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Why does everyone have LeBron over Wade? Wade is better and it's not even close

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Wade supporters yall are

Wade supporters yall are kinda makin it hard to keep fightin for our point lol. And Im on the D. Wade side lol. Come on, the supporting casting sucked. But Lebron still carried that squad. A squad with questionable coaching, an inconsistent cast. Lebron has put up some serious numbers in the playoffs, BUT the fact is, when it mattered most, averages or not, when those points wouldve mattered most, he didnt deliver. Given that FACT, I wouldnt give the team over to Lebron just yet. That shows a lack of intensity. Every winner plays for the big moment, crunch time, the fourth quarter. Lebron hasnt shown me that just yet.

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DraftDanteCunningham Your

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Your opinion is your opinion. That's all I can say man. I disagree. I think James is better. You like Wade and hate LeBron. You read into things too much. You honestly must have gotten played by LeBron. Did he not give you a autograph at one point? Did he say something about ya mum?

You really hate this guy...Next thing you'll say Durant is better then him.

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go look at Wade's teammates

go look at Wade's teammates vs Boston....his #2...J' Oneal shot like 5-60 from the field....Arroyo? he was too busy getting burned by Rondo.....Beasley was too busy burning....marijuana .....Q-Rich was too busy chucking left and right.

think about it.....those 4 were his starters.....2 washed up guys, 1 never was and 1 who has his heads in the clouds thinking about unicorns and bunnys

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I wouldnt say Lebron is a

I wouldnt say Lebron is a loser.. Losers dont lead their team to the NBA Finals or back to back 60 win seasons.. The debate can go either way...

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not yet....I will take Durant

not yet....I will take Durant soon though.

I could care less about Lebron, people just need to learn how overrated the guy is and soon to be 4th best in the league.

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WHy?

Cause he's better at almost ever facet of the game thats why.

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Ehh. I think when Durant

Ehh. I think when Durant surpasses LeBron if he does..Kobe will be on his decline so LeBron will never be "4th Best"
& I don't think he'll ever be out of the top two..Sorry.
I dislike LeBron very much for his decision, but the fact of the matter is, the guy can ball.
& He does it better then billions of people on the Earth. The only man know to Earth that can do it better is Kobe as of now, & the next closest are Durant, 'Melo, & Wade not in that order. LeBron will be at the Top for a while at his age. Wade is about to hit 29? He's got 3 elite years left if that in my opinion. & they won't be considered "elite" when looking at his stats because of his teammates that recently joined him. If you can understand what I'm trying to say..
Aha.

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lebron>wade. Not by a huge

lebron>wade. Not by a huge amount, but he is. If its not even close, then how come NO ONE was calling for wade to win mvp last year? I dont even like lebron and i tink the hate he is getting is ridculous. I would hope that fellow kobe fans can see the comparioson of how lebron is getting shi.tted on the same way KObe was getting &$#%#&@!t.ed on a few years ago before he got back into winning titles and shut everyone up. People are just trying to kick a man when he is down.

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All I can do is look and

All I can do is look and laugh.

To be honest, I have to say thank you. There are more silly fans out there who talk stupidity and I hope more of them post stupid ideas such as this. I laugh at things like this.

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People are just trying to

People are just trying to kick a man when he is down.

AMEN and plus 1

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Plain nd simple lebron is the

Plain nd simple lebron is the better player.... but knick32 is brain dead saying miami is brons team, bron left the argument of goat wen he joine wade nd left his hometown team... no matter how many rings heat win, wade will always have 1 more then lenron......again let me reiterate knick32 is an idiot... how can you have 3000 post and be in the minus points, you can only use the excuse " well ppl jock me, or ppl on this site no nothing" so many times like we talkin 3000 posts and minus points!!

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Yeah exactly. Nobody was

Yeah exactly. Nobody was saying Dwyane Wade was better than Lebron during the season. In fact, I was the only person that even brought up that idea besides this one going on here, and I did it about this time last year as a hypothetical question.

It's easy to try and say Wade is better after Lebron leaves Cleveland. Kicking the man while he's down is exactly right smh

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Miami is LeBrons team. Maybe

Miami is LeBrons team. Maybe not technically but he is the best player on that team, all he hype around the Heat is because of him, He will be the reason they will go over the top, and any team he ever plays he will be the main focus.

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Plain nd simple lebron is the

Plain nd simple lebron is the better player.... but knick32 is brain dead saying miami is brons team, bron left the argument of goat wen he joine wade nd left his hometown team... no matter how many rings heat win, wade will always have 1 more then lenron......again let me reiterate knick32 is an idiot...

I'm confused, if your agreeing with me and disagreeing on a small part, why you have to rip me for it? It's all good. I don't stress. I have negatives and haven't made a big deal about it since I got there. I never said people on this site are stupid. I know some of these people on and off this site. I have 3000 posts and negatives? So what? I know I can talk basketball, people off the site who seen my work know I'm doing things and have a career at this.

From my point of view Kayne? You should be a professional blower when you grow up. Your doing a good job now. But please, for the children of this site- Hop off please.

Thank You :)

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"how can you have 3000 post

"how can you have 3000 post and be in the minus points, you can only use the excuse " well ppl jock me, or ppl on this site no nothing" so many times like we talkin 3000 posts and minus points!!"

Really? Who cares about that kind of thing? Why even bring that up? Why are you calling him names? That's not even right man...I bet you feel cool though huh?

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wat u say makes sense, but

jamminlemon wat u say makes sense, but since ur riding shotgun on lebrons D, ur point is less valid

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ok maybe it's closer than

ok maybe it's closer than "not even close" but that made for an even better thread....

but I will still say all day every day Wade is better and then some.

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What i said makes sense.

What i said makes sense. leave it at that. Don't juddge me for having lebron as my avatar because I could just as easily judge you based off of your avatar.

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knick32?? lol professional

knick32?? lol professional blower? bro u prolly should get an education man cause if u have the audacity to think u have a career in hoops other then on your hands and knees cleaning the floor u really are a tool....

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Are you scarecrow

Are you scarecrow now?

Damn....these haters are EVERYWHERE these days. Can't even talk ball with Iggy 9 and Jammin' without haters on the prowl.

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i dont hate, i just

i dont hate, i just discrimanate against idiots like you.....like wtf professional blower.... ur the one &$#%#&@!in about ppl not talkin hoops and there u go callin ppl names, contradicting yourself there boi

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Dwade < Lebron Scoring

Dwade < Lebron Scoring overall . close but Lebron has him check his stats on scoring.

Dwade > Lebron Clutch. not even close Dwade will get the ball all time during clutch time if he does not they are stupid.

Dwade < Lebron Rebounding. Lebron

Dwade > Lebron Defense. Lebron ok defender 1 on 1 great off ball defender but Dwyane plays good defense every game.

Dwade < Lebron Passing . He is a great passer sometimes passes to much but he is a great passer.

Dwade < Lebron. Overall Lebron has him he is a 6 ft 8 260 pound athletic freak that can do a little bit of all. If he had the work ethic he could be better then jordan but he does not want to be the greatest.

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Kayne- I do say that, but you

Kayne-

I do say that, but you came at me. I didn't wanna argue. I'm chill right now. You the one complain about me, COMING BACK and then still complaining about me.

Did I hurt your feelings or something? I don't understand...

Another thing, explain how I'm a idiot? Because of a comment which is my opinion? Come on now.

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yup u hurt my feelings man,

yup u hurt my feelings man, get over yourself.....oh hell ya im chill now 2

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Cool man. No problem.

Cool man. No problem.

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its all gravy haha

its all gravy haha

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I think in late game situations the ball will run through Wade's hands. I think Wade is definitely the better scorer, I can't say about the defense I don't really know. Lebron is the better passer and he'll probably handle a lot of the PG duties. One of the two is gonna have to learn to play better off the ball and I think Wade is better suited for that because of his superior jump shot.

I think the biggest difference in the supporting cast's has been Lebron's lack of a true #2 option. When Wade won the title in 06 he had Shaq (barely past his prime) to throw the ball in to and who could get his shot at anytime. also Antoine Walker was a legit wing option and he had James Posey (40 % 3 point shooter) and Gary Payton (not a huge scoring threat but could still punish smaller guards down low) off the bench. All of these things meant that Wade could carry the offense but he didn't have to do it on every possession.

I think Lebron's situation has been different. All of his wings are spot up shooters, as is his PG and Shaq's not quite young enough to provide enough punch. Also Lebron has had almost no punch off the bench (no Boobie Gibson does not count) Lebron's had almost nobody who has been able to create their own shot. Mo Williams can occasionally as can Jamison, but not consistently enough to give Lebron enough of a break.

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im gonna first and foremost

im gonna first and foremost say the kid posting this is on crack... lebron hits 3's from outer space dude... have u ever seen a cavs game? probably because u probably live in cleveland... hatin on lebron..

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The more i think about it the

The more i think about it the more i realize that Lebron's a better overall player, but Wade has the killer instinct to close out games..Wade's a winner..Lebron's not a loser but he's not a winner you gotta have a ring to be a winner. And it will always be D Wade's team..he was there first, Lebron joined HIM in Miami..and yeah, Miami gets all the pub cause of Lebron, but thats cause Lebron is the most recognizable face in basketball.

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I am as big of a Lebron hater

I am as big of a Lebron hater as you will find, but unfortunately he is better than wade. Even so, I would rather Wade have the last shot if Im a Miami fan, hes got the killer instinct lebron will never have.

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Lebron is better No Gm would

Lebron is better
No Gm would take Wade over him

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d-wade better outside

d-wade better outside shooter? sorry but he actually has a lower career 3 point shooting percentage then bron

i think a lot of dudes on here are still butt-hurt that LeBron jetted out of town and are saying crazy things now about wade being better

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Lebron is the better player,

Lebron is the better player, Wade had one great series against the Mavs who choked mid way through the 4th qtr of Game 3. What has Wade done since he had that great Finals series nothing he's lost in the 1st round 3 of the last 4yrs.
One series doesn't make you a better player, if so Paul Pierce is better than Kobe becaz he outplayed him in 2008 and they went guarded each other a lot.

Lebron chokes this past year against the Celtics but they weren't beating the Celtics anyway.
They couldn't stop KG, Rondo was abusing them and Ray Allen/Perkins outplayed the Cavs SG/C almost the whole series. With the Cavs it would've been the same story every year till they had cap room they have grt regular seasons by beating up on a weak East Conf. Than there defense is exposed in the playoffs and the coach has no game plan except have Lebron go 1 on 5. No post game, transition game, if the shooters don't make open 3's they have no chance.

How'd Lebron do against the Magic is that considered choking too?
If so you don't know much about basketball.
What about the 25 pts in the 4th qtr and OT against the Pistons the best defensive team in the league.
2008 he scored what 45 on Pierce in Game 7 was that a choke job.
No one mentions Kobe shot 6 of 24 in Game 7 against the Celtics or 10 of 29 in Game 3 both games the Lakers won.
How many superstar players can shoot that poorly and still have their team win. He also shot 40% for the series but you don't hear ppl bring that up, why caz they won thanks to the supporting cast mainly Gasol.

Also with the game on the line give Mike Miller the ball he'll be open and he's a much better pure shooter than both Lebron and Wade.

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Lebron is a better passer so

Lebron is a better passer so he mite get the ball more often with the game on the line.
Maybe they'll see who has the better matchup.

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wade is better

b/c wade is a gangsta
and lbj is a wangsta

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LOL..U know what? This might

LOL..U know what? This might sound crazy but..Lebron goin to Miami might be the best thing that could happen to Wade..

What i mean by that is Wade plays at an out out pace..each and every game..not many players attack the basket the way he does and receives the constant physical contact he does...that style of play wouldve soon worn down his body..Wade has been injured or played his injuries the past few years..and with the poor supporting cast he had felt like it was up to him to take over games..Lebron goin there might add a few years to Wade's career.....

I bet in 2 years nobody will be saying its Wade's team...thats right in 2 years Miami will be known as Lebron's team....

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LBJ vs D Wade

It's Micky Arison's team first and Pat RIley's second. All of this talk about who's team it is is just stupid. LeBron and Wade are both incredible players, but LeBron is better. People say that LeBron isn't clutch, does anyone remember his game winning shot last year against the Magic? As a Magic fan, I can tell you that I remember and it was painful to see. Does anyone forget that the two biggest buzzer beater shots of the Lakers season were MISSED by Kobe and rebounded and put back by two of his AWESOME teammates. Anytime LeBron or Wade play in a playoff series the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best players in the game are on the other team. Also, why does the best player on the team have to take the last shot. Clearly, Derek Fisher is nowhere near as good as Kobe, but he has hit tons of clutch shots for the Lakers. LeBron has had one bad playoff game in his career, and everyone makes it seem like he's not clutch. His career playoff averages are 29.3 PPG, 8.4 RPG, and 7.3 APG. Those seem like pretty impressive numbers to me. Here is a comparison of D Wade and LeBron purely by numbers.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html

Wade is a top 3-5 player in this league, but LeBron is the best for a reason.

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Mr Knick32 knows nothing

Mr Knick32 knows nothing about basketball. He just comes on this site to sound stupid.

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Call me whatever man. I know

Call me whatever man. I know basketball. I have my opinion and you have yours

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lol at he quit vs boston.

lol at he quit vs boston. there is no comp between wade and james. this is the first time i have actually seen anybody say he is better. lol @ sayin wade can shoot better than james. when? from where? cuz wade cant shoot a lick. yes he a got a ring against the MAVS while bron took his terrible team to finals against while doin with wade did to the mavs to the pistons. its no comp!!

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CelticJayhawk The more i

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The more i think about it the

The more i think about it the more i realize that Lebron's a better overall player, but Wade has the killer instinct to close out games..Wade's a winner..Lebron's not a loser but he's not a winner you gotta have a ring to be a winner. And it will always be D Wade's team..he was there first, Lebron joined HIM in Miami..and yeah, Miami gets all the pub cause of Lebron, but thats cause Lebron is the most recognizable face in basketball.

If this is the case than a lot of hall of famers are not winners either. malone, stockton, maravich, iverson, ewing, drexler, wilkins.

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adamsc14 Dwade < Lebron.

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Dwade < Lebron. Overall Lebron has him he is a 6 ft 8 260 pound athletic freak that can do a little bit of all. If he had the work ethic he could be better then jordan but he does not want to be the greatest.

you need to stop posting for that last comment. if he had the work ethic? lol thats to funny how do u think he got to this point. he is a totally different and better player than he was in high school and he gets better every yr so wat is u talkin about??

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Wade's shot is better, not

Wade's shot is better, not even close. maybe one day Lebron will learn how to shoot...probably not...hasn't developed in 7 years very much.

- Wade's shot is better??? Wade shot less than 30% from behind the 3pt line.. and Lebron is taking pull up three's all the time and shoots over 30%. Michaels or Kobe's shot weren't much better at 25 years old so stop talking trash.

Wade has a better handle/crossover....LeCrab is too busy takin 5 steps every play and crab dribbling all over the place.

- Every NBA-Star is taking those 5 steps and gets help from the refs with no-calls.

- Wade is the best defending guard. He's a beast and better than Lebron.

Lebron will never have the ability to do something like Wade did vs Dallas.

- Getting 25 FT-Attempts? That's pretty tough, dunno what Wade gave to the refs to get all those FTs.

Lebron is better, just accept it. He can play all 5 positions, is a better rebounder, better passer, scored more points on the number 1 team in the reg season, he shot over 50% from the field, he has a jumper stop talking BS and had the better 3pt shot last season. Only thing which is still pretty bad is his FT. He needs a 82% or something since he is getting so much to the line.

But who knows how things will develop. I'm really looking forward to see them play together and see how their numbers will develop. I really hope that they're going to use LBJ as a PG who sets up Wade. I mean the Heat big-men are rather small, but if they have a LBJ, Wade and Miller they can overpower every backcourt. And they have Chalmers who can chase 3 point shooter like RayRay. Please Spoelstra put LBJ at the point.

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