If they get the first pick, will they chose Irving? They have Calderon who is a 10 assist guy every night and Bayless who is explosive, quick and a good shooter with some upside. So would they really NEED Irving? If they pick outside of the 2 spot, I think they get a big whether it be Kanter, Montiejunas, or Vessley.
Calderon is not a 10 assist guy every night, and can be quite inconsistent. Bayless, imo won't get much better. I think he can be a good 6th man. I'd definitely go for Irving if he's available, espescially with this draft class looking weaker now.
*potential 10 assist guy every night
who are they trading ll mago for? After that you should have a better idea. I think they will get a swingman for him and in the draft they should go for a center, Jonas,Bismack,or Kanter.
You really want to keep your two mediocre guards instead of drafting Irving? I agree that Calderon and Bayless could be worse, but they could be A LOT better. Did you happen to see the Raptors record this year?
oh man lions, if oh canada sees u brought up Biyombo, he's going to lose his mind
The team is rebuilding. You can't base the future of your franchise on jose calderon.
If Irving is there, we should take him.
I think Bayless has star potential. But you have to draft Irving regardless. (unless you think Derrick Williams is better)
Irving would be a great fit with that team. They would have him to go with Bargs and Ed Davis up front. DeMar DeRozan, Sonny Weems, Linus Kleiza on the wings. Reggie Evans is a great backup rebounder, Joey Dorsey is a rebounder, shot-blocker, and dunker. Amir Johnson is solid. Calderon would be a good backup point guard, and Bayless would be a good backup combo guard or a shooting guard if they go small with Irving and Bayless. I like them more as an up-tempo team. They don't really need a back to the basket center. This is probably the best fit for Kyrie Irving.
Raptors should draft kemba walker..this guy is a born leader who can score at will and get hi teannates involved..trade bargnani and jose...and try and bring in marc gasol through free agency...I have no Idea why Kemba is suppose to drop to 15..he is better then irving
The most dominant player in this draft is Kanter, that cannot be questioned. Bismack Biyambo is one of the most overrated prospects ever and you people thinking he deserves to be drafted by Toronto should be ashamed. Do your homework.
1-Kyrie Irving- Top class PG, very good floor management, no real weakness throughout his game, good at everything including perimeter defence.
2-Derrick Williams-Gives defense effort, is a great athlete and a versatile forward who can give minutes at the 3 and 4. Andrea Bargnani practically plays a SF role on offense by coasting on the perimeter and driving to the rim sometimes posting as well. Williams could play that role while driving more often, and posting more often, and also while gaurding the oppositions SF, and having Ed Davis and hopefully a true C on the floor. Williams gives the Raptors no let up in trading Bargnani and actaully is a better fit for the system.
3-Enes Kanter-The most dominate Euro player at his age quite arguably ever. If he played in college this season there is little to no doubt in my mind Kentucky would have been NCAA Champs and Kanters name would be called 1st overall. The issues with Kanter are the fact that he would prefer to play PF as the only reason is he is listed as a C is a recent growth spurt. Kanter has not played much basketball in the last 2 years at a competitive level so he has not quite adjusted to his hieght and people question if he has matured his game. Kanter has had tendonitis and knee surgery which makes him an injury risk of some sort.
4-Jan Vesely-People on this site may not know but this may even be a better fit then Williams. Toronto has a strong need for a SF who is willing to play some defense, stick shots, get out on the fastbreak and really just make intangible reads and hustle plays. Thats what Vesely is all about. Just ask any Jazz fan how valueable Andrei Kirelenko is too that team because that is his draft comparison. With so many available C's in free agency taking a unsure shot at a possibly injury prone Kanter, an unready Valanciunas, a overrated Biyambo may not a good idea.
5-Jonas Valanciunas-For a kid his age he shows great potential. Soft hands, great shooting touch, and excellent hustle. He is like Marcin Gortat or an offensively polished Andris Beidrins (potentially). he could easily be another Euro prospect who does not fulfill his potential.
I had to give a +1 to what OhCanada said. That's exactly how the Toronto Raptors board should look like come draft night and go from there. The problem with the Toronto Raptors is that we don't really have a sense of direction and we have a GM that says he wants to win now then another time says we're rebuilding. We have to set a game plan and stick to it.
i think big man is the the most urgency need for them right now, they need to get some present inside and they must decrease the dependence in Bargs, who should not be the number one big at all, so i think with their situation Kanter is ideal pick and if they get the first pick maybe even to trade down couple of spots, Kanter will be perfect for them, he could first of all lower pressure from Bargs and his role - somthing that could do him great and put him in better position to succeed, also Kanter who is versatile fit well with all others Toronto bigs, he could serve as a rebounder and a banger next to Bargs and could serve as more of a scorer and outside shooter alongside Amir or Ed Davis!
so i think if Raptors stay in their current draft spot at #3, Kanter is perfect match for them!
I would like to see Kyrie Ivring as a Toronto Raptor. I personally feel the city toronto always get ripped by the draft and free agency. I remember in 2006 when the raptors got the first pick in the draft, the city was so excited about that time with Brain coming and stuff, but really and truely we got ripped no real players in that draft. For Instance, that was the year of Durant or Oden out of HS, one of them should of been a Toronto Raptor, instead we drafted the Italian Pasta. I know for a fact the Raptors will get the First Pick with a slight chance to cleveland. Look out for Cleveland they will get two top five picks, watch the NBA controls everything.
The Current roster: Jose is a good back up no offense to his game and he's the right guy to mentor Ivring with any of the lottery teams. Jose turnover to assist is amazing. Knock on wood for his defense. I like the wing for the Raptors Demar, James and sonny are nice. Adding someone like Ivring would put the Team in a great position for major growth. Ed Davis is the only big i personally like on the Raptors, he rebounds, block shots and he showed solid improvment on his offense late last year. The Italian Pasta is to soft for defense growth in this league and he need to be traded to a team in the west that could use him as a four. Bayless i think he's showing the rest of the league what he has as a player. i think Bayless is close to been as good as DRose. If he commit to been a top nouch pg he could be a top pg. I think Brain would trade Bayless to a team were he can be himself but he's going to do it for good value only.
I know Bayless Growth would help, but the Raptor need a pass first pg. that's why bayless would not be the perfect for the raptors.
Uh does Toronto really need to draft another European? I'm all for Kanter but I don't want to draft any 7 footer left handed Bargnani 2.0's.
Toronto needs a banger in the paint, wingman, or point guard. Simple as that, best player available.
Kanter IS a banger in the paint, and he could be the solution inside. That doesnt mean he should be picked instead of Irving. Potentially great pg's dont come by very often.
Lol they come by all the time nowadays. Every other draft theres a potentially great PG. Sometimes theres two in one draft.
D-rose, john wall, westbrook,CP3, D-will. Yeah they dont' come often lmao how many great centers have come in the last 10 years
so were calling Kanter a great center?
Im calling him a great prospect. Hes always been that and I dont know whats changed to say he isnt one.
Im not doubting that and from all accounts hes dynamite but having missed the opportunity to showcase himself at Kentucky this year, I cant be sold on him just yet. You're right, there has been a recent glut of very talented 1's, so the Raps should chance for theirs.
You said potentially great PG's... Kyrie Irving, Rubio was potentially great and still is, as is Curry, Rose, Westbrook, and Wall. Thats 6-potentially great PG's since the 2008 draft, not just good potentially great. If we were to count all the goood PG's it would be a headache, and I could also get greedy and throw Reke in there as well.
Now lets look at the potentially great C's, I know I do this every year...but every year Im right. You have Enes Kanter, Brook Lopez who is really better suited as a PF imo but Ill throw him in there just so its unbias, and Demarcus Cousins. None of those 3 are even true NBA Center's lol. It is the hardest position to fill, anytime you get the chance to draft a player who is a projected NBA Center with Kanters skill I dont think it should be passed up. Skilled Centers is where its at.
I personally wouldnt have passed on Cousins for anyone last year, and wouldnt pass up on Kanter this year.
I probally overrate NBA Centers though.
i see your point. You're obviously VERY high on Kanter and its not without warrant. Whats your take on that 'the other side of Kanter' vid then, he says he wants to prove his skills on the perimeter. Should this effect how we view him turning out as an NBA player?