why is thomas robinson dropping?
he's kinda raw, sure. but are there really five players better than him in this year's draft--regardless of who else comes out? i take him over harrison barnes and arnett moultrie all day long--better athlete, better motor and i believe better upside, too. i do think he's slightly undersized for the four in the nba and therefore may not be as physically dominant as he is in college, but still. i just don't see a guy with his combination of athleticism, heart and motor being a bust. he's not exactly kenneth faried terrorizing mid-major teams as a 6' 8" center. this is a guy playing on a top level team in a top level conference. just curious as why he might have dropped from 4 or 5 to 10th in the latest mock. i'm a pistons fan and unless detroit gets the 1st or 2nd pick (where you pretty much have to take anthony davis or andre drummond), i take thomas robinson at any other draft position. he's the ideal complement to greg monroe's plodding, floor bound "style" and both guys' games should fit together hand-in-glove...
Greg Monroe at the center position they deff would compliment each other and that would be a team with a meannn front court... I was also wondering why his draft spot dropped from being the 5th pick in the last mock draft to 10th i know they say hes raw but puts up numbers has a very solid all around game veryy strong and can jump
I think this week's mock draft is pretty irrelevant until the games start tomorrow. Many players draft stock is directly impacted by their play in the NCAA tournament, and Thomas Robinson played okay and didn't play great the last 3 or 4 games of the season. Moultie kinda slumped down the stretch too, but I'm assuming his jump is due to his 34 point performance in the NIT.
KU isn't a very deep team this year and if they make an early exit, I feel Robinson's stock will be down until the combine gives him another chance to prove himself. If he is dominant like he was, much of the season averaging over 20 and 12 and KU makes a Sweet 16 or Elite 8, I feel his stock will go back up.
Regardless, I don't feel he slips out of the top 10 unless he gets injured. He was playing like a top 5 pick much of the year, but he has had a string of average games ( still 19p and 10r and 15 and 9, but when you're putting up stretches of 22p and 13r that is still a slump.) I get why he's dropped a bit, I just don't think it will last, unless KU gets bounced. He gets to match up against Eli Holman Friday, who has had a bad year, but the guy definately has NBA size.
I do think he'd be a great fit in Detroit, they wanted Tristan Thompson and Bismack for rebounding and toughness and I feel Robinson is a better player than both of them.
The amazing thing about Trob is the fact that, as Joe Wolf mentioned Kansas is so thin that he has put up those rebounding numbers while be cautious on defense. Offensivly he is still quite raw, his jumper is developing but not to where he can count on it. The Morris twins were drafted in the teens in a weak draft and they were far more polished than Trob. This is also a heavy PF draft. P. Jones, Moutrie, Sully might all go before him and that's not counting Drummond or Davis and not every lottery team needs a PF. I think he will end up somewhere between 5-10 when all is said and done.
He is mean, does have a great motor, great body and I think will be a good not great NBA player. Agreed Detroit would be a nice destination for him.
yea i agree i also don't understand why he dropped here while almost every other mock has him lock at top5..
this guy is really going to be something like Millsap if not even better..his improvements shooting wise is nice, he also surprised me with the improvements in his back to the basket game and knowing that he will come and already will be one of the quickest bigs his post game will improve in years and will be much much more valuable..also one area what people underrates is that he is arguably the best or at least top3 playmaking big in this draft..besides that he has everything except 6'11 height..strength, overall athleticism, work ethic, motor, toughness everything is there
Robinson isnt a skilled player,he's more of an energy,hustle guy and he doesnt have a high basket IQ....Even though he's had a great season,scouts dont think he has much upside..But they do feel he has the talent to average double digits in rebounds in a few years...
Scouts see him as a Kris Humphies type of player at the next level...And Humphies struggled his 1st couple of years ,before finally finding his niche and becoming a bigtime rebounder at New Jersey...
Expect Robinson to go in the 8 to 15 range..
yeah.. im not saying he will be THAT good but after freshman season Blake also looked like "just an energy guy"..
he isn't raw, he has pretty complete game he is just work in progress, despite being a junior he has less experience as a leader than some of freshmen and he did pretty good job accepting that role..
I could be wrong but I don't have him as a top 5 player in this draft. He will have to prove it cause all I see is a strong athelete. Not a pass in the low block get me buckets player in the L.
The fact he's improved so much, even from the beginning of the season, makes me think he'll continue to do so. This is a guy who improved his FT % by almost 20% since last year. Since the beginning of the season, he's learned to take his time on the low block, handle double teams and pass out of them.
He's not just a leaper, but he's not the most polished guy in the world either. He stays on the court by not committing stupid fouls, he has nice footwork and can execute quick spins to get open and where his shooting lacks he really has a nice handle/ first step for a big man . Robinson isn't a finished product, but he's a lot more than a guy who just out muscles guys for rebounds.
He's also not so raw that it's unfathomable that he'll become a solid shooter or possess a well balanced post game. He has all the right foundation after being the #1 offensive option for his college team and working with Danny Manning and 3 lottery picks for the past three seasons. It's up to him to continue to expand his game in the pro's, but for a guy who has improved SO much as a collegiate player, his work ethic and continued development wouldn't worry me too much. I'm confident he will.
Where Robinson goes will depend alot on who comes out...
Ya you can't really pay much attention to the mock drafts until the season is over, we know who has declared, and we have a draft order. Nah he probably shouldn't have dropped to ten but it doesn't matter if he drops until draft night
"Robinson isnt a skilled player,he's more of an energy,hustle guy and he doesnt have a high basket IQ"
"this guy is really going to be something like Millsap"