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Why it sucks to be a Kings fan

The Kings cannot catch a break.

I know I know I'm going to hear "OMG U GOT TYREKE EVANS STOP CRYING".

We had to make our own luck with that pick.

Last year Kings had the best chance at winning the lottery and of course ended up with the worst pick they could possible get, 4.

This year there are 4 players that would fit the Kings good. Now, thanks to the lottery, the Kings who should have picked 3 dropped to the 2nd lowest pick possible (5). Now, onced again, we have to hope that our guy falls to us as opposed to simply being able to take him without worry.

John Wall, no chance of being there. Evan Turner, no chance of being there. Derrick Favors, very small chance of being there (I expect NJ to take him), and that leaves us with the final guy in the top-4 that would fit the Kings good: Demarcus Cousins.

It's going to be a tease all the way up to the draft: What is Minnesota going to do? Are they going to take Cousins? It's pretty obvious after last year that they are going to do what they want regardless of hype and what people think.. They're two biggest needs will be the 2 positions available-- A true center (Cousins) or a 3 (Wes Johnson).. It also wouldn't be out of the realm of possiblity for them to take a guy like Aminu.

I'm going to assume they are going to take Cousins, and I assume the majority of T'Wolves fans feel the same way.

This leaves the Kings in an annoying pickle. This was the year we were supposed to get our robin to Evans' batman. We were supposed to get that guy who was going to take pressure off of him offensively and be a solid defender. With a top-4 pick that was going to happen... Not so much anymore.

We will be left with, assuming we stay put: Wes Johnson, Al-Farouq Aminu, Cole Aldrich, Greg Monroe, Patrick Patterson, Donatas Montiejunas, and Xavier Henry. I honestly have no idea which one of these players I want more.

I believe Wes Johnson is the BPA, but the Kings position they're probably most set at is SF. I really believe after watching Casspi in the 1st half of the year that he is the future starter for this team and Greene will develop into a very good role player off the bench.

Also, how much better is Wes Johnson than Aminu? I haven't seen much of Aminu but from what I read and the fact that he is a few years younger would he be worth the pick over Wes?

Cole Aldrich entices me as he is tough and a good defender, but the fact that his numbers dropped shows his limited upside.. Maybe at best I see him as a 12-8 kind of guy.

I hate players who are scared to take over, and I feel like that is Monroe. He doesn't have the mindset I like--he doesn't have that killer instinct. But he may be the best skilled guy available.

Assuming the big-4 are gone, who do you guys tihnk the Kings should try and grab with the #5 pick? (If you think they're gonna trade do an example of a trade but also say who you think they should pick assuming they don't deal cuz trades are near impossible to predict)


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i dont think they need this pick so theyll

trade down yo 13 or 14 and draft ed davis or hassan whiteside. what they need is for their core players to develop
where is the kings weakness people like beno I personally am not as convinced on that. they have spencer and thompson as the bigs and andres, green, and cassipi at the three so where is their lack of players what they need is seasoning and time together and everyone healthy.

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How about swap a trade with

How about swap a trade with the Raptors?

Imagine a Tyreke + Bosh combination for the Kings.

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I feel your pain but I really

I feel your pain but I really do believe this is just another blessing in disguise

This in my opinion set them up to draft Greg Monroe which would be the best fit for Sacramento in the draft

The only reason hes not a consensus Top 3 Pick is his final Georgetown game and these minor problems

-He lacks passion and leadership
-He looks to pass a little too much
-He does not look to be a dominate scorer too much
-He lacks big game presence

This is all good for the Kings because

-Kings have good leaders in Garcia, and Evans
-Kings dont have many players looking to set everyone up
-Kings have many scorers (probally too many)
-This is not a good thing actaully

He eerily reminds me of Chris Webber

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Well,There is a message board

Well,There is a message board of one of the good sites I used to enter and It has a lot of fans(can't say it here))
It seems that somehow the Wolves fan hates Cousin,also It seems that Kahn said that he will always consider the character of the prospects and that won't play for Cousins
So there is really a good chance that he will fall to you ,or The wolves draft him and force a trade for you(let's say they will ask for Caspi,don't you think it will worth it?)
I've even talked about that in this topic:http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/3-7-picks
p.s I don't know why I got the feeling that Cousin will fall to you and you will pass and draft Monroe ,may be b/c you've done the same with Rubio :D

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first off,

I'm a grizzlies fan and we have been screwed over in the lottery....twice in memphis..(06-07, 07-08)...and a few times in vancouver. The fact is, even with picks around 3-10, you can still build an alright team. You act like the 5th pick is just terrible....cheer up.

A little grizzlies history,

thabeet, 2nd pick. 2009
mayo, 3rd pick (trade) 2008
conely, 4th pick 2007
rudy gay, 8th pick (trade) 2006
marc gasol, very late 2nd round pick (trade) 2008

I do think minnesota will draft cousins and pursue rudy gay...rather than just drafting w-johnson. BUT if they don't....it's gonna he a good day for the kings...

I think the kings will have the choice of cousins, monroe, or aldrich. Also, the kings could look into trading the pick a long with nocioni's contract? why not? clear up some more cap space.

And wow, the kings have plenty of cap space to use in the offseason. Show your franchise some damn respect and support them.

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first of all Grizzly--Where

first of all Grizzly--Where did I not show the Kings respect and who says I am not supporting them?

I know it isn't the end of the world, it's just dissapointing. I trust Petrie in the draft as much as I'd trust any other GM-- he's very good at finding talent. I just wish the Kings picked a little higher so he had more choice and he could definitely get the guy he wants.

Also, that is another thing with the cap space. The odds of us signing a big name FA is slim to none. The cap space doesn't mean much right now to be honest.

To 7Chakras/kahled.. I'm not a big fan of Monroe at all. Spencer Hawes is a big man who passes too much, doesn't look to be a dominant scorer, and does not command the paint. Greg Monroe is going to come in and do the same thing. We need a banger down low. Not another passive guy like Hawes or Landry. The Kings have been on a mission to get tougher--they aren't going to stray away from that now, and I think Monroe would be doing just that.

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Kings will be alright but I

Kings will be alright but I will say this year they are in a bind because Minny could take Cousins but if they do they will need to trade one of their bigs. Cousins does not make immediate sense for them. Wesley Johnson does or Aminu but I think you kind of know that Wesley Johnson will come in and give them what they need. He will be their shooter to open up their inside game. I am hoping Kings get Cousins and move Hawes for more depth. Hawes does not seem to be a fit for the Kings and there are several teams that could use him. Also I feel for Indiana but thing is Bledsoe is moving up but should be around for them to take and hopefully they do.

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Wesley Johnson

He should be the pick. First of all, the Kings worst position last year was small forward. Casspi has potential, but he is a ways away from being a productive starter. He was terrible in the second half of the season. A frontcourt rotation of Landry, Hawes, and Thompson is solid. Udrih actually played well last season and he seems to mesh with Tyreke very well. Plus, there aren't any good pg's at #5.
Wes Johnson is one of the most nba ready players in the draft. He is 23 yrs old with a developed offensive game. He may not have the potential of other players, but he is a good outside shooter and has the potential to be a great defender. The Kings need to spread the court and create driving lanes for Tyreke, so Johnson should be the pick, assuming the top 4 (Wall, Turner, Cousins, and Favors) have been taken.

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The Kings are pretty set in

The Kings are pretty set in their positions except for a C. Thompson can play some time there, but I wouldn't want him playing it full time. At 5 you'll most likely have a choice between Cousins, Aldrich and Monroe(if they consider him a C). Frankly, I would be happy to be in your position right now, as the Kings would probably feel obligated to take Wall or Turner because of the hype around them, but it would probably not make your team any better since Evans has shown he can be the 'guy', which is what those other two guys are being valued for. And with Thompson and Landry, Favors isn't much use to your team.

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Cousins

Cheer up. If everyting holds true, Cousins is going to fall into your (Kings) lap and he will end up ROY. Kings really need a true bruising center to compliment Hawes and Thompson. Look at what ``size`` is doing in the playoffs. Thompson will move to the bench because Hawes likes to step out and shoot. Having Thompson as your first big off the bench is a real blessing because he will be much better then most teams second unit players. Unfortunately, If Min or Jersey trades their picks... kiss Cousins goodbye.

The only Caveat for all of this is 5 years from now is Cousins going to be another Curry... I doubt it.

In 23.5 mins a game for Kentuky he put up 16 and 9 with almost 2 blocks. Thats amazing production. 30 mins a night in the NBA and he will be a 20-10 rookie... provided he can stay on the floor and not Greg Oden himself out of steady minutes. Perkins in Bos was pretty puffy when he came into the league and he has improved his physique every season. He has zero Off game though.

Cousins will change the whole dynamic of your (Kings) rotations and things will start to lineup better.

I would be willing to bet you end up a .500 ball club next season with him.

Kings still need a break down scorer and a lethal 3 man (could be the same guy) in the future, but things are slowly coming together.

The team that will really regret their pick is going to be the one who drafts Orton. He is going to be a tremendous bust. Potential seldomly works out like GM`s think.

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You should try being a

You should try being a T-Wolves fan. 13 straight seasons of never moving up 1 spot in the lottery. A ton of busts, most notably Olowakandi and Joe Simth. Losing KG. Getting to draft Rubio and now he's not coming over (at least for the present). Sealy's death. Horrible management decisions. Trading OJ Mayo for Love, which is not a bad trade, but you question it when Love doesn't even get to start and we are still left with a void at the 2 guard.

Need I mention having to forfeit all those 1sts. Oh its a fun lifestyle.

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Not to knock the twolves but

Not to knock the twolves but I don't think Kahn is the smartest guy. He drafted 3 point guards last year one of which he has on his team roster currently. He then signs Ramon sessions and I guess thinks that having a bunch o guards is good 'trade bait' and realistically it's not good enough to get what they are looking for. Also I don't know if he realizes that al and love can't work because they are too undersized and not athletic at all. I also wonder whether cousins is a good fit for you guys because yes you could move one of those two you have but woulding adding cousins who isn't the fastest or quickest or most athletic the best decision? He is definitely skilled and big but you guys don't have anyone to compilment him. You'd need a more agile power forward.

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I'm a kings fan as well and

I'm a kings fan as well and this is killing me. I've been reading EVERYTHING trying to see who Petrie has goodthoughts about and it's too early to tell. I think alot of people think we'll draft Monroe or aminu and I don't want either one. Those 2 are guys you have when you have 2 guys that can be go to scorers. I'm hoping and praying that we draft cousins. I've said all along that we need a new look in the paint. Thompson and landry work hard but Thompson isn't physically imposing and neither is landry. Thompson should come off the bench, hawes should be traded (he's too passive and he can't finish, and his jumper is way too streaky) we need to draft cousins and start landry next to him. Then look to sign Rudy gay as we really need a prolific guy on the perimeter. Wes Johnson seems like he'd be great too but we ABSOLUTELY NEED cousins. Then maybe in this offseason get rid of nocioni and Kenny Thomas contract and look to sign boozer or bosh. I also like iguodala and I feel he could become expendable if Philly takes turner. I don't know it's tough being in the position that we're in. Yeah all our guys are solid right now but the ultimate goal for a franchise is to win championships and the only guy capabe of helping us do so is tyreke Evans. Cousins would IMO make us a playoff team right away and them we'd just need to fill the gaps as necessary.

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I'm a kings fan as well and

I'm a kings fan as well and this is killing me. I've been reading EVERYTHING trying to see who Petrie has goodthoughts about and it's too early to tell. I think alot of people think we'll draft Monroe or aminu and I don't want either one. Those 2 are guys you have when you have 2 guys that can be go to scorers. I'm hoping and praying that we draft cousins. I've said all along that we need a new look in the paint. Thompson and landry work hard but Thompson isn't physically imposing and neither is landry. Thompson should come off the bench, hawes should be traded (he's too passive and he can't finish, and his jumper is way too streaky) we need to draft cousins and start landry next to him. Then look to sign Rudy gay as we really need a prolific guy on the perimeter. Wes Johnson seems like he'd be great too but we ABSOLUTELY NEED cousins. Then maybe in this offseason get rid of nocioni and Kenny Thomas contract and look to sign boozer or bosh. I also like iguodala and I feel he could become expendable if Philly takes turner. I don't know it's tough being in the position that we're in. Yeah all our guys are solid right now but the ultimate goal for a franchise is to win championships and the only guy capabe of helping us do so is tyreke Evans. Cousins would IMO make us a playoff team right away and them we'd just need to fill the gaps as necessary.

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I'm a kings fan as well and

I'm a kings fan as well and this is killing me. I've been reading EVERYTHING trying to see who Petrie has goodthoughts about and it's too early to tell. I think alot of people think we'll draft Monroe or aminu and I don't want either one. Those 2 are guys you have when you have 2 guys that can be go to scorers. I'm hoping and praying that we draft cousins. I've said all along that we need a new look in the paint. Thompson and landry work hard but Thompson isn't physically imposing and neither is landry. Thompson should come off the bench, hawes should be traded (he's too passive and he can't finish, and his jumper is way too streaky) we need to draft cousins and start landry next to him. Then look to sign Rudy gay as we really need a prolific guy on the perimeter. Wes Johnson seems like he'd be great too but we ABSOLUTELY NEED cousins. Then maybe in this offseason get rid of nocioni and Kenny Thomas contract and look to sign boozer or bosh. I also like iguodala and I feel he could become expendable if Philly takes turner. I don't know it's tough being in the position that we're in. Yeah all our guys are solid right now but the ultimate goal for a franchise is to win championships and the only guy capabe of helping us do so is tyreke Evans. Cousins would IMO make us a playoff team right away and them we'd just need to fill the gaps as necessary.

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hmmm

i say tak monroe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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kahhhhhnnnnnnnnn

I think that you have nothing to worry about cousins will be there at pick 5. as for the TWolves. i think that they will trade down and take local boy Cole Aldrich. Probably wes johnson to the clippers for Aldrich and a future first

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To become a championship team

To become a championship team there are some aspects that are crucial.

1. A good coach that can put in place a system that allows players and the team to flourish, someone that can motivate players to compete on a nightly basis, and someone who can put players in check if they get out of hand.

2. A floor leader, someone who controls the pace of the game because he commands attention whenever he does or does not have control of the ball.

3. A dominant post player on both ends of the floor. someone who can really hurt the other team down low and still keep up on the defensive end without his offense suffering.

4. Role players, these players are not stars, but they are definitely great at their role on the team, whether that be defending the other teams stars, spreading the defense with their shooting abilities, setting up other teammates with easy looks, or a little bit of everything.

5. A sixth man who changes the pace or flow of the game when he come on the floor, this player is crucial to stopping runs, letting stars rest, and sometimes even getting the focus back onto what the team does best.

6. Chemistry, the team needs to play well with each other, but it is more than that. They need to have skill sets that complement each other’s games.

The Kings are on their way to this type of a team but still need a good amount of pieces. They seriously need a dominate post player at the center position and a few more role players who can stretch the floor as well as defend. They have a few players who I believe could step into that sixth man role very well but still need to improve a bit. Most importantly they need to take the time they have and practice playing team ball so that they can improve their chemistry and hopefully their record.

That being said I almost wish the Kings could take both Wes and Cousins, I think they both would fit well with the Kings.

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i think the wolves will shock

i think the wolves will shock people and take cole aldrich at #4. one hes a minnesota guy and two they need a true center that plays D.

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