coming to the Clippers he wants the Lakers so bad, so if Paul excepts to go there I think its a mistake in his part and if the Clippers trad 4 potential great players for Paul then their setting themselves back
Warriors- This team has so much depth and can make some great moves to be elite, start by trading Monta to Philadelphia for Igoudala, amnesty Biedrins and try and sign Tyson Chandler. Trading for Paul means losing Curry, Thompson, Udoh and at least a 1st rounder. Now if they keep the team the way it is then you they go
Curry and Thompson at the guards both sharpshooting guards with great strokes, at the forwards they got Igoudala and Lee, Iggy a great defender and glue guy and Lee a solid 4 man solid rebounder he's over paid but still effective and in the middle Chandler his game speaks for itself and would give this team something they've been lacking for a while. Off the bench they got a solid rookie PG in Charles Jenkins, a sharpshooting 3 in Wright who can split time with Thompson and Igoudala and 2 young bigs in Udoh and Tyler, this team will be better defensively with the Chandler and Igoudala additions and also more well rounded with Wright off the bench as a scorer
I feel both of these teams are better off without Paul and also feel the Hornets should ship him East anyway at the end of the day with or without him they'll be mediocre and they need to start over completely it starts with creating some financial flexibility.
if you have to gut your team to a SuperStar you will be 2-3 years from contending anyway. CP would cost both of these teams a ton if they have to give up Gordon for the Clipps or Curry for the Warriors.
because he is (arguably) the best PG in the NBA...?
"Griffin and Jordan are the most athletic back court in the league and should be kept together."
So Griffin is the PG and Jordan is the SG? I think you mean front court...
And they should trade for Chris Paul because Bledsoe isn't half the player Paul is... A trio of Paul/Gordon/Griffin is deadly. Also, if they keep Jordan, they have a tremendous defensive presence in the middle. They have the pieces to acquire Paul and definitely should pull the trigger.
the clippers are not a small forward away the clippers are a trigger man away. If they can exclude Gordon from the deal they will be deadly. However i wouldn't be mad if they chose to keep that Minnesota pick and draft any small forward not named Barnes.
Thank you for making that correction about the front/back court, that was really bugging me.. But i think clips are just trying to make a splash and keep cp3 out of the lakers locker room
Clippers: Bledsoe is a great backup. Not a great starter. He did well in spurts as the Clippers starting PG when Davis went down with injury. He started out sizzling but after about 2 or 3 weeks he started to fizzle out and provided good moments every now and then. Trust me, I had him on my fantasy team last year. I kept him for about 2-3 weeks then I dropped him because he started to fizzle out and it wasn't worth keeping him. In short Bledsoe is good for the short term, Paul is good for the long term, which would you rather have? Paul, obviously. I'd say the Clippers are a SF and PG away from being great.
Warriors: Curry is great, but he's not a great passer. If the Warriors want to make the playoffs this year, which they do according to new coach Marc Jackson, than they will need to get more assists per game from their starting PG. Last year Curry averaged 5 assists per game, the year before that (his rookie year) he averaged 6. He might go for 7 this year, just to help the Warriors make the playoffs, but regardless, it will be hard to make the playoffs in the West with a 7 assists per game PG, especially if that's one of the important positions in the NBA. Yes, they need to focus on getting a Center more than a PG but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to get a 10 assists per game PG like Paul is.
"Curry is great, but he's not a great passer."
Curry is an exceptional passer. He's still getting used to playing the point guard position, but his passing skill is nothing short of amazing.
"it will be hard to make the playoffs in the West with a 7 assists per game PG"
The Spurs, Lakers, Blazers, Grizzlies and Mavericks disagree with you.
"He started out sizzling but after about 2 or 3 weeks he started to fizzle out and provided good moments every now and then. Trust me, I had him on my fantasy team last year."
This is a joke. We're talking about a 20/21 year old rookie point guard here, of course he's going to be inconsistent. Fantasy basketball has absolutely no relevance when it comes to winning in the NBA. None.
Because If NO accepts the proposed Aminu, Bledsoe, Min 2012 1st deal, then the Clips could trade Jordan and Gordon to Orlando for Dwight. Why wouldn't Paul resign to play with the two most exciting and athletic big men in the league?
Imagine a trio of Paul, Griffin and Howard. I like that more than Lebron, Wade and Bosh anyday of the week.
wardb12 why are you on these boards. please leave
Nobody needs to leave.
I see your point wardb, just disagree with those particular arguments.
Is Stephen Curry really an amazing passer? I haven't seen him play in long time, but I find that hard to believe.
I was a huge skeptic of Stephen Curry at the point guard position a few years ago and I've done a full 180. He's a creative, intelligent and crafty passer with great court vision.
I don't like being wrong, but I was 100% wrong about Curry. The man can pass, and I'm convinced he's going to be a special player.
Quick YouTube search came up with the following.
Stephen Curry is fundamentally sound and has good vision. He's a crafty passer.
However, I wouldn't call him an "amazing" passer though. The word "amazing" is only for guys like Paul, Nash, Williams, Rondo, LeBron, etc.
What do you think is holding him back from being an amazing passer?
Is that just a term that you reserve for the very, very best in a particular category?
My bad on the frontcourt backcourt thing I was typing fast
New Orleans wont accept a deal with Gordon fool, so that leaves them with No 2 guard, no 1st round pick, and most likely losing Jordan also
Curry is what 22 years old he's their PG why would you trade a future all star who's under cost control when you can just do what i said and build a great team around him instead of gutting your roster
Bledsoe is a servicable PG, he just is behind proven vets give him the keys and you'll see how good he can be if I'm the Clippers I'm doing 1 of 2 things either drafting Barnes with the Minnesota pick or trading Jordan to Boston for Green and drafting Drummond either way I got a young team ready to take over this league for 10 years instead of 5
If Paul is willing to sign an extention with the Warriors, I would trade Curry for Paul in a heartbeat.
Paul is a game changer, leader, makes everyone better. One of the top 3 PGs in the league.
Curry is smooth, love his jumpers, and it amazes me when he scores, but right now he is not a future all star, he is a borderline all star.
A lineup of Paul, Ellis, Dorell Wright, Lee, and whatever C, is pretty nice.
The Clippers have a roster full of young talented players. Basketball is a game that takes time to build a team that can contend on a consistant basis. If I was running the Clippers I'd stay the course with my salary cap money and my draft picks and young players and play for the long haul versus trying to build a team Miami's way.
curry is a very good passer, but not amazing. amazing IN THE NBA is a very short selection. the best passers make passess no one else think will work or doesn't see them. like nash <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7aWh7YzceqY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
sorry this is the right one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aWh7YzceqY&feature=fvst
Look I want him to go to the Knicks but in all honesty if we had Curry, Anthony and Stoudemire I would push for Paul its rare you find a potential all star at the Point Guard spot who's under your control for at least 5-7 more years, GSW should keep what they have as well as the Clippers and Lakers and everyone but the Knicks or Magic but thats just my opinion