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Why Dwight Howard is the best center in the league?

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Why Dwight Howard is the best center in the league?

Why Dwight Howard is the best center in the league (today)?

Simply because it is the only center that remained healthy in his career

Your competition since coming into the league was
Yao Ming (injured)
Shaq (retired)
Andrew Bogut (injured)
Emeka Okafor (injured)
Greg Oden (injured)
Andrew Bynum (injured)
Al Jefferson (in Minnesota seemed like it would easily beat him, until he was injured)
Joakim Noah (not was kept healthy enough games to overtake)
Brook Lopez (injured)
Alonzo Mourning (injured)

Candidates overtake

DeMarcus Cousins ​​(bad head)
Jonas Valanciunas (missed 20 games in his rookie season injury)
Andre Drummond (missed 22 games because of injury in his rookie year)
Roy Hibbert (progressing well)
Enes Kanter (progressing well)
Steve Adams (?)
Alex Len (injured before debuting)
Marc Gasol (progressing well)
Nerlens Noel (injured before debuting, but I have high hopes)
Javale McGee (bad head)


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I'm Sorry.............But I

I'm Sorry.............But I Had to Lmao when i Saw ''BAD HEAD''..

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So simplified. Bad Head =

So simplified.

Bad Head = why I struggle with math.

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Well...that and he's a

Well...that and he's a 21/14/2.5 player

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Al Jefferson was a beast in

Al Jefferson was a beast in 2009, but there's no way he was going to easily overtake Dwight Howard as the best center in the NBA (or overtake him at all).

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Few Things

I agree Dwight isn't the best center in history nor anywhere close, but sometimes for a center staying healthy can be a task in itself. You see how many you named with a history of serious injury. Dwight is 6-11 and 265 lbs. To be able to move the way he does is no easy task for a guy his size, let alone stay healthy. Great shot blocker, great rebounder, great great overall post presence.

Few things about the lists.

Yao Ming, Shaq Alonzo, Mourning (retired and shouldn't be on here)
Andrew Bogut, Greg Oden, Andrew Bynum, Brook Lopez (injury plagued careers)
Emeka Okafor, Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, Javale McGee (not better than Dwight)
Al Jefferson (is a power forward, center out of necessity)

Candidates overtake:

DeMarcus Cousins, Jonas Valanciunas, Andre Drummond, Enes Kanter, Roy Hibbert (BEST CHALLENGER)
Alex Len, Nerlens Noel, Steve Adams (haven't played yet)

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Yao Ming's anthem had he remained healthy:

Had he not had the career ending foot injury, he was well on his way to becoming the leagues top center. Not to mention his head-to-head dominance against Dwight:

http://bkref.com/tiny/wIhOF

Dwight was a tad more consistent than Yao, though I think that in part was due to the injuries as well. Andrew Bynum is the only other player I see in the conversation for modern centers who could have unseated Dwight. Marc Gasol and Roy Hibbert are both good, just neither have the overall impact on the game that a Dwight Howard does. JoeWolf hit it on the head that the numbers tell the story in this case.

No one has been as consistently dominant as Dwight who fits the "true center" position from 2009 on (again, counting Tim Duncan and KG as both PF's, which was the position that they were most noted as until 2011 or so). I am not crazy about him, plus he had definite issues last season. Still, even so, he was coming off of an injury and still managed to put up numbers that kept him amongst the elite pivots in the game. Think he is still being chased by everyone for the top center spot, with the guys chasing him not exactly showing enough to really separate themselves.

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dwight has no impact offensively besides garbage buckets and O rebounds

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Andre Drummond

Will be the best Center for the remainder of this decade....write it down

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I have critiqued Dwight since

I have critiqued Dwight since I've been on this site so my negative opinion of him is not just about this past year with the lakers. But damn he sucked for us. U mean all this I'm the man crap, lakers lost to the spurs 4-0 by about 20 a game with Dwight as "the man". But he is the best center in the game. It's funny because people talk about cousins like he's next in line, so I got my eyes on him in that team USA scrimmage a few weeks back, and he was hands down the worst player in that game.

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you know yaos retired right

you know yaos retired right

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Personal opinion but I'm

Personal opinion but I'm still amazed how we give so much credit to stats and just don't base our opinion on games we have seen.

Centers like Noah or Gasol have (personal opinion) GREAT impact on the game when they're on the court. BBall IQ is higher for this two centers and they bring Wins....

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So...?

So Dwight doesn't bring wins? Or have HUGE IMPACTS on both sides of the ball when he is in?

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Gasol is one thing.....

Marc Gasol to me is in the conversation, he does have a great impact and he definitely was a major part of the Grizzlies making it as far as they did last season. Noah, on the other hand, is not even close. The Bulls were 36-30 (54.5%) with Noah last season, the Lakers were 42-34 (55.2%) with Dwight. Not a major difference, but I think saying Noah has more of an impact than Dwight Howard just has little merit.

Noah definitely struggles offensively, particularly seems to when the Play-offs come around. For as limited as Dwight may be on that end of the floor, he is absolutely someone you have to take into account. He is phenomenal on both ends as a rebounder, much more so than either Gasol or Noah.

I am not huge fan of his off-court and sometimes on-court antics over the past few seasons, but I see little proof that these things make Noah more impactful than him. Not to mention, with the cluster f#ck that was the Lakers last season, will be interesting to see him in a possibly more cohesive situation in Houston. So, you can say Marc Gasol may have more of an impact than Dwight last season, that is not out of the question. However, it is hard for me to say he is more impactful overall due to Dwight's body of work.

With Noah, I see 0 evidence of him having more of an impact on winning basketball games as opposed to Dwight Howard. He plays a nice role, just nothing like Dwight when he was carrying Orlando or for even what he had to do last season in a tough situation with no bench in LA. I know you are french, so maybe you like Noah more as a player. That is fine, though does not necessarily make him a player that would make him a better center than Dwight Howard.

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Noah actually brings more to

Noah actually brings more to the game than Howard but Howard is better athlete. Roy Hibbert is kind of in the same boat. Both of those players are more skilled than Howard but he is more athletic. Neither is also the team killer than Howard appears to be from his time in Orlando and the Lakers. We will see if he can bounce back.

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Are people actually saying

Are people actually saying that Howard is more skilled than Noah and Hibbert? I just surprised that I have yet to see a post that disagreed with my points yet it appears people disagreed with my statements.

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I think Dwight bounces back

I think Dwight bounces back strong next year. He will be healthier and more mentally commited. The only center that I might take over him is hibbert, I think he will be a stud. Better shooter and post player then Dwight. Just doesn't have the ability to maintain consistency for 40 minutes.

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lol

In terms of Skill in the center position i only have 2 in my mind Cousins and Gasol...

Gasol, PER- 19.5, WS- 11.5, Great All Around Player

Howard, PER- 19.4, WS- 7.6, Good Defensive Player lost his offensive touch in the post

Cousins, PER- 20.2, WS- 4.4, not a great defender

This Season Gasol was the best Center, in terms of Skill i think Cousins and Gasol are better than Howard, but i'm not saying Howard is a Scrub he is definetly a good player, but lacks the skill in terms of his all around game but he is a beast in the defensive department my doubt his what he is going to do when he loses his athleticism and why didn't he evolve is Low Post Offense and why he is actually worse? he was good in his last 2 seasons with the Magic

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oh here i have some of his moves in the low post
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Simply because it is the only

Simply because it is the only center that remained healthy in his career

Your competition since coming into the league was
Yao Ming (injured)
Shaq (retired)
Andrew Bogut (injured)
Emeka Okafor (injured)
Greg Oden (injured)
Andrew Bynum (injured)
Al Jefferson (in Minnesota seemed like it would easily beat him, until he was injured)
Joakim Noah (not was kept healthy enough games to overtake)
Brook Lopez (injured)
Alonzo Mourning (injured)
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You have got to be kidding me.

Shaq and Mourning were past their prime when Howard entered the league, they were the best of the previous generation.

Okafor even without injuries would never have been as good as Howard.

I don't know what you were watching but Jefferson never seemed like he would overtake Howard.

Howard even without many offensive moves or skills is far better offensively than Noah and Bogut and better on the defensive end of the court as well. Nothing to do with their durability.

Lopez has nothing on Howard as far as defensive ability and rebounding, he missed one year because of an ankle injury but other than that injuries have not been an issue with him.

You might have a point with Yao, Bynum and Oden but not any of the others.

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.....

This thread is hilarious and that is directed at those who are dismissing Dwight and mentioning names like Noah and Hibbert or any other center.

I am going to get right to the point.

Dwight Howard, with Hedo, Jameer Nelson, Rashard Lewis and Courtney Lee went to the NBA Finals and because of him the Magic won 50-60 games a year.

Hedo hasn't had a good year since he left Orlando. Neither has Rashard Lewis, neither has Courtney Lee and Jameer Nelson has been lost in oblivion.

Folks, you can be annoyed with his indecision and his immaturity... You can critique his offensive game (which isn't as bad as adverstised). You can talk about his inability to make free throws.

But he is the best defensive center. The best rebounder in the league. And 99% of the teams in the NBA MUST double him when he gets the ball.

THAT is why he is the best center in the game.

Noah is a nice player...Smart and team oriented...but stop the craziness about him being as good as Dwight and how the stats won't show it.

Folks crack me up with their critique's of Dwight post 2 years ago when he started acting like a 10 year old child.

But that doesn't diminish who he is as a player.

Comical..simply comical.

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Totally agree with everything

Totally agree with everything "Thepessimest" said.

How can people slam him for his offense when he puts up 21ppg shooting >55%.

I agree that his FT shooting is horrible, I agree that he lacks the offensive skill of the Gasol brothers or Bynum, I agree that he lacks range of his hook shot. But in the end, he still puts up more ppg than those guys and shoots a similiar percentage.

And lets not forget, that he is still probably the strongest defenesive presence in the league.

I'm also disappointed that he never really improved his offensive skill set, especially over the past 4-5 years where he has been pretty much the exact player.

Still no reason to exaggerate the hate like that.

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I'd take Roy Hibbert and Marc

I'd take Roy Hibbert and Marc Gasol over Dwight. Cheaper contracts and helped their respective teams reach the conference finals while Dwight couldn't get the LAKERS out of the first round.

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