Why are only international players considered draft and stash?

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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 12:43pm #49470

cornegg
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Ever year late in the second round teams draft nobodys who play for low level teams in Russia Serbia(Izzet Turkyilmaz Chukwudiebere Maduabam Tanguy Ngombo Ater Majok Chinemelu Elonu Emir Preldzic Henk Norel
Why can’t they draft a college senior stash him in Spain and bring him in a year or two years later such as Kyle Singler
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 12:58pm #785330

cornegg
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That is what the dleague is for but then any team can sign your draft pick
The Spurs let Marcus Denmon go to France to develop
http://www.hoopsworld.com/report-spurs-believe-in-marcus-denmon/
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- Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:09pm #785334
  
  KHAM83
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  If you actually draft the player, I “believe” you own his rights period, protecting another team from picking him up from the NBDL.
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- Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:09pm #785398
  
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  If you actually draft the player, I “believe” you own his rights period, protecting another team from picking him up from the NBDL.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 12:58pm #785394

cornegg
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That is what the dleague is for but then any team can sign your draft pick
The Spurs let Marcus Denmon go to France to develop
http://www.hoopsworld.com/report-spurs-believe-in-marcus-denmon/
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:01pm #785318

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Kyle Singler’s situation was an anomaly. He got drafted right before the lockout and decided to go overseas like a bunch of other people. Instead of leaving his new team in the middle of the season when the lockout was lifted, he decided to stick it out until Alicante’s season was finished.
But yes, you do raise a good idea, but isn’t that what the NBA D-League is for?
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:01pm #785382

akhan786
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Kyle Singler’s situation was an anomaly. He got drafted right before the lockout and decided to go overseas like a bunch of other people. Instead of leaving his new team in the middle of the season when the lockout was lifted, he decided to stick it out until Alicante’s season was finished.
But yes, you do raise a good idea, but isn’t that what the NBA D-League is for?
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:03pm #785336

jjbutler73
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Most 2nd round picks start out overseas and the team that drafted them retains their rights.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:03pm #785400

jjbutler73
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Most 2nd round picks start out overseas and the team that drafted them retains their rights.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:27pm #785408

pohani komarac
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because those international prospects usally have contract with their clubs
NCAA players don’t have contracts, they need to sign one
So you can’t draft somebody just like that and asume he will get contract somwhere. Usually It’s expected when you draft someone from NCAA you will sign him.
Good to see more and more young americans drafted go to europe after draft, not wasting time on NBA bech or D league. Patrick Beverly is great sample of smart choice.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:27pm #785343

pohani komarac
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because those international prospects usally have contract with their clubs
NCAA players don’t have contracts, they need to sign one
So you can’t draft somebody just like that and asume he will get contract somwhere. Usually It’s expected when you draft someone from NCAA you will sign him.
Good to see more and more young americans drafted go to europe after draft, not wasting time on NBA bech or D league. Patrick Beverly is great sample of smart choice.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:42pm #785416

FutureNBAGM
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Singler did it mostly because of the lockout. As for international guys, sometimes its about wanting to save a little money for salary cap reasons at that time or they just dont have the room or the need for a player so they’ll draft him and let him continue overseas until they feel they need him.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:42pm #785351

FutureNBAGM
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Singler did it mostly because of the lockout. As for international guys, sometimes its about wanting to save a little money for salary cap reasons at that time or they just dont have the room or the need for a player so they’ll draft him and let him continue overseas until they feel they need him.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:43pm #785422

Tongue-Out-Like-23
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“because those international prospects usally have contract with their clubs
NCAA players don’t have contracts, they need to sign one”
This.
Not to mention, it’s a lot easier for someone drafted from France to want to stay in France if he knows he’s not going to get playing time rather than someone who was born and raised in California to go play in Turkey for 2-3 years.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 1:43pm #785357

Tongue-Out-Like-23
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“because those international prospects usally have contract with their clubs
NCAA players don’t have contracts, they need to sign one”
This.
Not to mention, it’s a lot easier for someone drafted from France to want to stay in France if he knows he’s not going to get playing time rather than someone who was born and raised in California to go play in Turkey for 2-3 years.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 4:12pm #785461

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the timberwolves told Robbie hummel he should go overseas and work on his game so they didnt have to renounce his rights, if he didnt voluntarily do it they would have cut him and lost his rights but he agreed with them and he went overseas. So it is rare and it takes trust on both sides to do that and there is nothing holding either side accountable if they break the agreement.
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Posted on: Tue, 05/28/2013 - 4:12pm #785526

phila9012
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the timberwolves told Robbie hummel he should go overseas and work on his game so they didnt have to renounce his rights, if he didnt voluntarily do it they would have cut him and lost his rights but he agreed with them and he went overseas. So it is rare and it takes trust on both sides to do that and there is nothing holding either side accountable if they break the agreement.
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