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Who will the Knicks pick?

The Knicks have been hard to read.

First they seemed enamored by Faried and his rebounding prowess.

Then Selby seemed to be their target with the 17th pick.

Now they are said to be extremely high on Darius Morris but he may have worked himself into a higher pick.

Chris Singleton? I know he is a potential defensive stopper but i dont see him as a great fit for the Knicks.

Shumpert also worked out well for the Knicks. He shot an impressive 17 of 25 from 3, easing some doubts about his shooting ability.

A great draft for the Knicks would be if Darius Morris fell to us at 17, We buy one of Chicago's late 1st rounders to draft Faried or Tyler if either falls and maybe try to get our second rounder back from LA to grab Shumpert to see if he can work himself onto the team.


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I said this from day one, we

I said this from day one, we need to move down and add a extra pick. Alan Hahn also said we will buy a 2nd round pick. My dream scenario:

  • Knicks trade 17th pick to Chicago for 28th and 30th pick
  • Knicks buy the 46th pick from the Los Angeles Lakers

28th pick- Keith Benson, C, Oakland- Long shotblocker, who can also get some rebounds and play defense. Should be a backup year one.

30th pick- Iman Shumpert, PG, Georgia Tech- Long defender, proved he can shoot a little bit and handled being the leader of GT, even thought they weren't as talented.

46th pick- Willie Reed, PF, St. Louis- Underrated, project. He can score and get some rebounding, but need to grow a bit.

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I think 17 will be between

I think 17 will be between KThompson, MBrooks, JSelby, and DMorris

Then assuming we get a later 1st/early 2nd, probably target Jeremy Tyler or Nikola Vucevic

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I think you're reaching for

I think you're reaching for all 3 players. I really like Shumpert but I dont know if he will ever be a PG so I wouldnt risk a first round pick on a mediocre SG.

Benson is a similar, less polished player than Jerome Jordan who we already have. He is also not worthy of a first rounder.

I dont know much about Reed but I think better prospects could be available in the mid 2nd round.

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Jeremy Tyler would be a good

Jeremy Tyler would be a good pickup if we could buy a late 1st rounder.

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why would you ever NEED to

why would you ever NEED to move down from the 17th if this is one of the weakest drafts in the last 10 years... there will be players that fill their needs at 17... moving down is so stupid for the knicks..

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I forgot about Jerome Jordan

I forgot about Jerome Jordan honestly, what's his status? Is he coming over to train with us?

My thinking is this: We should go get developmental talent. D'Antoni won't play alot of rookies anyway. Fields was a dime a dozen for us. I think once D'Antoni leaves next season, we will have guys who can help develop in the NBDL this season, then play next season. I think if we did the move down, I think Shumpert is a solid pick, but I wouldn't be mad if we took Cory Joesph either. I'm high on Willie Reed, I think he needs a season of NBDL.

  • 28th pick- Trey Tompkins
  • 30th pick- Cory Joesph
  • 46th pick- Willie Reed or Scotty Hopson
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why would you ever NEED to

why would you ever NEED to move down from the 17th if this is one of the weakest drafts in the last 10 years... there will be players that fill their needs at 17... moving down is so stupid for the knicks..

No it's not, the Knicks need guys they can groom and develop. I think there is no ideal option at 17 anyway.

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I think Boston is taking

I think Boston is taking Jeremy Tyler.

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Trading down for picks 28 and

Trading down for picks 28 and 30 isnt a good move. Buying late 1st or early 2nd rounders is very common so there is no need to give away pick 17.

I've heard Jordan is supposed to come over this year. He cant be a downgrade from the production we got from our centers last year.

If Morris is gone at 18 i would really like to see the Knicks fill a need and draft Faried. We always get caught up in potential and star power but the Knicks finally have stars and just need to fill gaps now. Faried should be able to get minutes at PF and play Amare at the C. Faried could come in right away and average over 10 rpg which is more than Mozgov, Turiaf, and Jeffries combined last year.

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I'd like

Josh Selby, Marshon Brooks or Darius Morris in a knicks uniform, and they should find a way to get Jeremy Tyler in their hands, too.

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I'm saying it now: Kenneth

I'm saying it now: Kenneth Faried is Reggie Evans. I think he isn't as good as people think. He's 6-7 and I don't think has the skills of a Ben Wallace. I don't like it. The league is different to me, I think AT BEST he's a backup who can give you 7 rebounds a night if he gets 30 mpg.

I hope Jordan is a good backup for us, I still think we should go inquire about Samuel Dalembert first.

Like I said before, we don't have a 2012 1st round pick AND whatever rookies we draft probably won't even crack the rotation, so I rather have a couple developing players in the NBDL then one guy.

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Anthony Stoudemire Turiaf Wil
  • Anthony
  • Stoudemire
  • Turiaf
  • Williams
  • Billups
  • Douglas
  • Fields
  • Walker/ Brown

Who's moving out that rotation for the 17th pick?

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Only Anthony Stoudemire Bill

Only

  • Anthony
  • Stoudemire
  • Billups
  • Douglas
  • Fields
  • Walker
  • Turiaf depending on his player option

are returning rotation players. Jerome Jordan is supposed to be coming this year. Rautins will be a reserve.

C-Jordan, Turiaf

PF-Amare

SF-Melo, Walker

SG-Fields, Douglas

PG-Billups

If Faried plays well he could take minutes from Turiaf who is not a very good player. Jerome Jordan may also not be ready to play significant minutes so Faried could see time next to Amare in the post.

Ideally we could get Morris and Faried

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How can we get Morris and

How can we get Morris and Faried? Morris is probably going late lotto and Faried will be gone by 27 at the latest IMO

I'll say this now, I don't think Faried is better then Turiaf to be honest. I just see a average dude who can rebound alittle bit. He's alot like Reggie Evans.

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in all honesty i think they

in all honesty i think they should move up in this years draft to about number 10-13 if you ask me. and draft jimmer fredette or a stud (or what should be stud) PG. and we do have pieces to move up there. i say give either fields and the 17 pick up to get there or tony D to get there. and why do i say this, well simple logic. they have 2 superstars right now on the team in melo and amare. well, if they trade to get a PG, A) thats our pg of the future and chauncy is a good player to help groom a young PG. thats reason one, reason 2, is next year the Knicks are going to be a top team in the East. so they are going to get a low pick in the draft. however, next years draft is suppose to be stacked from top to bottom. so lets say they recieve pick number 23-28 or around there, they will be able to still get a solid pick then too. so i say move up this year and trade this years pick and either landry fields or tony D.

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I still like the deal with

I still like the deal with Chicago as a few people have suggested, Chicago perhaps want one more better quality player whilst the Knicks need bodies. The Knicks could be in the mix for Singler and Smith from Duke at 28 and 30 but ideally they need a big.

With Darius Morris having perhaps moved up they could maybe target Markieff Morris who is still well within their draft range and could give them useful size in the frontcourt. Chris Singleton again would be a safe choice but as a SF/PF he plays the positions of their franchise players although under D'Antoni players always play slightly different roles.

Biyombo may be in their draft range but Coach D'Antoni is unlikely to play a raw rookie and the Knicks may not be the best place for him to develop,

Selby could still have good upside but if Phoenix do draft Jimmer then might Brooks become available and the Knicks could target him.

Tyler is a wildcard for the Knicks and at 17 might be a reach but he does have the size and if he could do the defensive role then he would do his required job. Jerome Jordan has had a year abroad to develop so might come into rotation.

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I still like the deal with

I still like the deal with Chicago as a few people have suggested, Chicago perhaps want one more better quality player whilst the Knicks need bodies. The Knicks could be in the mix for Singler and Smith from Duke at 28 and 30 but ideally they need a big.

With Darius Morris having perhaps moved up they could maybe target Markieff Morris who is still well within their draft range and could give them useful size in the frontcourt. Chris Singleton again would be a safe choice but as a SF/PF he plays the positions of their franchise players although under D'Antoni players always play slightly different roles.

Biyombo may be in their draft range but Coach D'Antoni is unlikely to play a raw rookie and the Knicks may not be the best place for him to develop,

Selby could still have good upside but if Phoenix do draft Jimmer then might Brooks become available and the Knicks could target him.

Tyler is a wildcard for the Knicks and at 17 might be a reach but he does have the size and if he could do the defensive role then he would do his required job. Jerome Jordan has had a year abroad to develop so might come into rotation.

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I also like the Chicago deal.

I also like the Chicago deal. They don't need more (potential)star players, they need guys who ar comfortable playing off stars and can complement them. moving down to 28 & 30 would be a good move. they could grab Jeremy Tyler who runs the floor very well for a big, and has the length and athleticism inside to disrupt shots on the defensive end. Him next to Amare with Jerome Jordan backing up would be a major upgrade as far as rim protection. Then at 30 they grab either Nolan Smith or Shelvin Mack. both of these guys are gym rats who also have the swagger to handle the big stage and come from winning backgrounds at the college level. They showed that they can play next to star players(Irving, Hayward), but also both are leaders who had no problem stepping up and taking control when those star guys were hurt or left.

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Why would you trade the 17th

Why would you trade the 17th pick when you can most likely buy a late 1st or early 2nd? Makes no sense at all.

Faried is not like Reggie Evans. Faried is much more explosive, athletic, and he has heart and determination. Evans is soft. Faried may never be a great scorer but he will slam an open attempt and not miss a layup like Jeffries. I guarantee with 25+ mins per game he will grab 9+ rebounds. How do you think they are alike anyways? Offensive deficiencies? Hairstyle?

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There's no legit player at 17

There's no legit player at 17 that isn't that much greater then players at 25-30. Unless Jordan Hamilton and/or Bismark Biyombo is there, I don't think the talent is that much greater.

Also, Evans isn't soft, I really don't know what you mean there. Evans is a solid backup power forward, who's undersized, plays defense and grabs rebounds. That's about it. Faried is 6-7, grabs rebounds and plays good defense. I honestly don't see Faried handling a Al Horford, Dirk or Blake Griffin at the next level. I will stay by the fact he won't be a good player in the NBA. At best a backup like Reggie Evans. He's also very foul prone, not a great free thrower shooter PLUS he played in a below average conference.

Like I said, he's not gonna be good. You wanting NY to take him at 17 is a mistake.

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IF and thats a pretty big IF

IF and thats a pretty big IF to me, but Klay Thompson would be perfect for the Knicks. I think if hes there, the Knicks gotta take him and develop him into a starter or even the Knicks 6th man. Landry Fields seems to be an amazing 2nd round pick but who knows if hes going to be as good of a starting 2 as what he once seemed to be. Thompson has the jumpshot that the Knicks really need for the 2 guard position. He also has the size to shoot over alot of shooting gaurds. I really dont think the knicks want to take a big man with the 17th pick. It really doesnt make sense because whoever we draft there wont be giving us great minuites anyway with Amare playing most of the game.

I see it as the Knicks taking either Thompson, Brooks, Selby and lastly Morris if hes there (which doesnt seem likely)

Also, the Knicks should and probably will end up buying/trading for a late first or early second rounder. They did that when they got Tony Douglas and I think they will do the same when they look for a solid backup big man anywhere between 26-34, would be my best guess. Maybe Faried slides a little further down then expected? Or Tyler or even Biyombo?

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IF and thats a pretty big IF

IF and thats a pretty big IF to me, but Klay Thompson would be perfect for the Knicks. I think if hes there, the Knicks gotta take him and develop him into a starter or even the Knicks 6th man. Landry Fields seems to be an amazing 2nd round pick but who knows if hes going to be as good of a starting 2 as what he once seemed to be. Thompson has the jumpshot that the Knicks really need for the 2 guard position. He also has the size to shoot over alot of shooting gaurds. I really dont think the knicks want to take a big man with the 17th pick. It really doesnt make sense because whoever we draft there wont be giving us great minuites anyway with Amare playing most of the game.

I see it as the Knicks taking either Thompson, Brooks, Selby and lastly Morris if hes there (which doesnt seem likely)

Also, the Knicks should and probably will end up buying/trading for a late first or early second rounder. They did that when they got Tony Douglas and I think they will do the same when they look for a solid backup big man anywhere between 26-34, would be my best guess. Maybe Faried slides a little further down then expected? Or Tyler or even Biyombo?

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IF and thats a pretty big IF

IF and thats a pretty big IF to me, but Klay Thompson would be perfect for the Knicks. I think if hes there, the Knicks gotta take him and develop him into a starter or even the Knicks 6th man. Landry Fields seems to be an amazing 2nd round pick but who knows if hes going to be as good of a starting 2 as what he once seemed to be. Thompson has the jumpshot that the Knicks really need for the 2 guard position. He also has the size to shoot over alot of shooting gaurds. I really dont think the knicks want to take a big man with the 17th pick. It really doesnt make sense because whoever we draft there wont be giving us great minuites anyway with Amare playing most of the game.

I see it as the Knicks taking either Thompson, Brooks, Selby and lastly Morris if hes there (which doesnt seem likely)

Also, the Knicks should and probably will end up buying/trading for a late first or early second rounder. They did that when they got Tony Douglas and I think they will do the same when they look for a solid backup big man anywhere between 26-34, would be my best guess. Maybe Faried slides a little further down then expected? Or Tyler or even Biyombo?

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my bad didnt mean to post

my bad didnt mean to post that 3 times

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I wouldnt mind Klay...but hes

I wouldnt mind Klay...but hes a little one-dimensional for my taste

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No it's not, the Knicks need

No it's not, the Knicks need guys they can groom and develop. I think there is no ideal option at 17 anyway.

u kidding? u dont think one of daruis morris, josh selby, faried, singleton, wont be there at 17 for them??? theres gonna be a huge drop off in talent around the 20th pick...

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I agree with esperanza. There

I agree with esperanza. There is a huge drop from 17 to 28. Trading down is useful when you take something like the 5th pick and get the 12th and 16th back where you can stull get lottery talent.

At 17 you can draft someone who slipped out of the lottery.

I wouldnt be upset if the knicks drafted Selby but I dont think he is the right fit for us. He needs to go to a team in need of a scorer. The Knicks arent in desperate need for another scorer.

I think that Darius Morris would be a good fit. I like scouting prospects with crazy athletic ability and unbelievable stats but Morris is a solid player who can lead a team and distribute the ball. He also is too big to be pushed around by opposing pgs.

Im not very high on Klay Thompson but at least he has an NBA skill. I think he is too one dimensional and better options will be available.

I think Faried would be a good fit with the Knicks. We need a post player who can average double figures in rebounding. He is also an energy guy. We dont need a great scoring post-player, just someone who can make a few easy interior shots.

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This draft is full of role

This draft is full of role players, I don't think there is much difference. it's all about opinion, but there are some nice guys who are being touted as 2nd round picks right now.

If we stay at 17, I would love Selby, Morris or Singleton. Those are the three I would like if we stay there.

Ideally, I see this as a good role player draft. I think if we moved down and grab some guys I think we could have two nice role players who could fit opposite Stoudemire, Anthony and whoever they bring in after the following season. We have nice cheap contracts like Fields,Douglas and Jordan ( IDK) there. I think the Knicks stay at 17, but I much rather leave with two more prospects.

Why not move down and buy a couple 2nd rounders?

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What dont you get? WE DONT

What dont you get? WE DONT NEED TO TRADE DOWN! We can acquire picks in other ways.

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What dont you get? WE DONT

What dont you get? WE DONT NEED TO TRADE DOWN! We can acquire picks in other ways.

CALM DOWN!!!!!!! Noone said we need to move down, I suggested it. You can disagree, but it's my opinion and people agreed with me, so relax, we all have different opinions.

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I just dont get you man. If

I just dont get you man. If we can buy an additional 1st rounder, then why would you keep suggesting trading down? Even if we cant get back in the 1st round then we should definitely be able to buy an early 2nd rounder.

You keep suggesting trading down for 28 and 30 when we could probably buy a pick from Chicago who may not want a guaranteed 1st round contract on their books.

Isnt 17 and 30 better than 28 and 30?

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I like Brooks at 17 and they

I like Brooks at 17 and they can buy some picks and possibly add Shumpert and any big man left. I think Fields is a better off the bench player anyway or you could have Brooks play the Jamal Crawford role off the bench. Remember Jamal Crawford was a beast in D'Antoni' system before he got trade and Brooks is being compared to him to some degree.

Selby is nice but is he a good enough play maker that he is not slightly worse or better than Douglas at point guard. I also want a look at Jeremy Tyler. Klay Thompson would also be nice but Brooks seems like he could be more effective than Thompson. You have Shawn Wiliams backing up Melo. Knick could use help bk pg or future starter after Billups is gone. They could stand to have a more reliable 2 guard. I like Fields but he fizzled and is not a natural scorer but a do it all type. Fields may develop into a Wilson Chandler type but Brooks seems perfect for this offense and he has athleticism and long arms for defense. Jeremey Tyler can get minutes a the 4 and 5 and should be ready from the jump because of his oversea experience. I am actually wanting Tyler to be picked more than the other because he could be feel a more definite need. Knicks can hold it down with fields and Brooks at the 2 but they are hurting with the big men they have.

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But who said Chicago doesn't

But who said Chicago doesn't want that extra pick? Who realistically wants to sell a 1st round pick?

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late 1st rounders are sold

late 1st rounders are sold all the time. Most of the time they are teams with a full or near full roster or a contender that do not want to give a guaranteed contract to a rookie who will probably not contribute.

Its pretty common.

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The knicks will not trade

The knicks will not trade down. there is no need to. you can get a draft pick very easily all you need it $$$$$$......its very simple the knicks need to get 2 role players in this draft that will be depended on greatly

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The knicks will not trade

The knicks will not trade down. there is no need to. you can get a draft pick very easily all you need it $$$$$$......its very simple the knicks need to get 2 role players in this draft that will be depended on greatly

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I still feel NYK can move

I still feel NYK can move down and still pick up good players. This is a role players draft for me.

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