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Is This who Anthony Randolph is?? Is This what Perry Jones has to look forward to????

He has shown flashes of good play ( does this ever year) but then he seems to revert right back to a inconsistant player. Is this who he really is??? I know there will be some fans of his who thinks maybe he should go to yet another team or get even more time and then those who think he just isn't that good and shouldnt get more time. He's been on every team you can imagin that gives you every chance to put up big numbers but he never does except for a few flash in the pan games. Is this gonna be what we have to look forward too with Perry Jones???? Stay tuned


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He's never got a chance to

He's never got a chance to develop, he didn't play in Golden State and he didn't play in New York. He needs real PT to see how good he is, so hopefully by the end of this year we see his true talent.

And yes, this is what I think Perry Jones will be, he just doesn't have the killer instinct to take over a game. He's also to skinny to cover PF's and smaller SF's are probably faster than him off the ball.

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Even if your comparison is

Even if your comparison is correct which IMO it really is not, Jones has so much more drive and hardworking pertsonality, let alone basketball IQ then Randolph. I doubt Jones will have consistancy issues.

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Delfam even as a SF Perry

Delfam even as a SF Perry Jones is very quick. The advantage maybe other SFs getting "lower" then him with their body position but not quite quickness.

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^ that's what I kinda meant

^ that's what I kinda meant is they can get lower than him and use their body. Still not sure if Perry Jones has the drive to be good and take over. I mean Baylor has the most talent in the country and aren't going to make the tournament, that says something about Jones.

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Yeah Perry Jones has been

Yeah Perry Jones has been praised for his work ethic and he's been better than Randolph as a Fr. (going by how they looked at the same stage) too. Randolph hasn't gotten much better, if at all, than when he 1st got to the NBA. Jones has made some noticeable improvements since HS, and even since the non-conference slate. I think it's safe to say Jones will have a better NBA career. He is EERILY similar to Randolph physically and in terms of how they can operate (although Jones is bigger and more of a combo forward than the "point forward" Randolph fancies himself as), but Jones has been talked about as a hard worker. When has Randolph and hard work ever been put together in a sentence? Probably never, besides putting "is not a" before hard worker.

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"I mean Baylor has the most

"I mean Baylor has the most talent in the country and aren't going to make the tournament, that says something about Jones."

Maybe, just MAYBE, they don't have the most talent in the country.

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^ there up there, who would

^ there up there, who would you say has more?(Texas,Duke,Nova?)

Work ethic and killer instinct are totally different. Just because Jones is a hard worker off the court doesn't mean he can put it together on the court and have that killer instinct. I see him as maybe a 2nd or 3rd option on a team.

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"I mean Baylor has the most

"I mean Baylor has the most talent in the country and aren't going to make the tournament, that says something about Jones."

NO THEY DON'T

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What does Anthony Randolph do

What does Anthony Randolph do better than most in the leauge???

What does he do so well that he desrves PT???

I'm asking because I haven't seen it and maybe I have missed something...

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Also, since he got to

Also, since he got to Minnesota, he got 2 games with over 10 points....

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Boxn1, He deserves PT cuz on

Boxn1,

He deserves PT cuz on our squad (T-Wolves), outside of K-Love no one has really gotten it done. We are a mediocre team so from there your goal should be to grow as a team and find out what talent you have on ur squad. If he doesn't get PT, then you will never know what type of player Randolph is or can be.

I could understand your point if we were competing for a playoff spot, but we are bottom dwellers in the West and have been ever since KG left. This team has plenty of growing and building still left before we become competors in the West.

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I wonder if Kahn is stupid

I wonder if Kahn is stupid enough to have Randolph and Jones on the same team? I think he is and really dont doubt it for a second. That would be funny.

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Anthony Randolph

I shake my head each time people say he had no PT at Golden State. It's true that Don Nelson is hard on rookies and young players, and it's true that his bench players would see 20 minutes one game and 0 minutes the next at times. However, A-Ran had plenty of opportunities. Last season the Warriors had season ending injuries for Wright, and long stint of injuries for Turiaf and Biedrines (they eventually shut Biedrines down). The playing time was there for him to seize at GSW he just never seized it. The Warriors didn't want to play Chris Hunter and Tolliver over him (NBDL / 10 day contract players) but he was foul prone, turnover prone and was out for an extended period of time for injuries that other players would only miss a few games. He was routinely seen in the club partying it up in season (way more than most of the other GSWs). In fact the GSW had to change their policies because he was continually seen around town in the bars and clubs while his team was on TV playing. Anthony Randolph has a lot of talent, but I'm tired of people saying he wasn't given a chance to play at GSW. The last 3rd of the season we routinely suited up 8 players and 2 before mentioned10 day contract guys. He was the type of player Don Nelson tends to like: A player who has good court vision for his height and some handles for his height. But too often he tried to make the spectacular play instead of the right play, he only looked to block shots not play defense and sulked on the bench. I laughed when people thought he would have a better opportunity for the Knicks. How could a player with his skill set have a better opportunity than the free style of Don Nelson? Is D'Antoni's offense really that different? He may have matured in Minny and it's quite possible that things can change for him because Nelson has a reputation of being quite frankly an &$#%#&@! but Randolph screwed his opportunity at GSW. As far as Jones because of his spot in the draft I think he is the biggest risk but also the biggest rewards. It's unfortunate that he chose Baylor because he needed to be coached a more disciplined style and Drew lets him do whatever he wants. His NBA isn't going to give him the same freedom and it's going to be an adjustment. Hopefully it doesn't take a couple years or teams to figure it out as it hopefully has taken Randolph.

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Heres the thing..You give

Heres the thing..You give anyone more PT and they will put up better stats but thats not realistic because there are players playing ahead of that guy who are actually better. If you can't out play the guy ahead of you then you are not gonna get more PT. So its not as simple as " just give this or that guy more PT. Manny Harris has more PT with the Cavs as well as Samario Samuels but that doesn't mean they have arrived it just means there is no one ahead of them that will take there PT. Anthony hasn't been able to out play anyone at his position no matter where he has played at and thats gotta tell you something. You don't just GIVE a player PT it is earned and when that player plays he has to help the team more than he hurts the team

As far as killer instinct he doesn't have it nor does Perry Jones have it. Perry does have a stronger work ethic from what i've read but he also has long stretches during the game where he is a non factor.

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IMO if you wanna see if a

IMO if you wanna see if a player can be a starter in this league, once in a while dudes gotta get 30+ minutes to see how he plays after gettin in the flow of the game. 20 minute games are filled with spurts anyone who has a bench role plays differently than a starter. Bench players need to be ready to come in and get into the flow of the game quickly which is often difficult. So to see if a player can be a starter, you need to see how he performs in that position.

And when he does throw a game out there of 19 and 10 in like 25 minutes, that makes you wonder and merits the opportunity to recieve 30+ minutes once in a blue moon to see what you have in that player. Its not like he has never performed and they are just giving him minutes. He has earned them to some extent.

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You get 30min by earning it

You get 30min by earning it not just putting someone in the game without earning it. He's had minutes before and more often than not he doesn't do much with it and hurts the team

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baylor players dont play smart..

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Baylor players high skill low

Baylor players high skill low basketball IQ and bad defenders

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Perry Jones is more Rashard

Perry Jones is more Rashard Lewis than Randolph to me but maybe i am wrong. Also Randolph has shown some promise in GSW and when he got minutes in Minny. Some people take longer to get it all together. It took Jermaine O'neal and Bynum almost 5 years.

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Perry Jones is more Rashard

Perry Jones is more Rashard Lewis than Randolph to me but maybe i am wrong. Also Randolph has shown some promise in GSW and when he got minutes in Minny. Some people take longer to get it all together. It took Jermaine O'neal and Bynum almost 5 years.

I can see that. MANY people forget Lewis had a post game in Seattle until he went to Orlando.

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If you mean that Perry Jones

If you mean that Perry Jones doesn't live up to the potential and hype just like Randolph - then I agree with that.

Alot of ppl had Perry Jones as the no 1 pick for most of this season - I just can't see him being a star which is what most ppl have been saying for months....

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I don't like Baylors PG's at

I don't like Baylors PG's at all which has a huge effect on ALL their teammates production. They're called floor generals for a reason. Best one in the game today is Steve Nash followed closely by Billups then its Rondo, followed really close by Paul. Again, this is if were talking "Floor General" not the best overall PG. A pg who makes his team better then the sum of its parts. Perhaps Jones was told to "buy into a system" when he arrived? Jones has been on his own for huge chuncks of games. If you let him get agressive he can make good things happen... he won't turn it over nearly as often as Randolph (who I'm still a huge fan of). I think Jones is a confidence player. When he got to Baylor maybe he was just one of those guys who doesn't deal with new things well and takes a bit of time to get adjusted.? When he starts feeling comfortable and gets a good routine going his production picks up. Barnes seems similar in nature (although not starting the season in good shape also hurt). Perry Jones could be a KG with handles and a 3 point shot.

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I love Perry Jones, and think

I love Perry Jones, and think he has worlds of potential, but having said that I see way too many flaws with him. When I saw his highschool numbers and his win loss record, it had me wondering. Now that He's made it through a large portion of his freshman year, he's still showing to be a guy who just does not dominate a game, albeit a team with Lace "the blackhole". He reminds me a lot of Jared Jeffries when he was younger with Washington. Blends into a game with far too much regularity and likes to handle the ball, but doesn't have a particularly good jumper to take advantage. Doesn't have much of a motor. He should really stay a few years and develop.

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Honestly I haven't seen

Honestly I haven't seen nothing from Perry Jones to indicate he is or isn't an Anthony Randolph clone. Randolph played with that grit and agressiveness too at LSU and went it with the bigs in that league. He's (Jones) been better than I expected though however this year, as his HS production really was scarin me a lil. But with a guy like that, I guess it matters what team he lands on and how he is groomed. But he'll have the same positional issues Randolph somewhat has, as well as the "what is the ONE thing do you do well enough to stay on the court" question asked that has plagued Randolph. You can get away with that in HS and on the collegiate level and still be effective, but in the league, this question is magnified. But I guess only time will tell, we'll see.

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I said it before the season,

I said it before the season, A.J. Walton isn't a truly good starting Big 12 PG. For Baylor to have been as good as they were ranked to start the year, Walton would have had to make smart passes, defend, and make spot up jumpers. But instead he gets you 3 TO's a night, plays bad D, and is a mediocre shooter. The reason Dunn was so good as a Jr was because Tweety Carter took care of the ball, could shoot, played solid D, and was efficient from the floor as a scorer. Dunn has been forced to carry Baylor, and he's not a well-rounded enough scorer to shoulder a huge load for a winning team. You generally don't want to heap a huge load on a guy who literally has 75% of his offense come off jump shots.

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I've seen like 7 Baylor games

I've seen like 7 Baylor games this season and I haven't seen Perry Jones make a shot beyond the free throw line once.

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Heres some of what NBA

Heres some of what NBA scouts told hoopsworld

The bigger questions surrounding Jones have to do with his game. He's six-foot-eleven with long arms, which is always a plus, but many scouts have questioned his work ethic. He has a reputation for taking plays off and some have wondered if he's truly passionate about basketball. Jones has drawn comparisons to Derrick Favors because he has played well in spurts, but is attractive largely because of his potential.

One scout that watched Jones play several times this season didn't come away impressed.

"People call him the best athlete in this class, but I've come away disappointed each time I've seen him play," said the scout. "Its one thing to question the holes in his game, but his athleticism is supposedly his biggest strength. I don't know if he's not playing to his full potential or what, but I haven't seen the athlete that people rave about. He's extremely hard to peg. If he truly is the best athlete in this class, then this is a very weak class in terms of athletic players."

Jones is a physical specimen that can be great player once he begins to tap into his potential. But his freshman season at Baylor was very average and it followed a largely disappointing senior year at Duncanville High School. This scandal shouldn't affect his draft stock, but it's another question mark surrounding the prospect that was already difficult to evaluate.

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Jones' athleticism isn't his

Jones' athleticism isn't his biggest strength though. His biggest strength is his ability to operate in the triple threat from the high post. Just because people have said his athleticism is his strongest trait, doesn't mean you should come away disappointed because he's not as athletic as word of mouth suggests. The scout that said that should just scout himself and pick up on his actual strengths from his own eyes. That's a pretty shaky way of scouting a prospect IMO. I'd like to think that Scott Drew, who sees him work all the time, would be the person to listen to when it comes to his work ethic anyway. All around faulty report IMO by hoopsworld.

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