Who do the Pistons need?
Big Pistons fan here...I gotta say I'm pretty puzzled as to who the Pistons take this year. Obviously they'll have a top ten to top five pick this year but I'm having trouble processing who or what they'll be targeting this year. Clearly they need help in their wing play...Rodney Stuckey and Kyle Singler are not going to get the job done, but do they take a risk in taking Shabazz Muhammed? Maybe even Oladipo? Hell do they pick Trey Burke or even another big man in Cody Zeller? Please give me your thoughts on what you think Detroit should do in this years draft.
They will take a wing player but they NEED a long term pure point guard. Burke would be perfect and would make that frontcourt explode finally. The Pistons are one of the three most intriging teams in the lottery...
Do you think they aren't capable winning with B Knight as their PG? Realize also that Brandon Knight is also just a year older than Burke. Having said that I disagree. I believe that Burke will be a solid pro but for the Pistons long term and short term they NEED wing help this year. I just don't think their long term solution is in this draft which is why I almost believe they should go with Oladipo for defensive help and also to add some much needed athleticism at the 2 guard position.
My Pistons Draft Board
1. Trey Burke - With Calderon most likely not in the long term plan, and Knight being more of a combo guard, I think Burke would put the best PG prospect in the class with Detroit's two best assets ( Drummond and Monroe ). When you have twin towers like those two, getting a legit point to go with is ideal for rebuilding and Detroit has the potential to do just that. Knight could be packaged, play minutes at both guard positions or become a 6th man and Burke is good in the pick and roll and shooting off the dribble, two things that indicate he could be ready to play big minutes in the league fairly soon. I think it's too early to give up on Knight, but using him differently might be the key to his success.
2. Otto Porter - The Pistons have to great pieces to build off in Drummond and Monroe, but I think adding a versitle do it all small forward, in Porter, would provide good size and versitlity at the position. Having another high caliber passer and ball handler at the Sf position would facilitate ball movement as Knight still isn't a true point guard ( I doubt Calderon is going to be around much longer).
3. Victor Oladipo - Oladipo would be a great fit in Detroit. He could be the high caliber, disruptive defender Prince was in that system for a decade. He would be a nice contrast to Knight or Stuckey at the Sg position and could play two positions on offense and guard 3 positions on defense. With Oladipo, it's not getting a team need, it's about getting a ball player that can do it all.
I really like your choices here. The Pistons have a lot of options in this upcoming draft. They should take whoever they like best from the 1 to 3 position. Porter might be a perfect for here. A Georgetown who can produce and create on both ends of the floor is never a bad choice to me especially for this team.
But that wouldn't clear out the point guard question. I totally agree with you that Brandon Knight should be given time to develope. Look at how John Wall improved with a reliable jumper. I know Knight is not the passer Wall ist but Knight was called a good shooter before he got drafted and couldn't back this up till today on a consistend basis. Maybe his position is really the 2 guard spot but lets wait and see what happens with one more offseason, a few pounds of muscles and a healthy tandem of Monroe/Drummond offer to his offensive game - or if the Pistons really can land Burke.
Lawson and Jrue Holiday needed a few years to become All Star caliber players and maybe Knight won't reach this level but he still so young and not grown into his body.
To me Oladipo and Porter would be both great additions. The only way they could less this draft up is to draft a big to alienate Drummond or Monroe or give up just yet on Knight.
What the Pistons really need is get rid of players like Charlie V and Stuckey. They haven't done anything for this franchise and in case of CV you just shouldn't be allowed to get paid millions if you are playing completely out of shape for years.
They need to bring back hard nosed D and athletism to MoTown. The Fans deserve a team with ambitions, talent and grit. I really hope they find a good coach like Budenholzer from the Spurs or Brian Shaw would be a nice coach too. The Zen Master will help them find a way...
Yeah, Those two don't fit. I think Stuckey is the odd man out there, and CV is in the twilight of his career. Stuckey has improved a lot since his rookie year, but I don't think he's a good fit in Detroit and they may be able to get a decent player for him in return. I feel another need for Detroit, since the emergence of Drummond, is another center or power forward. Maxiell isn't under contract next year and I feel packaging Stuckey and CV for a PF or C and letting Maxiell walk would be ideal.
Thanks for the feedback! I would agree with you on Burke but I just don't believe he'll be a great playmaker in the NBA however his penetration and his threat to the defense on the perimeter could provide openings to the 2 bigs in the post. I fully agree with you in terms of Brandon Knight. I actually hoped Marcus Smart would enter the draft so Detroit could snag him up and throw him in the backcourt with B.Knight, freeing Knight up by allowing Smart to be the facilitator and having him guard the 2's. And as far as Porter I agree he would also be a great fit, another high IQ guy to keep the ball moving in that offense and who can also play some D.
I like Knight coming in and he's what like 21? The NBA has a lot of combos that are doing well playing both guard positions and coming off the bench as high minute 6th men. Knight may not be a starting PG in the league, but he may be a guy who can play two positions and drop 15 ppg in 30 mpg spelling the PG and SG positions. He kind of reminds me of a poor man's George Hill, right now, but he's so young I think his best days are ahead of him. Playing him like SA used Hill, both alongside and spelling Tony Parker, seems like a good way to use him and give him minutes to develop, but also giving him some room to ease into the position NBA point guard.
Dumars pretty much want to resign Calderon and Bynum, so I dont think he's giving up on B. Knight just yet. Also, Pistons will have a lot of money to spend on free agents this summer so possibly they will try to get Josh Smith.
They need a player who can played some defense and can shoot, or just be a scoring threat. I think they should draft two shooting guards, my choice would be Oladipo and in the second round or trade up for Archie Goodwin from Kentucky.
Like all NBA teams, they need to upgrade their bench.
But in the first round, drafting a scoring swing would be nice.
Otto Porter would be a nice fit?
In the second round, best player available.
Actually their "bigs" look pretty good, Drummond, Monroe, Maxiell, and Jerebko. And Singler wasn't too bad. Hopefully they can re-sign Calderon?
Not too sure about Knight?
If at all possible, I would package Villanueva and their 1st rounder for Danny Granger. This draft is weak so its unlikely they get a difference maker unless they move into the top 3 as I think burke, oladipo, porter will all be gone by the 7th pick. Although Granger is an injury concern at this point, he only has one year left on his contract so its not too much of a risk if it doesn't work out. Indy doesn't know how Granger fits into their future plans with stephenson and George so he's definitely expendable. If Granger can back healthy he'll be a good wing scorer and will help space the floor for drummond and Monroe. Getting rid of Villanueva would be great for the pistons too.
As a Pistons fan, I was thinking about this earlier. I think we should draft either a PG or SG. I don't see how the Pistons will not be in the lottery next year unless they majorly revamp their roster. The draft next year should have some amazing SFs so I really think we should focus our attention on getting either a PG or a SG. Knight is slowly developing but I still don't think that he has the court vision to be a starting PG.
Yeah I think Stuckey isn't going to work in Detroit and could actually be worth alot more to a winning team. But I think there's no way Detroit should pull the plug on Brandon Knight. For one he's only 21 years old with room to grow. Two, you know what you're getting from him. That's not something you can say about Burke. I don't think his ceiling is high enough as a prospect to take that high when you already have a solid PG to build with in Knight and positions in greater need with equally talented if not better prospects. As far as Charlie V tho I think nobody in their right mind would take even his expiring contract. He's a washed up 7 foot below the rim three point shooter who doesn't seem to provide much leadership either. Not something many teams are looking for
Jaycee24 you have a good analysis on your team overall, but you gotta let the knight as a pg thing go lol. He does not have the court vision of a full time pg. If he is gonna start at the 1 for your team, you better have great distributors at your other positions ala the Heat and the 2012 Thunder...
Hmmm the pistons dont need to draft by need in this draft... They have depth in all position. They maybe dont have a futur starting point guard but in a weak draft like that they need to take the best player available.
triple post :P
they have a nice young core in place.depending on where they pick though,they could take a chance on a tall pg like carter williams to pair with knight in the backcourt.they are gonna be in the lotto again next year so they might as well not waste a pick on this years wing players.its better for them to roll the dice on a chance to get wiggins,or parker,than draft a guy like bazz or porter.not taking carmelo/bosh/wade because they had guys at those positions will always haunt them
I really like Otto Porter if they can get him. He is a ball player. He can do just about everything you need him to do on a basketball court. So you bring in Porter make some moves to get another big to come of the bench. In next year draft I'm sure they will be able to get a point guard or another good wing player. They are good right now with Knight, Monroe and Drummond. They just need to add around that young group of players and they will be moving in a good place.
I really think Knight is their point gaurd for the future. They should try to draft Otto Porter, and give a big contract offer to Tyreke Evans. That way Knught can still play PG while Tyreke does what e does best and handles the ball. I jut feel like tyreke will be able to bring the whole team together with his talents. With Knights and Ottos shooting ability, teams won't be able to help off his drives, and then he would have Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond to drop of to in the paint or for ally oops if bigs help. Then you can decide if Rodney sticky wants to be the 6th man or trade him for other pieces.
I think that is a very dangerous and young well balanced team.
You really think if they draft a wing they are going to pass up on takin anybody of that caliber in next years draft?
Of course they won't...even if a big prospect like Julius randle they would take even though they have Drummond and Monroe.
no.im sure they would still take a wing,but what would the point be?thats a david kahn type of move lol.i seriously doubt they would take randle
I agree with Joe Wolfe..Trey and Otto..Knight is not a true point guard he reminds me of Larry Hughes. Trey will distribute the rock and sell tickets since he Played for UM. Also Porter seems like a Piston to me. They need to get rid of Stuckey!
I would go with Oladipo. He would bring some defense and energy to the team and help bring back the classic Pistons Bad Boys identity. Kyle Singler could be the shooter/scorer on the wing to complement Oladipo.
Now if Otto Porter is a great DEFENDER then I would take the defender with the most size and length.
But, I like Oladipo's toughness and upside. I think he a type of guy you need to win. If he is turns into a rich man's Tony Allen (with a jump shot) then I think that would be a great fit for the Pistons.
Oladipo is the safe pick and again for insurance I'll draft Archie Goodwin. Pistons do have a true shooting guard!! Stuckey not consistent shooter, can create for himnself but leads to turnovers often and defense is suspect. Piston played Singler at the two when he should of stayed at the three spot. Pistons need a true shooting guard, dump Stuckey, English and Charlie V!! And sign Josh Smith, resign Bynum, Calderon ans Maxiel. They should be in the playoffs this time next year.
The Pistons have the core set what they need is support from the bench, youth with the leadership of a few veterans not all D-1 players are a definite pick for the draft D-2,D-3,NAIA the difference between a lot of these kids are a number 1,2,3, This kid is a D-2 player played at Tulane under Dave Dickerson and then went down to University of West Florida in Pensacola, Fl
Apperently they dont teach english at UWF.
I like Otto Porter for the Pistons provided they cannot get a shot at McLemore and I agree that Oladipo would also be a solid choice. I'd prefer them to get an established PG if they want to move Knight across to SG. They can amnesty Charlie V perhaps and sign an experienced front courter also to compliment and help mentor AD and Monroe.
I am not a big Stuckey fan but he did well in last couple of months of the season coming off the bench. In fact their second unit actually won them some games (Bynum, Stuckey, Drummond, Charlie V, Jerebko)
Stuckey is a 6th man and he is happy and good at that role. Knight still believes he is a starting PG. Remember when most of us had going at 3 to Utah in the draft ? Yes he has that sort of talent and is willing to work - he is still young and needs time to develop.
I got negged a few weeks back for suggesting we go after Tyreke Evans but I reckon an Evans / Knight backcourt would be great.
Draft possibilities Porter, Oladipo. The pistons are also under the salary cap so they could make a push to get Iggy or Corey Brewer. Gerald Henderson is a possibility.
If the Pistons get Tyreke:
- He'd be the main ballhandler.
- They'd need wings who can spread the floor.
- Otto Porter will probably not arrive with a polished jumpshot (though I believe he'll develop in few years).
- I like Calderon and/or Bynum filling the PG position off the bench.
- Knight/Stuckey would share time playing as off guards.
The last point is what doesn't convince me. How about signing someone like JJ Redick?
Brian Shaw could be a good fit as a coach. I think the triangle can be implemented in this team. Monroe is a good passer... and maybe Drummond adds some interesting stuff to his repertoire this offseason. Probably still not a playoffs team next season.