Where would the Sixers Be?
Yes another Sixers topic! Its because we have nothing better to look forward to, and Philly fans are GREAT basketball fans.
My question: How far would the Sixers get in these playoffs if they kept their draft picks and never made these trades.
You'd have a team of:
Jrue Holiday, Evan Turner, Andre Iguodala, Maureese Speights, Nik Vucevic
Kyle Korver, Lou Williams, Thaddeus Young, Willie Green, Maurice Harkless, as your bench.
The only eyesore is Evan Turner at the 2.
I think this team having built chemistry over time, could take the Bulls, Wizards, Hawks, Bobcats, and give the Raptors, Nets, and the Pacers a serious challenge.
Would you take 2nd round playoffs over 3-4 years of rebuilding with MCW Noel and hopefully a top 3 pick?
That's a good ass team all around. Korver and Young should definitely be in the starting line-up to give floor spacing for Holiday/Iggy drives. The bench then features two ball-handlers with complimentary games in Lou Williams a primary scorer and Turner a primary playmaker/facilitator. I'm guessing you forgot Hawes but he and Vucevic also make a very good pairing at the C spot as they are good rebounders/passers/shooters. Harkless gives Iggy spot minutes to rest and you don't lose much athletically/defensively. Also Green is there in a pinch in case Lou is struggling. Overall VERY solid team.
What ifs are fun.
That Bynum trade hurt...
Hindsight is 20/20, but also all of these players wouldn't have been able to be kept, it's just the business aspect of the NBA. Also a player like Harkless wouldn't be able to develop in this proposed lineup at the same rate he would in Orlando. The point is, there are too many hypotheticals to make an estimation. As a Philadelphia Eagles fan I have learned to focus on the future rather than the past because the "what if" scenarios frustrate me as a fan.
2 problems with this hypothesis:
1. Willie Green hasn't been on the Sixers since 2010. Mo Speights since 2011. Spencer Hawes you left off for some reason.
2. I don't understand how you can possibly prefer this team over a possible contender in a few years. At best this team that you described can contend with the likes of Washington and Toronto. Why would that be what you strive for?? With the exception of maybe Iggy and Holiday, there is no name there that is more than mediocre. Luckily Sam Hinkie is a smart guy that seems to be building something in the mold of Indiana/OKC/SAS (hopefully!!!).
But would a potential lineup of MCW, Gary Harris, Wiggins, Thad and Noel be more desirable? I don't think they have too many regrets at this point. They probably regret trading Vuc but that's about it.
Not point pining for the past - Lets look ahead and I'm pretty optimistic if the lottery works out for them. Very excited about Noel who has been all but forgotten about to pair with MCW
the Reason I joined this was so that I could post up some of my crazy fantasy ideas and see how you all relate.
If you all validly disprove me I appreciate it. I don't appreciate "um whats the point of this" comments, it shows you have no creative thinking skills at all.
this forum is not strictly for draft prospects. if that was the case, it'd get really boring really fast.
this was a logical question. would you rather have that original squad after watching half that team i listed (and I forgot Hawes who i'd start at PF) contributing in the playoffs and maturing as they have.
The real reason I posted it is because I saw Lou Williams and KK handing it to the Nets. I miss those guys to be honest, especially after watching the trash we had out there this past year.
Fair enough, but no point to take this personal. Imagining 'what if' scenarios is welcome. Only problem- that you picked a bad one. In your 'what if' scenario not only does the team does barely survive these playoffs, they don't have nearly as promising a future as the real Sixers have.
If you want to get really philosophical, just imagine if the Sixers got the number 1 pick in '97. Duncan is the one star that could have coexisted with Iverson. Imagine how freaky a decade that could've been! (I know I'm going wayyy back... it just is the one 'what if
Giving up Vucevic, Iggy and Harkness really hurt them plus I think they lost a pick in that trade. I recall respected posters on here saying that with Bynum, the 76ers would be as good or not better than they were in 2011-12. This was assuming Bynum repeated his 2011-12 form.
That was before Sam Hinkie arrived and last year I honestly believe that NOP made the Holiday trade offer and Hinkie accepted it. Moving Evan Turner I'm still not happy with but if Hinkie did not think he was going to become the sort of player we had hoped and was unprepared to offer him the sort of extension Turner was after then his hands were slightly tied.
I'll throw in one stat, the Bobcats from 7-59 in 2012 made the play offs this year mainly due to Al Jefferson - a very good player but not a superstar. I think we can say that Philly's young core post draft will be stronger than the post 2012 draft Bobcats team, so Philly could become better sooner than we think. I don't see them getting more than 30 wins next year unless they land a major FA but another good pick in 2015 and maybe a decent FA and they could be useful in 2015-16.