Why won't the teams just do this simple trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine - GS and Philly should really just trade Udoh and Ellis for Igodala along with swapping picks this year. Andre is a better player than Ellis, but Udoh and the pick swap make up the difference. Philly gets the shot creator they need, while Jrue can cover twos and Ellis can cover 1s, with Turner moving to the starting 3. Udoh can then be developed as the 4 or 5 of the future and is already an impact defensive player now. GS gets the beginnings of being re-made into an athletic defensive club with Curry, Igo, the improving Wright, Lee, and, hopefully, Biedrins bouncing back. If Biedrins doesn't bounce back, GS has a picks with which to aim for guys like Markief Morris or Vuvecic to help out in the middle. Sure, Lee is still week at the 4, but they could make up for that elsehwere, and his rebounds could allow Wright, Igo and Curry to run effectively.
Am I insane? Doesn't this make more sense for both clubs than the various Kaman or #2 deals? And if not, why not?
You posted the trade machine thing wrong.
I personally do not see why Golden State wouldn't do this. The reason I think Philly wouldn't, is because they don't need wings. They want to be able to play Turner at the SG position, the same position that Monta plays.
Evan Turner or Jrue Holiday would lose their starting spot, that's not what Philly wants. They want these two to grow without anybody in their way.
Also, while they can play Turner at SF, he would be better suited as a SG. An oversized SG. That way, they can have more size if they decide to ever move Thaddeus Young to play small forward.
Why couldn't Turner start at the 3? He's 6'7, isn't he?
Turner could start at the three but they would never be able to play Thaddeus Young at the small forward.
(I edited my previous post, I somehow knew you'd say that lmao)
everything i have read says philly would want a competition for the starting 3 spot between Evan Turner and thad, while its likely Evan would get the nod, considering thad was 3rd in running for 6th man of the yr, and provides instant spark off the pine.. (assuming iggy gets moved, which he will)
I really like the trade for both teams. I do think Turner could start at the 3 and be a good defender and mid range jump shooter. Jrue Holiday can guard 2's well. Monta can stick to PG's. The reason I like it for Philly is because the lack a go to scorer. A guy that can get 25 per game. Monta would provide that and Philly would still be a good defensive team.
GS makes sense for Iggy because they have shooters and a running style offense where Iggy would thrive. Plus, he gives them great defensive ability at the 2. GS would push for a playoff spot.
With the trade, both teams would not be championship contenders. It would make both teams better though and help the careers of both Monta and Iggy.
This isn't a crazy trade, but from what the Warriors have said they will want more for Ellis than just Iggy, so the Warriors would likely keep Udoh and demand that the 6ers add someone.
As arguably the best wing defender in the league, an excellent defender and solid 2nd or 3rd option, I believe Iggy is definitely worth of Monta straight up. Unfortunately, in this league, a player like Iggy is perpetually undervalued, and any team will get greedy when it comes to a guy like Ellis who averages 24.1 points and 5.6 assists but prefers to swipe at the ball on defense rather than buckle down, which hurts his team terribly when you consider that he's almost always overmatched at SG.