[Dale WorthingtonParticipant]

Even though the Cavs won the game, LeFraud scored a measly 3 points (1/5 FGs) over the last 10:13 of the game.

Incredibly unclutch.

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 So what he only scored 3 points, how many away is he from cracking the All Time Top 10 List?

I agree that he MAY never win a Championship again, but it’s not because he’s not a Great Player or lacking a Clutch Gene, I think he’s running out of Gas and the Team built around him is not better than the Warriors, Spurs or Thunder, and 2 of those 3 are built to Last

The Cavs wont beat any of those Teams with Irving guarding Curry, Parker or Westbrook, than you have Love forced to check Draymond, Aldridge or Ibaka…Lebron will be spent after guarding Thompson, Leonard or Durant and will have logged some serious minutes by that time, I believe father time is catching up to him Unfortunately…

The Cavs need an Xfactor, on 2K thats JR-Shumpert, in the real world, someone will need to hit big shots around their Big 3…

I think the window is closing on Lebron especially if he stays in Cleveland and they dont trade Irving or Love for some Championship pieces

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Which two? Spurs aren’t going anywhere ever they will always be the Spurs. GSW is arguably the best Basketball team of all-time and they will stick together until they retire. OKC is a max contract from Durant away from being relevant for the duration of that contract and even with just Westbrook or just Durant either is enough to build around and stay a 50 win team.

I’d say all three are built to last OKC just has some resigning to do.

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 The Thunder if they fail to move passed the Spurs or Warriors this year and next…I really feel like Westbrook and Durant would both consider leaving OKC and going home…

The Warriors will not keep this up for more than a season or two, Iggy, Bogut, Livingston and even Draynond to a degree will all be getting older and facing the same problems the great teams and players face, Wear and tear!

Than you have the possibility that guys leave for more money and a bigger role, these guys will all have their ring or rings in the case they Repeat or 3peat, first up is Barnes this summer, if he’s offered a Max Contract purely to force the Warriors hand it’ll be very interesting going forward, Steph has already states that he dreamed of playing for his hometown Charlotte Hornets, wouldn’t rule him out in the Homecoming party in a few years, Lebron really put the bug in everyone’s ear, although he hasnt delivered one in his own hometown…

AnywY, just spitballing some ideas I had going forward…

 

 

 

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 The Thunder if they fail to move passed the Spurs or Warriors this year and next…I really feel like Westbrook and Durant would both consider leaving OKC and going home…

The Warriors will not keep this up for more than a season or two, Iggy, Bogut, Livingston and even Draynond to a degree will all be getting older and facing the same problems the great teams and players face, Wear and tear!

Than you have the possibility that guys leave for more money and a bigger role, these guys will all have their ring or rings in the case they Repeat or 3peat, first up is Barnes this summer, if he’s offered a Max Contract purely to force the Warriors hand it’ll be very interesting going forward, Steph has already states that he dreamed of playing for his hometown Charlotte Hornets, wouldn’t rule him out in the Homecoming party in a few years, Lebron really put the bug in everyone’s ear, although he hasnt delivered one in his own hometown…

AnywY, just spitballing some ideas I had going forward…

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Which two? Spurs aren’t going anywhere ever they will always be the Spurs. GSW is arguably the best Basketball team of all-time and they will stick together until they retire. OKC is a max contract from Durant away from being relevant for the duration of that contract and even with just Westbrook or just Durant either is enough to build around and stay a 50 win team.

I’d say all three are built to last OKC just has some resigning to do.

 

[markfitz14Participant]

Cavs can definetely still win it all. Even this year its possibile. They still have Lebron. Yeah they have prblms with defense. It’s like they want to be this offensive jugernaut like GSW. But then they need to be better on Defense. I would start Delly on Curry, He helps a little more on D than Irving, Move Irving to SG, Shump to SF and LB to PF and Love to C. They just need to have good coaching moves and they can win.

 

[markfitz14Participant]

Cavs can definetely still win it all. Even this year its possibile. They still have Lebron. Yeah they have prblms with defense. It’s like they want to be this offensive jugernaut like GSW. But then they need to be better on Defense. I would start Delly on Curry, He helps a little more on D than Irving, Move Irving to SG, Shump to SF and LB to PF and Love to C. They just need to have good coaching moves and they can win.

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 So what he only scored 3 points, how many away is he from cracking the All Time Top 10 List?

I agree that he MAY never win a Championship again, but it’s not because he’s not a Great Player or lacking a Clutch Gene, I think he’s running out of Gas and the Team built around him is not better than the Warriors, Spurs or Thunder, and 2 of those 3 are built to Last

The Cavs wont beat any of those Teams with Irving guarding Curry, Parker or Westbrook, than you have Love forced to check Draymond, Aldridge or Ibaka…Lebron will be spent after guarding Thompson, Leonard or Durant and will have logged some serious minutes by that time, I believe father time is catching up to him Unfortunately…

The Cavs need an Xfactor, on 2K thats JR-Shumpert, in the real world, someone will need to hit big shots around their Big 3…

I think the window is closing on Lebron especially if he stays in Cleveland and they dont trade Irving or Love for some Championship pieces

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Nice to see a bold prediction from Worthington….But a single 3pt quarter isn’t my reason. 

I agree that he won’t win another championship as the best player on the Cavs, but I can’t guarantee he won’t go ring hunting when he’s 35 to 40 and pick up a couple more along the way. 

The Cavs this year aren’t going to beat the Warriors, Spurs or OKC in a 7-game series…and unless there’s a major roster shake-up, it won’t happen next year either. 

In a couple of years, he’ll no longer be a top 5 player with all those miles on the legs, so someone else is going to have to do the gruntwork. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I would bet everything I own and care about, a couple body parts (fingers/toes), and all my beliefs and morales that the Cavs would beat the Thunder in a 7 game series if they met in the finals and they could probably do it with a brutally injured lineup. Lebron is 17-4 against Durant. Lebron turns into a whole different animal in the playoffs that Thunder team is not ready for.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I would bet everything I own and care about, a couple body parts (fingers/toes), and all my beliefs and morales that the Cavs would beat the Thunder in a 7 game series if they met in the finals and they could probably do it with a brutally injured lineup. Lebron is 17-4 against Durant. Lebron turns into a whole different animal in the playoffs that Thunder team is not ready for.

[Hype Machine]

Lol, that is a BIG call.

Too bad its not gonna happen, but Id still back OKC. 

Your fingers, toes and morals arent worth much to me…that just leaves everything you own.

I’m not greedy, just send me your best bearskin rug and bottle of Authentic Maple Syrup. That stuffs expensive as hell here.

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Lol, that is a BIG call.

Too bad its not gonna happen, but Id still back OKC. 

Your fingers, toes and morals arent worth much to me…that just leaves everything you own.

I’m not greedy, just send me your best bearskin rug and bottle of Authentic Maple Syrup. That stuffs expensive as hell here.

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Nice to see a bold prediction from Worthington….But a single 3pt quarter isn’t my reason. 

I agree that he won’t win another championship as the best player on the Cavs, but I can’t guarantee he won’t go ring hunting when he’s 35 to 40 and pick up a couple more along the way. 

The Cavs this year aren’t going to beat the Warriors, Spurs or OKC in a 7-game series…and unless there’s a major roster shake-up, it won’t happen next year either. 

In a couple of years, he’ll no longer be a top 5 player with all those miles on the legs, so someone else is going to have to do the gruntwork. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 If the Warriors can clear room, by moving out Barnes and Bogut and maybe Iggy, to sign Durant then they can clear enough to sign LeBron instead.  So he could easily win another championship.

As a Cav, they will be the pick by most to get out of the East this year and for a few more seasons too.  An injury to the superstar of the West team in the NBA Finals or if the Cavs play great, LeBron wins again.

In ten years, the Spurs talk LeBron out of retirement and he comes off the bench with Old Man Duncan and Old Manu.  Then the Spurs with Aldridge, Durant, Leonard and the great bench win, and James wins again.

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 If the Warriors can clear room, by moving out Barnes and Bogut and maybe Iggy, to sign Durant then they can clear enough to sign LeBron instead.  So he could easily win another championship.

As a Cav, they will be the pick by most to get out of the East this year and for a few more seasons too.  An injury to the superstar of the West team in the NBA Finals or if the Cavs play great, LeBron wins again.

In ten years, the Spurs talk LeBron out of retirement and he comes off the bench with Old Man Duncan and Old Manu.  Then the Spurs with Aldridge, Durant, Leonard and the great bench win, and James wins again.

 

 

[halfdecayedParticipant]

 can any1 please explain to me why the cavs cant win a 7 game series against OKC, this is laughable… Yesterday they were barely beating a Clippers team without 4 of their starters.. just got to bed dude..

[halfdecayedParticipant]

 can any1 please explain to me why the cavs cant win a 7 game series against OKC, this is laughable… Yesterday they were barely beating a Clippers team without 4 of their starters.. just got to bed dude..

[frogmanParticipant]

 The fact that you put 10:13 makes me think he scored with 10:14 left in the game haha.

Anywho what absurb reasoning.

[frogmanParticipant]

 The fact that you put 10:13 makes me think he scored with 10:14 left in the game haha.

Anywho what absurb reasoning.

[Dale WorthingtonParticipant]

No, that’s not what happened. LeFraud re-checked in with 5:13 to go in the 4th quarter and the game lasted an additional 5 minutes (went into OT).

[Dale WorthingtonParticipant]

No, that’s not what happened. LeFraud re-checked in with 5:13 to go in the 4th quarter and the game lasted an additional 5 minutes (went into OT).

[Dale WorthingtonParticipant]

 Called it.

LeBron/LeFraud/LeTurnover with his typical AWOL 4th quarter performance. Completely disappeared in the final 10 mins outside of 3 uncontested layups in garbage time. Worst closer in the history of the sport.

[Hype Machine]

Haha classic LeWorthington

Aka all-time ‘LeFraud’ hater.  

You’ll like this thread

 

 http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/least-clutch-player-ever

[Hype Machine]

Haha classic LeWorthington

Aka all-time ‘LeFraud’ hater.  

You’ll like this thread

 

 http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/least-clutch-player-ever

[dudo670Participant]

Lebron is trying to be MJ and Kobe when he’s not those guys. He’s not the shooter or ball-handler either of those guys were. Lebron is Lebron. He needs to let Kyrie run the point (even though I’m not sure Kyrie is a true PG) and post up 5-7 feet from the basket. When he posts up in that range, he’s nearly unstoppable. Instead, he just wants to play this freelance basketball where its 5 individuals not working together, and he doesn’t want a coach that will force him to listen to said coach (unless maybe Phil came calling), and most importantly, I just don’t think Lebron cares about winning titles. He’s very happy being a global icon and I think he’s content with things that way. When Jordan or Bird or Magic lost, they didn’t care about anything else, it ruined their lives off the court. When Lebron loses, the next day its okay because he deep down does not care about winning and won’t do anything to win. Especially if it requires making sacrifices. That’s ok, but its frustrating to see a guy with all his talent struggle to win 2 titles when the east has been bad his whole career and since 2011 he has had one season (2013) where his team was pushed in the conference finals, and that season Lebron also happened to have his best finals performance of his career (except for the last minute of game 6 when he flat out choked until Ray Allen saved him). 

[dudo670Participant]

Lebron is trying to be MJ and Kobe when he’s not those guys. He’s not the shooter or ball-handler either of those guys were. Lebron is Lebron. He needs to let Kyrie run the point (even though I’m not sure Kyrie is a true PG) and post up 5-7 feet from the basket. When he posts up in that range, he’s nearly unstoppable. Instead, he just wants to play this freelance basketball where its 5 individuals not working together, and he doesn’t want a coach that will force him to listen to said coach (unless maybe Phil came calling), and most importantly, I just don’t think Lebron cares about winning titles. He’s very happy being a global icon and I think he’s content with things that way. When Jordan or Bird or Magic lost, they didn’t care about anything else, it ruined their lives off the court. When Lebron loses, the next day its okay because he deep down does not care about winning and won’t do anything to win. Especially if it requires making sacrifices. That’s ok, but its frustrating to see a guy with all his talent struggle to win 2 titles when the east has been bad his whole career and since 2011 he has had one season (2013) where his team was pushed in the conference finals, and that season Lebron also happened to have his best finals performance of his career (except for the last minute of game 6 when he flat out choked until Ray Allen saved him). 

[Dale WorthingtonParticipant]

 Called it.

LeBron/LeFraud/LeTurnover with his typical AWOL 4th quarter performance. Completely disappeared in the final 10 mins outside of 3 uncontested layups in garbage time. Worst closer in the history of the sport.

[HitsterParticipant]

 LBJ has won two titles and at 31 is still an elite player, he’ll never be MJ but I doubt we will ever see another player as good as MJ was. If the Cavs do lose this series it will mean LBJ is 0-3 in finals with the Cavs and there is a chance this line up may never win another title. But look at the Spurs with their veterans who won titles in their late 30’s, the Cavs can still be a major force or there/there abouts.

Maybe the trading of Wiggins for K-Love could really come back to haunt the Cavs in the next few years as the young Wiggins could have played around LBJ for a few years and then assumed the mantle around 2018 and LBJ provide the veteran running mate role to Wiggins thus increasing LBJ’s potential title timespan.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 LBJ has won two titles and at 31 is still an elite player, he’ll never be MJ but I doubt we will ever see another player as good as MJ was. If the Cavs do lose this series it will mean LBJ is 0-3 in finals with the Cavs and there is a chance this line up may never win another title. But look at the Spurs with their veterans who won titles in their late 30’s, the Cavs can still be a major force or there/there abouts.

Maybe the trading of Wiggins for K-Love could really come back to haunt the Cavs in the next few years as the young Wiggins could have played around LBJ for a few years and then assumed the mantle around 2018 and LBJ provide the veteran running mate role to Wiggins thus increasing LBJ’s potential title timespan.

 

[nill650Participant]

 OP your real name is Skip right?

why don’t you call up Adam Silver and tell him your story, since he claims the officials are doing their job %90 correct , as the voice in his ear is the sound of someone close to him about to leave the game of life if he does’nt lie.

maybe the org crime syndicate that is forcing game 7’s by paying off players to choke and officials to look the other way so that GSW can look like they are still the best team in the league after getting destroyed by OKC untiul they went back to playing with house Money when nobody cared any more just like all season from the same b.s. no calls etc etc.

If the Cavs lose this series it will be in game 7 and it will be because the GSW were the better team, but before that game, nothing is real.

[nill650Participant]

 OP your real name is Skip right?

why don’t you call up Adam Silver and tell him your story, since he claims the officials are doing their job %90 correct , as the voice in his ear is the sound of someone close to him about to leave the game of life if he does’nt lie.

maybe the org crime syndicate that is forcing game 7’s by paying off players to choke and officials to look the other way so that GSW can look like they are still the best team in the league after getting destroyed by OKC untiul they went back to playing with house Money when nobody cared any more just like all season from the same b.s. no calls etc etc.

If the Cavs lose this series it will be in game 7 and it will be because the GSW were the better team, but before that game, nothing is real.

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