Which team has done the best so far
For me it has been the Boston Celtics. People tend to forget that Jeff Green is apart of this team and bringing him back makes them one of the most versatile teams in the league. Then you bring in a solid vet like Jason Terry who brings it every night and has the same attitude and belief as teams. Having champion chip experience and brings instant offense.
For teams such as the Nets , I understand the fact that you want to surround Deron Williams with talent and insurance. I just cant grasp the fact that you trade away a great shooter, and a decent defender for a player that I feel as though wont fit in to great in Avery Johnson's system. Not even mentioning his massive contract, OJ mayo would have fit in perfectly and give you the option to keep improving your team. Or Why not go for Josh Smith or Al Hortford ?
Like to hear Thoughts and analysis on teams
Agree about Boston - Ray Ray not withstanding.
Nets are 50/50. That Johnson cantract could be an albatross.
Phoenix is actually doing better than I would have thought at this point.
Can't say L.A. is in too bad of shape now.
Big losers might be Dallas and Huston. Not sure where either will be going now. New York is not in trouble, but have not moved foreward much.
And as disapointed as all Raptors fans are right now...keep in mind the old business saying "sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make".
Depends on the way you look at it.
You could argue that Atlanta is by shedding the contracts of Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams, but then again... They'll no longer make the playoffs.
You could argue for the Nets considering nobody thought Deron Williams would re-sign with them. I thought he was going to Dallas for sure.
No wrong answer just wanted to know a different perspective
Okay the Celtics have done well but its not because Jeff Green returning he's nothing special esp. in the half court.
Its Jason Terry and the draft picks that make the difference because Terry is instant offense and can score when they go through scoring droughts.
Also the draft picks give much needed size and help to KG.
I think the Spurs need to make a move. They are just getting older while the Big Four (OKC, Miami, Boston, Lakers) all added some good pieces this off-season. The Spurs look great in the regular season (last year) and through the early playoff rounds (this year), but for all their depth they really only have 3 scorers (Duncan, Parker, and Manu). I really like Kawhi Leonard but I am not sure how much Stephen Jackson has left. Tiago Splitter was exposed, and DeJuan Blair appears to be on his way out.
They will probably resign Danny Green and he is a nice player but not much of a difference maker. He is more of a deep rotation guy. The Spurs need to look at adding another player inside and a fourth option on the wing.
At this point, they are clearly behind the Thunder (more experience, plus PJIII and Maynor coming back from injury), and the Lakers. With Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Steve Nash, Pau Gasol, and Metta World Peace, the Lakers might not need a bench. Even so, how is a Steve Blake, Andrew Goudelock, Devin Ebanks, Matt Barnes, Josh McRoberts, and Robert Sacre bench vastly inferior to the Spurs' bench? The Lakers bench is closer to the Spurs bench and the Bulls bench (another purportedly "deep" bench) than one might think. And if the Lakers can pick up Grant Hill then LA could have one of the best, if underrated, "bench mobs" in the league.
Quick question... How did you get -474 points in less than a month? Just curious.
No Idea! Was + 30 day before draft, and apparently lost 500 points on the mock I did not update the night before. I can't see it being much worse than average. I guess I have no idea how the whole system works.
The advantage of being -470 is that I don't have to give a @#&* as to what peole think of my posts.
The hawks were huge winners Danny ferry managed to clear up 90 million dollars off their books easily which is good because that team was going nowhere but first round exits of the playoffs each year I think Joe Johnson is a good fit in Brooklyn he gives deron the #2 go to scorer and Gerald Wallace does the little things the nets gave up Anthony morrow who is a great shooter but nothing else and a washed up Stevenson for an all star
They got Steve Nash for a Lamar Odom trade exception. They are much better, I don't no if they move well enough off the ball the capitalize having Nash but they will be better. The towers down low allow for Nash's defensive weakness. They desparately need a couple athletic slashers. Jordan Hill is twice as good a player with Nash on the team.
Lakers and the Suns, LA just became a contender. Suns are reloading pretty well themselves for a new youth movement.
I agree with your Celtics assesment, and not just because I'm a fan of the team. They got a steal in the draft with Sullinger, and a decent back up big in Fab Melo. Both of these guys add size and inside presense to a team that lacked it all year, while also making the team younger.
Signing Garnet for half of what he was making, bringing in Terry, Green, and possibly someone else if Allen leaves (Camby?) is just a great haul for a team that was in the ECF last season. Not sure if they will have enough to make it past the Heat, but I have no doubt in my mind it will be Heat/Celtics again.
The losers of this year are obviously Toronto. They miss out on Nash, and end up over paying Landry Fields to a rediculous contract. It wouldn't be that bad, but they just drafted Ross with their lottery pick, so the move doesn't really make sense. Toronto better hope Jonas is all that he was made out to be, or else it's going to be a long year in Toronto
Disagree about Toronto being the big losers. Nash was a bit of a sidebar that did not actually fit with the building process that they were following. Hurts mostly for pride than anything else. Did over pay for Fields, but he does fit their program and cannot be considdered the biggest blunder in history. Unless you assume Nash was not worth the gamble. In the end, the Raps have a bit of a bruise from this, but are still on track in the long run. They are definately not under the gun like Dallas / New York / Houston / New Jersey etc. They did not HAVE to make the big deal here.
The Lakers did the best. They got the best passing point guard in the NBA and a guy that can also shoot the ball. Yeah, he can't play defense, but Steve Blake can't either, Derek Fisher couldn't play much since 2004, and four future draft picks won't play much defense this season either.
Nash gives the Lakers the best Big Four in the league. Nash, Kobe, Pau, and Bynum is a legit four man core. Four versatile players with two who can really pass the ball well. All four can score too. If Metta can get his head in the game for the entire season then the becomes a good fifth option for this team as a defensive ace, enforcer, and part time rebounder and scorer. If Showtime 2.0 can get to the Finals then MWP is the guy you want defending LBJ. The Lakers don't have much depth, but I think Nash can get the most out of role players like Barnes, Ebanks, and Josh McRoberts. Steve Blake is a serviceable backup point guard. I think Goudelock could be a real X-factor off the bench for LA next year, too. I think the Lakers could use a couple of extra guys. Maybe another option at the 3/2. And another center. They might want to look at Ryan Hollins as an tall, long, athletic backup center who can block shots and went to UCLA. Then they could add a leftover in the OJ Mayo, Courtney Lee, Gerald Green, Nick Young, Randy Foye, and Carlos Delfino free agency sweepstakes. ... I could also see Grant Hill ending up in LaLa Land, too. Juwan Howard finally got a ring. Why not Nash and Hill?
... I also really like what the Celtics are doing this off-season. I like the Sully and Fab Melo picks. Both players fill a need up front. The Jason Terry signing was great. I actually think he was a better free agent than Ray Allen. He gives you 3 point range and clutch shooting, but Jet is a better ball handler and more creative scorer. He also gives you scoring punch off the bench and thrives in a sixth man role. I like the Rondo-Avery Bradley backcourt better. Those two guys give the Celtics youth and defense. Then Jet can come off the bench to score and handle the ball, leading a second unit that will also include Jeff Green (3/4), Sully (4), and Fab Melo (5). Plus, they are still in the running for Ray Allen. If they get him, great. If not, I think they should add one of the cheaper wing options. I think that Courtney Lee would be a great fit as a younger, more active shooting guard who can score, hit three's, and play defense. That would give Boston a second unit of Jason Terry, Courtney Lee, Jeff Green, Jared Sullinger, and Fab Melo. Kris Joseph and last year's draft picks are there too. That would give Boston the best bench in the league to go along with a great veteran core of KG, Pierce, and Rondo (Avery Bradley and Brandon Bass being the other two starters). If Courtney Lee isn't available either, then they need to look at a defensive wing player, since that team already has enough scoring.
The Celtics and Lakers really helped their teams this off-season and they look like they are turning the 2013 title chase into a four team race.
OKC had a good draft, getting Perry Jones. I like the pick even if he might not be as great a fit as some people think (he basically duplicates what Kevin Durant gives them. Draymond Green may have been a better fit, or some other inside scorer). Picking up Hasheem Thabeet is solid. He has talent as a shot blocker and will give them some center insurance if they move Kendrick Perkins. They are also bringing in a guy from Europe. I think that they could add another perimeter guy though. There are some decent wing options out there, and they should be able to get one fairly cheap.
I am mad at the Miami Heat for passing up Perry Jones. That would have been an IDEAL situation for him. He would give them an athletic 3/4 off the bench who can score and finish. He could have learned from LeBron, Bosh, Battier, and Haslem. I quicker unit of Chalmers, Wade, Perry Jones, LeBron, and Bosh would have been SCARY. ... however, they did end up getting a center with the Sixers second round pick which is the one position they need, and in doing so saved some money and get the Sixers pick next year in a draft I am warming up to. ... in free agency, Ray Allen would obviously be a good fit (Jet might have been a BETTER fit as he is more of a sixth man with Ray's 3 point shooting, but a better ball handler, passer, and all around scorer), but if htey fail to get him I am not sure what there backup plan is. If they can't get Ray Allen, then they need to look at their other options at the 2/3 with James Jones and Mike Miller being there only real options at the backup shooting guard and small forward spots since Battier is playing more of a stretch four role.
I am anxious to see what the Grizzlies do. I liked our Tony Wroten draft pick even if PJIII or Draymond Green might have been the better option. I like Wroten's point guard skills and his potential on defense. We are going after the main free agents so I want to see who we pick up. If we can add a solid rotation guy I think we could end up being the third seed out West next year (behind the Thunder and Lakers), and one of those fringe contenders outside of the new Big Four (Lakers, Thunder, Heat, and Celtics). If we can't get Ray Allen, then Courtney Lee and Nick Young sound good. Randy Foye might be ok. i am intrigued by Gerald Green, too. Kirk Hinrich might be a good option if we can get him cheap. Nobody really wants to bring OJ Mayo back but he might actually be the best option if we can get him a bit cheaper. He could thrive off the bench if he was only asked to score/shoot. he played well off the bench last year when Greivas Vazquez was the big point guard. Wroten could fill GV's role but as a more athletic option with better defense (but a worse shot).
imo both have done a great job the celts draft brings much needed big man depth and getting terry was a great pickup he brings it hard every night and with the lakers getting bash yes they gave up the 4 draft picks but imo its still a huge upgrade getting nash too run the show
Lakers because they got an All Star caliber player without giving up much. They did not panic and give up one of their bigs and maybe now they don't to. If they do and give up Gasol or Bynum for a young athletic, it hurts less when you know Nash will make whomever they get better to where they will be little loss if the player is not as good as Gasol or Bynum. I doubt both big player will be traded now.
The Celtics have a deep backcourt if Ray Alen comes back, he, Bradley and Terry can all play around Rondo. If Green resigns then they are looking good.
My Suns have made a few good signings and if we get Gordon then we will be better shape than the last few years.
Houston now have no PG but about 8 PF's so I don't know what is going on there.
Anyone who thinks Ron Artest is good or even calls him by that stupid name is crazy. The hate that i have for that guy is up there with the love that Skip Bayless has for Tebow. Seriously he is a tough guy, who took a step backwards last year as a defender. As far as the moves I agree with most of you on Boston, Phoenix, and I'll take New Jersey for the fact as stated a couple of times (I thought Williams was gone).
Not really a fan of the offseason moves by Boston actually. The rafted Sullinger an Melo(both great moves IMO), but then sign Jason Terry instead of bringing back Allen. While Terry is still a good player, he's become much more of a sg and has lost too much defensively to be able to guard the Kobe's,Harden's, Wade's, and Ginobli's they will ultimately run into. Bradley is already a small guy himself and while a good defender, still going to be giving up size. Then instead of simply playing Sullinger as a backup for 20 MPG and signing a center(Chris Kaman anyone?) they resigned Bass for 3 years who only forces Garnett into playing even more time at the 5 which he simpy does not need to do. As for Melo, while I said I loe the pick and think it will pay off in 3-4 years, he3 simpy isn't ready as of now and Jeff Green like someone else said wasn't anything special before his heart surgery. Now the dude hasn't played for over a year and very well may be out of shape and not really ready to contribute much for larger part of the season.
IMO so far, the biggest winners have been BKN,LAL, and PHX. The biggest losers have been DAL,HOU, and NOH.
BKN managed to somehow land All-Star guard Joe Johnson for a bunch of expiring contracts without even having to give up any of their best young players i.e. Brooks,Lopez,Humphries,James,Green which could trigger a domino effect in landing Dwight as well. They resigned athletic marvel and defensive motor specialist Gerald Wallace, and brought over sharp shooting Mirza Teletovic at the taxpayers MLE.
LAL landed Steve Nash for a couple late picks that would probably have been traded either(as always), probably Grant Hill for vet minimum to pllay with his bbf Steve and get one last chance at a title, and possibly also triggered the first of a domino effect in landing Dwight Howard.
PHX is a winner so far IMO simply because of their ability to bring in 3 quality young players 2 of which have franchise potential and could form the best scoring combo in the league in a few years only hours before ad after trading the face of their franchise in Steve Nash. Doesn't hurt that for 2 of those players they didn't even have to pay 15 million combined as they got both at cheap contracts fo 6 and 8 a year. They already have a 15-10 center booked uo fior a couple more years at around 6 million. Going forward, this team has set themselves up to compete now , while building for the future. Given this could change quickly if NOH can't find some type of fitting S&T with them for EJ.
DAL managed to not only miss out on their top PG choice of Deron Williams after he decided to stick around BKN with Johnson and Wallace.Plan B of Steve Nash was a miss after the Suns decided a S&T was in the best interest of Nash. Plans C and C- of Jeremy Lin and Goran Dragic both seem to be missed out on as Dragic has decided to choose PHX and Lin seems to be Heading back to the Knicks. The final plan was to bring Kidd back at a reasonable rate to be the backup to whatever player plan a through c- they ended up getting, and yet didn't even manage to get him as he too decided to balk to NYK to more than likely backup Lin.
HOU joins the losers list after failing to get any of the bigtime free agents they had coveted(Dwight,J-Smooth,Gasol) while giving away their terrific PG Lowry. Not only giving away Lowry for a Toronto draft pick instead of Gasol(which they werent willing to give in on) they ended up losing his terrific backup Dragic to PHX. As if losing Lowry wasn't enough for free agents to think twice about going there, then they lose Dragic for nothing. Here's to hoping HOU figures something out soon, bcause for a team who has managed to stay competitive after losing Yao and T-Mac, theyre finally looking like a low lottery team that can rebuild from the ground up.
NOH simply because they lost out on basically the only thing good that came out of their trade for Paul in EJ. I really don't have anything else to say on this one. After drafting Austin Rivers, my guess is that Gordon felt offended and disrespected. So here's to hoping Rivers pans out like NOH expects because they probably lost a franchise 2guard for him and may end up getting hardly nothing in return.
got rid of alot of money, still has 2 all stars in Al Horford and Josh Smith and will have a shot at Dwight maybe...