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Why Brandon Knight is doing solo workouts even though he is not the consensus #1 and why it doesn't lower his stock

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Why Brandon Knight is doing solo workouts even though he is not the consensus #1 and why it doesn't lower his stock

I've heard the recent rumblings that Brandon Knight is passing up the opportunity to show off his skills against other top PG's such as Kemba Walker and Jimmer Fredette and instead is otping to workout alone. Many have said that they don't like this and consequently think his stock has lowered and therefore shouldn't be considered for a top 3 pick. I, too do not like that he chose to workout solo but I don't think it has lowered his stock. I created this thread to shed some insight on that topic and hopefully persuade some, of the values that Knight still has.

No, I don't believe that Knight is afraid of compete against Jimmer or Kemba or any other draft prospect. In the Deseret News Sports section today I read that Knight insisted that he isn't cowering from competition he is just listening to advice from his camp. They told him that the best thing for him to do is work out alone. He is only 19 years old, and this is his first and only time in the draft process. The only thing I expect him to be nervous about is the draft process in general and what to do with it not about competing against other draft prospects. His agent has been through this before. He knows what to do, he knows Knight best. He wants what is best for him and apparently he thinks that he can get that, by just working out alone. Knight is young, but is mature beyond his years so he is showing his agent respect and listening to his advice. Can you blame him? I sure can't. Knight even said it himself, "The best thing to do they say is to work out by myself. I'm a competitor. I don't mind working out against anybody. At Kentucky I played against the best of the best all the time." Again he is just listening to his agent. Being such a young draft prospect can you blame him?

Just yesterday he worked out for the Jazz (alone, of course) and had a good showing. Jazz Coach, Tyrone Corbin said "he did a really good job. I mean it was one-on-zero, but (he was able) to show his talent level. ...His basketball IQ seemed to be high." Knight later on said "I thought it went pretty good I hit a lot of shots, did a lot of good things. I think I had a pretty good showing. I'm really confident in what I did."

Some may think Knight is not taking these draft workouts seriously. Knight specifically aimed to put that rumor to rest. He wanted to show the Jazz and other teams he's worked out for (solo, of course) that he is "taking it serious, and that he's willing to listen to instructions and pay attention to the devil in details." I don't know about you but I like that in a young player such as Knight. It shows he is humble and wants to improve and become the best he can be.

In the end all workouts are for is show what you can do and how hard of a worker you are. You can do both of those things in a multi-player workout and in a solo workout. So it really doesn't matter. "Would you like to see him compete, sure, but that's their decision and we'll go from there", said Jazz GM , Kevin O'Conner. "It isn't an ideal situation O'Conner admitted, but he (O'Conner) could still assess things like work ethic and conditioning while also getting another interviewing opportunity with the organization's potential cornerstone playmaker. (Something the Jazz like to do with all of their workout invitees.) Again I completely agree with Kevin O'Conner, sure it would be better if he worked out against Jimmer or Kemba or other draft prospects but in the end he is only listening to advice that he hears from his camp. I know he is young but this shows his maturity and humility, I like that in a player.

There have even been some former NBA stars who have chosen to work out alone. Some of them don't end up being the #1 pick in the draft. Some of you may not remember but six years ago former Jazz player and now NBA star, Deron Williams, opted to do these solo workouts. The Jazz didn't hold it against him in 2005 when they traded up to draft him and then drafted him over another future star, Chris Paul. Should they really hold it over Knight. No, of course not. Afterall he did all of the things the Jazz wanted him to do. It sounds like he had a good interview session. From this perspective I think it's a good possiblity that Knight is picked 3rd overall by the Jazz.

If you've heard the rumor or are speculating that Knight doesn't want to play for Utah, Knight also put to rest that rumor too. "It seems like a great place...it'd be a place that I would love to be there. I don't know where that rumor came from but that's not true at all," said Knight. Furthermore he said that he would "embrace the challenge of following in the footsteps of point guard John Stockton and Deron Williams." He had experience filling in big shoes at Kentucky where he replaced 2010 top pick John Wall. (I don't think he did a great job at that especially since he led the team to the Final Four!) "Knight later said, "I've got a pretty good vibe (here). Everywhere I've been has been pretty good. I definitely got a good connection with the team and the coaches (in Utah). I felt good being in this environment."

Overall, as a Jazz fan, I do want Knight to be their pick at 3. But that isn't my intention in making this thread. Instead my intention is to put to rest all the scrutinizing of Knight even though he isn't participating in multi-player workouts. If he does infact get picked by the Jazz at 3 come June 23rd then that is an added bonus. I hope that I have put that to rest and I hope that most of you now see why Knight has decided to do solo work-outs. He is only taking advice from his agent. Can you blame him? After all he is a young draft prospect. And don't we do the same thing when we are given advice from our elders?

(For those of you who still want to see him compete. Knight did say that "the guy I'm trying to work out against is Kyrie Irving." And he did admit that he'd would be willing to make an exception the "solo-workout only" rule.)


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Ive always thought Knight was

Ive always thought Knight was a lil overrated as a prospect and watching him at UK only furthered my opinion. He is a streaky shooter and for a PG his handle is suspect. During matchups with Ohio State and Uconn i remember Shabazz Napier and Aaron Craft causing Knight so many problem becuz of their ball pressure that they took the ball out of his hands. And juss to create &$#%#&@! for him they continually ran him off down screens from the post. I watched his Kings workout (Solo of course) and he shot the ball brilliantly....becuz nobody was guarding him. If i'm a team im questioning this guy as a competitor for now wanting to workout against anybody, not even the Malcolm Lee or Norris Cole who are borderline first rounders. And the Jason Terry comparisons some people are giving......please....stop it becuz its not even close. Jason Terry could always go an get you a bucket. I'm not sure if Knight can do that. Also imo he lacks the ability to make his teammates better which i noticed in his high school games. I get his size and shot making potential are intriguing...but i dont ever see him being an elite level PG.

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Pre Lotto

remember before the lotto, Knight was projected @ the best #6 (where the Jaze were) and about 6-10 in most mocks!

he was not considered top 3 until the Jazz got the pick (thats when he moved up)

If there is a run on the talented Internationl Bigs, and Cleveland Takes Irving instead of Williams, you could see him fall!

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I do remember that,

I do remember that, SakiSaPuwit but I disagree with you. I think if Knight doesn't get pick by the Jazz at three then he won't get past Toronto at 5. Here are the possible top 3 scenarios that I see of the top 4 or 5 picks: (If the Jazz pass on Knight at 3

  1. Cavs: Irving
  2. Wolves: Williams
  3. Jazz: Kanter
  4. Cavs: Leonard
  5. Raptors Knight

or:

  1. Cavs: Williams
  2. Wolves: Irving
  3. Jazz: Kanter
  4. Cavs: Knight

or:

  1. Cavs: Kanter
  2. Wolves: Williams
  3. Jazz: Irving
  4. Cavs: Knight

Why do I see this because, the Cavs have said they need a PG even though they are still debating between Williams and Irving. Therefore, if the Cavs don't take a PG with the #1 pick then they will likely pick the next best available PG, with Irving likely to be gone by 4 that would have to Knight. The Raptors are rumored to really like Knight and ideally would select him at 5 if he is available. (Which is actually pretty unlikely) The Kings also like him alot and will probably try their hardest to trade up to get him. (Would the Kings really trade up 1 pick just to pick Knight. Of course not, they would probably trade up 3 maybe four picks instead.) So, yes, even though before the draft lottery Knight was considered a 6-10 candidate, and then all of a sudden moved up to a top 5 pick once the draft lottery passed, it is actually a likely possibility. Yes, Knight is a top 5 talent in this draft. (This is a weak draft so what do you expect?) This just goes to show you that how the draft lottery turns out can actually affect a player's stock both negatively and positively.

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You don't go to Kentucky if

You don't go to Kentucky if you're not a competitor. You don't follow John Wall if you're afraid of competition/criticism/expectations.

Deron Williams didn't workout against anybody either if I recall.

Why hire an agent if you're not going to take his advice?

This is much to do over nothing. Knight is fine, he's not afraid.

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He was projected a lot lower

He was projected a lot lower than #3 until the Jazz got the 3 pick, a fact which amazes me because the Jazz are the only team in the top ten with PG that was a All-Star, and it was only two years ago he was a All-Star. I'm just wondering why they are determined for us to get a PG, there are three positions that are weaker than PG for us.

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@SLCJazz82 The Jazz do have

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The Jazz do have 3 positional needs depending on how you view each current Jazz player, C, SF, SG, and PG depending on how you view Devin Harris. SG/SF may not be of as great a need depending on how you view Hayward, whether he'll be SG or SF, but depth is obviously a concern. But if you are going with BPA, then who do you take over Knight besides Kanter which is debateable if he's BPA over Knight? Burks is the #1 rated SG in this draft, but I wouldn't take him over Knight. Veseley or Leanord depending on who you talk to are best SF, but again, I would not take either over Knight (and my opinion is basically just that of what I've read), and lastly it's up for debate who's BPA between Kanter or Knight.

If I remember correctly, the site did not update the mock until after lottery was determined despite major player stock changes that were being discussed on ESPN etc. Knight dramatically improved his stock from final 4, so it wasn't just about the Jazz picking 3rd.

Chard Fords article puts all of this in context, Knight is in Tier 3 based off what he's been told by scouts/GM's and some feel he is potential tier 1 or 2 guy down the road, BUT, he occupies that tier with the other positions of need, so I'm not sure why you feel the Jazz are PG crazy, instead of looking to take the BPA available which I believe at #3 is Knight based off what's been said and what I've seen of him and other players.

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I agree with whoever said they thought knight to be overrated

I just am not hie on him based on what I have seen. He really does not finish well near the hoop to me at all. He is just a streaky shooter who can do like a Chalmers type job. Maybe he proves me dead wrong, but this draft is weak with him being consider so hie. I am just not convinced. I think I like Jimmer and his suspect D more than Knight. I think he has more skills and PG ability. I still think Jimmer will struggle on D. Jimmer will be better at the PG than Knight IMO and a better scorer.

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