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Who Will Have a Better Career? Jan Vesely or Derrick Williams

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Who Will Have a Better Career? Jan Vesely or Derrick Williams

As a Wolves fan I am hoping for D-Will, but he is really struggling lately.. I have been impressed with Vesely lately.. He seems to have a lot of potential to be a nice all-around player...


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If Derrick Williams adjusts

If Derrick Williams adjusts to the small forward position he will be fine. He has been really inconsistant this year though. I think he will turn it around and be better than Jan.

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Vesely right now has NO

Vesely right now has NO offensive game: he can't dribble, can't shoot, can't really drive, has no post-up moves.

But he is playing hard, jumping for loose balls rebounding, blocking shots, making open dunks and tip-ins. That is a great sign to me, it shows work ethic, I think he can improve very much, I still see him more of an agile PF than SF.

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Vesely right now has NO

Vesely right now has NO offensive game: he can't dribble, can't shoot, can't really drive, has no post-up moves.

Vesely is role player and always will be. He needs smart and organised team so he could be efective just like one he had in Europe under Vujosevic. It's not do to lack of skills or anything. It's his game and insticts

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He was taken about 5 spots

Williams easy. Vessely was taken about 5 spots too high. He has the potential to be a good pick and roll player like David Lee some day if he works very hard. Don't see his post game or jump shot ever developing into a useful weapon.

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I see Vesley more as a PF

I see Vesley more as a PF then a SF. He just isn't that skilled, and would be better suited as an energy player coming of the bench. I can't wait to see who the Wizards draft, but who ever it is has to be able to shoot the long ball. John Wall, Seraphin, and Vesely are all good prospects going forward, but none of them can hit a shot?

I think that Williams will be a better player based off of the skills he already has now. He's been very inconsistent, but has shown that he can be a good three point threat, rebounder, and spells trouble in the transition game. If he can refine those skills and become a better man defender he will be a great player to play along side Love and Rubio.

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i think

i think when rubio comes back williams will start playing better again but i think jan vesely has the most potential because of his body and length and work ethic

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I think Williams needs to

I think Williams needs to take a leaf out of Josh Smith's book and drop a bit of weight over the summer and replace it with lean muscle if he wants to succeed at the SF position. While I like Vesely as a Serge Ibaka type player down the road, I think Williams will be more successful by far, it just might not be with the Timberwolves.

For whatever reason, Wes Johnson is still starting at the 3, and Williams is getting most of his minutes at the PF spot, which obviously isn't ideal. However, Beasley is the real thing holding Williams back, they are both very similar, and neither has been able to gain any consistency with playing time or position with Love in and out of the lineup.

If the Timberwolves give Johnson to someone, let Beasley walk, move Webster to the backup 3, Williams to the starting spot, and have Randolph back up Love at the PF, then it will be in everyone's best interests. Especially if they can convince OJ Mayo to sign for a reasonable price.

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Kawhi Leonard should have

Kawhi Leonard should have been drafted at Vesely's spot.

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Williams reminds me a lot of

Williams reminds me a lot of Jamison, but hard to see him as more than a 6th man on Minnesota. The dude's a 4.

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I think Williams will. One of

I think Williams will. One of the reasons he's struggling is because right now there is a logjam at the SF position and he is competing for playing time with Michael Beasley and Wesley Johnson (who I think is turning into a bust.) Once they trade or get rid of these two I think that will make things easier for Williams as he will be playing a consistent amount of starters' minutes.

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Vesely plays a lot like

Vesely plays a lot like Anderson Verajao, in my opinion. I doubt Vesley will ever play minutes at the center position, but I feel they have the same kind of instinct without the ball and on the glass. I think Vesely still has the potential to be a better offensive player, but often young guys find a nitch and don't expand their games in other directions.

I think at the very least Vesely will be a guy who averages a low double double ( 10/10) with a steal and a block.

Williams is a curious case, to me, he's had some great games (27/8, 22/10) but he's had some stinkers too. That isn't unusual for a rookie. Inconsistancy and low FG% are things that are fairly common in rookie players, but Williams is too in love with his 3 point shot. He took 9 against Denver and went 0-6 against the Pacers the other night and I don't feel that's a good thing in his case. I don't think he found his spot with the Wolves and it might take a new team, or a roster shake up for him to maximise his potential.

I think Williams can be a 17 or 18 ppg player who can grab 7 or 8 boards in the process, but he needs to cool it on the 3 point attempts. Part of what made him so effective in college was the fact he was very conservative with his 3's and shot an amazing %. He needs to take a step back, this offseason, and go back to what he's best at. Gettting to the FT line and hitting smart jumpers when guys don't respect his range....Not every NBA PF is willing to stay tight on someone at the 3 point line, he'll continue to have the shot, he just needs to be smarter.

I think Williams will have the better career, but they are two very different players. Vesely is probably a guy who can play on just about any team and do the dirty work, while I think it might take Williams some more time to find his nitch and a team where he can flourish.

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Varejao is one of the best

Varejao is one of the best help defenders in the league. If Vesley is close to that he's worth his pick... but I don't see it.

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^Comon' man, I'm not implying

^Comon' man, I'm not implying that he is as good as Verajao now. I said he plays a lot like him. If you remember Verajao as a rookie, he was not one of the best help defenders in the league, but he developed into one.

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I totaly agree whit you

I totaly agree whit you Joewolf... Williams was really great from the 3 point at the college but he taked like 1 or 2 3 point per game... But he was very hypped as a great 3 point shooter when he was draft that its why he shot too much from that distance in the nba

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This Derrick Williams

This Derrick Williams situation (and the Evan Turner situation to a lesser extent) is what frustrates me the most about teams simply taking the BPA in the top 5. Both of these guys are number two picks who have been unable to get off the bench because there are NBA veterans ahead of them, what is the use of spending a 2nd overall pick if you don't need the player?

It doesn't help the team, and it can seriously stall the career of a young guy. What's worse is that Williams and Turner are guys who played multiple years in college, so they can't afford to ride the bench for too long if they want to live up to the expectation of a 2nd overall pick.

Minnesota has been acquiring young talent for far too long and have a logjam at almost every position.

Philly started the rebuild but took a player with their 2nd overall pick who has some of the same key similarities and weaknesses as their best veteran.

Just think how much better off the Sixers would be if they'd taken Cousins or Favors. If Minny had taken Cousins instead of Wes Johnson, if Minny had traded down for a real shooting guard instead of locking up Williams for no apparent reason.

I think it's because so many GMs are criticised for taking players who fill a need that don't work out over guys who have excelled - i.e. Darko over Wade, Bosh, Melo, Greg Oden over Durant.

So many second overall picks have been busts because they've come into the NBA as backups behind other relatively young players and been unable to learn from their mistakes in limited and often inconsistent minutes.

@JoeWolf; Varejao is exactly the sort of player I can see Vesely being, except a lot more athletic offensively and on the break. Joakim Noah also comes to mind.

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This Derrick Williams

Totally agree with omphalos.

Given the choice, i think Vesely has his position, he is a PF. Williams is a tweener, better for him to go SF, if possible. At this moment Jan is in more confortable situation to go for a better carreer.

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what are you blind son? Who

what are you blind son? Who is going to be better Andrew Luck or Kellen Moore? lol Derrick Williams is a potential league MVP Veseley is a guy

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