Whos gonna be the next star player that some fans think the knicks will get
ok we all have seen the millions upon millions of knicks post about who they WILL get
kevin durant -is very possible when his contract is up
lebron- wears a yankee hat and says he likes ny
bosh- says he likes ny
few said dirk is a option
few said shaq was gonna sign
so in the next couple of months-year who do you think will be the next star/good player to be a sure thing to go play for the knicks?
my bet is on yao ming
lmao, your thirstyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy !
no some of youre fans are thirstyyyyyyyy for a player..lol
LMAO no point in this smh
Lebron James in 2014.
oh yeah lebron in 2014 i agree..and wall
lol, I understand what your saying, as a Knick fan I can tell you I agree. "We" tend to get a bit hyped once we hear a player might be on the move.
But almost all those names were linked to another team as well, Lebron, Bosh, Wade, JJ, and Rudy Gay were all "linked" to Chicago, New Jersey or the Clippers. It happens, point is, Knick fans aren't the only ones to do that. Every fan base links an 'available' player to there team...why when the Knicks do it, it becomes front page headlines?
I will admit the main thing is theres so many knicks fan.
If there was 20 versions of clippers on this site (theres only one Clippers fan though) wed be thinking Clippers fans are crazy.
I guess it just seems that Knicks fans think this is a knicks forum basically and since theres so many knicks fans it &$#%#&@! people off like stanford.
I agree @ MagikKnick
stanford is a hater and he hated on my post but I am not even a Knicks fan
I know a lot about them and yeah because my homie is a Knicks fan I want them to do good but right now they actually have a chance to be good because i am honest about my teams and other people's team and for the past few year New York has sucked and had no chance of winning too many games and they had bad contracts. Right now they only have one bad contract that can be trade now since it is last year and they have tons of youngs players and a star type player. They actually have a decent point guard after having Marbury: the bad years and Duhon.
If this was any other team and they went from Duhon to Felton, most people would say that is a huge upgrade but if you say that about the Knicks, you are a Knicks fans and Felton is not that much better.
Are you serious? Felton is not a huge upgrade over Duhon.
This is not saying Felton is an All star but neither should Mo Williams but somehow he made it. Felton to me is maybe a few notches down from Mo Williams and he may be a slightly better play maker.
If I told people Mo Wiliams would average 20 pt and 9 assists for New York, most people would say sure because he has done close to that for a Cavs teams that plays at a slower pace at times and also does not give him the ball all the time.
We will see because i hate that the season is so far away
If a player isn't going to the Knicks..... they have to be going to the Yankees. LOL
yeah but only some of the knicks fans were saying "this player will come here" and they didnt seem to realize that those players were linked ot other teams. its like they saw the teams that the players were linked to and when they saw the word knicks all the other teams just vanished.
its actually not even just this fourm, on rivals and scout.com knicks fans are just as crazy and some are wayyyyy over the top(a couple ready to fight if you dont agree with them).
the biggest problem i have is if you dont agree with them then you must be a hater..examples
when i said sergio was a backup or third string at best then im a hater
darko has had many chances and isnt that good yet some knick fans said he just wasnt given a chance and will show me how wrong i am because now hes playing with d'antoni, then called a hater
after tmacs good game i said dont get too happy because its one game and you gotta wait and see how his knee holds up-hater
the knicks wont resign david lee and get lebron and bosh-hater
George W. Bush
If he was coming off a better year he would be mentioned also.
The reason you percieve that and that some knick fans get overhyped because this is the media capital of the world and everything that happens, every rumor, gets reported 46756786556 times more than it would anywhere else. Therefore the knicks make the most headlines, rumors etc. You cannot blame some fans for getting excited if it is all over espn, nba:com, newspapers, etc. If knicks fans really do annoy you, blame the media. If you think its annoying dealing with knick fans, imagine being one where everyday there are dozens of articles promising you something that probably won't happen. A good deal of us are down to earth and take everything with a grain of salt because we are used to it, however since the fan base is so large you will always find people that take these media ploys too seriously.
On a side note I don't see how anyone can call this a bad summer for the knicks, they upgraded at basically every position and if the jersey didn't say NY on the front a lot of the people hating would agree with me. Unlike last year, when the knicks were desperate and starving for a savior, we now have a nice young roster and an all star, so most reasonable knick fans aren't as desperate for a huge signing. For 2 years every day the papers and espn bombarded is with this nonsense, its tough for even the most reasonable fan not to fall for the hype.
The knicks are a playoff caliber team now and whatever star decides to come here can come knowing that this team will be ready to compete right away because a core is already set for them.
The hater thing might not necessarily be you but knicks have always had a target on their backs from smaller city fans mainly because they have struggled so much lately and still get a majority of the attention. You have to admit that the knicks get an unfair share of crap from other fans, they aren't the first team to have a rough patch and everyone seems to enjoy kicking the ciry of NY when its down, maybe its because it doesn't happen that often.
i think my only real complaint about there off season was the trade they made last season jordan hill, a 1st rounder, and the rights to swap another first rounder all so they could get jeffries off their books who only had 1 more year himself anyways. They gave up potentially quite a bit there with the hopes to clear space for 2 stars. They didnt get 2 stars thus i think they would take that deal back if they could.
Also, if you told the knicks that they would only get 1 star player, and that player would be amare stoudemire and it would also mean losing david lee, do you really think they would have been real happy with that scenario 6 months ago?
Plus amare counts as a star player... at least he did until he came to the Knicks....and would have been had he not went to the knicks. But since he's a knick he's an overpaid injuried bum that needs nash. Overpaid when outlaw get 35 million dollar contract?!? When darko got 25???! Lee got 80, Rudy got almost 90 , amir johnson got 35, joe johnson got likee 125 and the only contract people hate one is the one the knicks gave out... shocker. Stop bringing up that lebron didn't come, miami signed the 3 most coveted free agents and those douches couldn't passbup on playing with their buddies, it is very argueble that amare is the 4th best free agent )I actually like him more than bosh but that's me), so you can't really say the knicks had a bad summer.
cant really blame them for taking a shot. All teams dumped a lot bulls gave away hinrich and a mid first rounder for free, nets gave away yi, passed up on beasely for free, heat cleared EVERYTHING, imagine if they struck out. Plus I never really liked jordan hill and don't see him as that big of a loss.
As for this summer, would I have liked more? Sure... but I am satisfied because amare will be a serious upgrade, lee was becoming overrated and stuffed his stats a bit, plus he is very undersized and as unimpressive as amare is on defense, lee might be the worst defensive big man in the nba. I like the value they got for lee and think they will at least compete for a playoff spot this year, which already makes me happy. The best part about this summer is regardless how much people hate the amare contract it basically didn't affect their flexibility and keeps options open to add that final piece to make the knicks a contender. I like the amare deal and because of the market out there id rather have him than a boozer and a jordan farmar. Those 3-4 million they paid more than clearly worse pfs got makes zero difference especially considering I expect them to be over the cap soon anyways and the MLE can bring a better player than that change they could have saved.
Lilperez, the trades that Knicks made were questionable but if you look at the upgrade of their current roster, they did not lose much. Jerome Jordan is better than Jordan Hill. Anthony Randolph is better than Jordan Hill. I personally wish they would have either signed Jennings, Holiday or moved up to get Curry but it did not happen. Bill Walker should be a very solid player and Gallinari should show fans that he was worthy of a lottery pick not to long ago. Chandler will improve. Knicks actually have too much depth which is always a good thing. They also seem like they could do good to move players in trades for a better fit if they want.
I have had to talk to my friend about a lot of the Knicks moves and some I would have never made but I understand why they did what they did and that trade with GSW made a lot of stuff they did that looked bad not seem as bad.
I still have visions of a Curry Melo Gallo Amare and whatever big man line up that will never happen
That team would have had firepower for days but Knicks went a different way.
They also could have drafted Stephenson, Ebanks, Lawai, and Caractor.
If New York can get Melo without giving up both Randolph and Gallo and get him before next season, every misstep will not seem as bad. So far New York did not screw up and overpay anyone like a lot of team did. Felton's deal gave them flexibility. They have a lot of players that only have a year left.
They have no one on their roster older than 29.
is the next savior for NY! I really dont see the knicks worth a shite in years and years. Amare will miss 25% of the season, and the rest of the team are not starters on 90% of the NBA rosters!
You make some very sensable points and I give you credit for that and you speak for the Knicks fanbase well giving out a much more positive point of view. Although I do think Knicksfans have to take another approach and view at this sensitive situation altogether.
Listening to the media is not a practice, like religion. It is not something you must do, and if you hear "CP3 WANTS TO GO TO NEW YORK!!", you have to sit back and think about the extrordinary person Chris Paul is, the fact that his marketability is too high to simply give away when you could continue to sell tickets with him for 2 years, the fact that they can still make him happy by trading Collison and the main fact that this is just like every other rumour you heard, just a rumour.
The hater thing does exist, straight up. This is not because the City of New York is so great and everyone is envious of it that when they do not succeed we have to exploit and ridicule them. It is because the Knicks fans are so judgmental upon every aspect of the game due to the fact that you care so much and really have nothing to cheer for. So when you start cheering for your false hope and a reasonable fan strikes it down it can result in an arguement and put a bad taste in both parties mouths. The reasonable fan does not forget this, and I'm sure it will just make the Knicks fan fight harder to prove his/her point.
Overall I would say the Knicks did improve and look to be competitive going forward. The one rumour that could come true is a Melo to New York deal. Good old Syracuse boy coming to suit up for the Knicks and wear more Orange does seem pretty realistic. Dantoni seems like a perfect Coach to help take Anthony take another step and the whole wedding situation...
So at the end of the day...
-NO it is not the media's fault that "we" not just Knicks fans pay attention so closely and keep paying them it is our fault.
-YES haters are present and unless you just learn to give them a reason not to hate they will keep on hating (myself included).And they can hate all day long baby just shout and let em know.
-YES the Knicks did do good in Free Agency and when rebuilding it doesnt all happen at once. Those Draft Picks would not have an immediate rebuilding effect. So why is waiting for Carmelo wrong. If they land Melo everything went as planned and I don't see why come Free Agency time for Melo anyone else would even be on his radar as top dog, although NJ, WAS, SAC could give some problems to NY faithfulls so dont grip on this one potential signing.
P.S. by reasonable I do not mean Knicks Fans are unreasonable compared to anyone else. I tried to edit reasonable and replace it with "common" but my access was denied.
And no "reasonable" fan would ever say the Stoudemire signing was worse than the JJ or Gay signing. The fact is there are so many Knicks fans, and they eventually praise the signing, so then a common fan will eventually explain that the signing is not actaully the ideal move, and as that happens so many times it looks like "hatred" or it looks like we dislike the deal more than others.
Yes Amir went for 35, JJ for 125 and Gay for 90, but the Knicks were targetting them as 2nd options after the 1st tier which were Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. Considering those three players each got roughly, 14Mil and Stoudemire got maxed out without even bringing a 2nd top tier FA there it is a bad signing. Acquiring Melo thou makes it a great signing so IMO for now it is still pending and undoubtedly something they had to do. It may not be alot better than keeping Lee but it sure looks better for other FA's like Carmelo and looks better for the media so it is a huge upgrade to the orginization.
I never said that you must listen to media, but with such a huge fanbase and articles like "cp3 said he wants to join melo in NY" you are bound to have people who take it too literal.
The Chris Paul thing could still happen because, he does not really want to be there but also does not want to look like a villain considering the state of things down there but I figure it would not happen anytime soon because, New Orleans had 2 years but after this season when has some leverage, he could be gone and if New York has Melo and some pieces they have a chance but I doubt they get both Melo and Paul. Melo is the guy I was calling out because the media took off with it. I know I was the first guy saying it. No many people considered Melo until that extension thing came up.
and yeah bkballer youdo have some fans that take the chris paul thing too literally or if any player says they like the knicksyou have some fans that overhype it.For some knicks fans all it takes is one lil thing. when melo didnt sign the extension you had a couple of knicks fans take that as they WILL get melo. when parker was talked about being traded and someone asked him if he liked the knicks and he said yeah the same fans said it was a done deal instead of sitting back saying they hope they get him
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