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Where does Mayo fit the best?

While watching the Bulls/Grizz game, I am looking at OJ Mayo... Will someone save him??? This guy was one of the most dynamic scorers as a rookie and was great as a sophomore.. Now, he is a bench player and looks like a shell of what he used to be.. I see flashes of his scoring days but I mostly see him standing out on the wing, waiting for someone to pass him the ball.. The Grizz have taking a great player and turned him into (basically) a stand still shooter..

I did this for Beasley earlier.

San Antonio Spurs - The Spurs are without Manu for a while and they are still trying to find a way to get younger, while competing.. Their Big 3 has slowed down a good bit and they arent quite the campionship team they used to be. The Spurs could send Richard Jefferson and Cory Joseph for OJ Mayo and Darell Arthur. The Surs can move Leonard to the starting SF and start Mayo at the SG spot. This would give them more scoring puch while alowing Leonard to be the defender and Mayo take on the role of Manu and score while running some PG... Arthur is hurt but looked like a nice big when he was healthy.. The Grizz woud have a backup to play SF and SG, which is what they need and a guy who could come back from injury, and be their backup PG or could be third behind Selby..

Cleveland Cavs - The Cavs are young and struggling to do much. With Jamison coming off the books next year, the Cavs will be in complete rebuild mode starting Thompson and Irving as Sophomores.. They could send Daniel Gibson and a Anthony Parker to the Grizz for Mayo. The Grizz would get a backup SG/PG who can spell Conley and be a deep threat from any position.. With Selby getting minutes, he could play SG off Selby in the second unit.. Parker is a great shooter that can spell the SG/SF spot and provide a vetran presence. The Cavs would get a 20 point scorer to take some pressure off of Irving in the back court.. He is a better defender than people give him credit for and he has some ability to run the point.

Other teams that he woud be great for but IDK how they would get him:
Lakers
Celtics
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I remember from

I remember from 04-07(Highschool) you heard nothin but Mayo,Mayo,Mayo, thought he'd be an allstar by now.

He still has a chance, just has to find the right place for him.

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The wolves are desperate for

The wolves are desperate for this type of player.. And he would be an instant star there too.

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I know the Grizzlies can get

I know the Grizzlies can get more for OJ than Anthony Parker and Daniel Gibson. Imo I think needs to go somewhere where he can be the first or second option on a rebuilding team. In Memphis there was always Rudy Gay or Zach Randolph ahead of him. I would personally love to see OJ on the Raptors.

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You guys think he could

You guys think he could translate his game into being a full time Point Guard ?

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Nets?

The Nets are currently trying to get Mayo as a way to dump salary to get Dwight Howard. They have two offers on the table. Anthony Morrow for Mayo, or Jordan Farmar, and a first rounder for Mayo. Personally I think this move could be more than just a way to dump salary. I think it could help dwill decide to stay. He has never had that type of shooting guard to play next to. Getting Mayo might do wonders in keeping Dwill in Jersey shore. I like Farmar and a first rounder for Mayo more than Morrow for Mayo. The Grizzlies would get a nice back up to Conley, that would be better than Selby or Pargo. They can also use him as a 6th man SG which is currently Mayo's role. And they get a first rounder which would come in very handy for the Grizz. I think it would help compensate the Grizzlies for the kind of player Mayo used to be and can still be if he could just go the right team. Source

The Wolves are another option. Their lack of a shooting guard would be solved, and it would be quite funny to see the Wolves get both Mayo and Love considering they were the one's who drafted Mayo in the first place and then traded him for Love. Now they could have both players. Which is another reason why I don't think the Grizzlies would agree to a deal involving Mayo going to the Wolves.

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Not a chance. Played a few

Not a chance. Played a few years ago major minutes at the point in the Summer league and it doesnt work well.

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Options for Mayo

Like everyone.mentioned above, I know Mayo is much better than what Memphis has turned him into. No one loses major all-around ability without major injuries or just taking a confidence hit. I did see his great abilities shine in the playoffs, especially that OT game against OKC, I think it wad game 5. But likely suitor and fits for Mayo are listed below with reasonings.

5. LA Lakers: I always do this because of my passion for LA. A team needing youth, scoring, and offensive creativity could somehow pursue Mayo and let him play a much BIGGER role, even off the bench, for a championship contending squad. Even being a standstiil shooter could benefit him with the opposition gameplanning for Kobe and 'Drew. Don't know how they get him, but LA has pulled a Memphis growth before.

4. San Antonio Spurs: A great veteran squad that again lacks youth. Manu was their best thing smoking, and with Mayo, I know Popovich can create a great offensive scheme with this guy.

3. Los Angeles Clippers: My darkhorse if a trade were possible. Yet another team with a thin bench like its other LA team. They have pieces they could move and are no stranger to starting an undersized backcourt. This would be an interesting team making another big move like so.

2. Minnesota T'Wolves: That SG spot has been screaming Mayo's name since he was oriniginally drafted by the T'Wolves. He would be a creative scoring placed alongisde Rubio and Love. Minus the headache of Beasley, a scary team in the future possibly.

1. Chicago Bulls: For some reason, I still don't believe Rip Hamilton is the answer for the Bulls. He will hold the spot down for a little while with D.Rose, but in time they'll need a youthful offensive force. Mayo can also get at it on D under Thibodeau's great team defensive philosophy. Rose is already familiar with Mayo as they have history playing AAU. A fresh start on a title contender can hopefully boost Mayo's confidence to the herald star he once was. It not elevating to a superstar, he could grow into an above average role player a la Jason Terry or draft classmate James Harden.

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I wouldn't trade a first

I wouldn't trade a first round pick for Mayo if I'm Nets. This team is gonna need all the picks they can when Deron leaves town. The Nets will maybe be the worst team in NBA history next season.

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T Wolves and Sixers are the best fits for Mayo...

The Wolves have been trying to get Mayo for a while, and I do think that's a good fit...But for some reason I think a Turner for Mayo swap makes sense for both franchises...Mayo Is a bigger and better Jodi Meeks, he'd be a day 1 starter and a perfect fit next to Holiday and Iggy, Turner is a better passer, and the Grizzlies need a play maker in their line up...the money works and the two could change places and have bigger impacts...

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Turner is A LOT better than

Turner is A LOT better than Mayo, so I don't know why the 76ers would do that trade, unless that got something else back along wtih Mayo.

Mayo's a good shooter and is skilled, but I just don't think his game has translated to the NBA like people thought. He was supposed to be a great combo guard, but he's a tweener. He needs a new opportunity quick before his confidence is lost forever.

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Spurs- James Anderson SG of the future, quite sure they are not stressing over Manu.

Cavs- I liked the fit as well last year once he hit the "block". I just would like to know, what makes you think the Grizz or anyone else for the matter will take on Boobie Gibson for $9,584,644? If anything the Grizz would want to include Eyenga with Parker.

Lakers/Celtics- No! No! No! Why would they give up "key" pieces for him just to be a role player.

Clippers- A dream come true is what I say. If the Clips could just somehow find a way to propose the right 3-team package it would be a steal. Who would not want to play their best with CP3 BG & Big Shot. After all Billips would be the best mentor for him to have at this point in his career just from a standpoint of learning how to be a complete Guard.

T'Wolves- I scratch my head and plead the 5th.

Bulls- at first I had envisioned it, but it still doesn't bring the team over the hump of being the Eastern Conference champs.

Nets- of course this is a biased opinion but I want what's best for my team. I say make the move to keep DWill "happy" if Indy was only offering McRoberts & Rush, it should be nothing for our owner to make something happen.

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If Anderson were the SG of

If Anderson were the SG of the future, he would be playing.. He is behind Daniel Green right now so I think, no, he isnt the SG of the future...

He would be a huge piece for the Celtics/Lakers and would completly change their team.

You are a Memphis fan and you think he isnt any good?? You dont watch enough and if you watch alot, you dont understand basketball..

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"You are a Memphis fan and

"You are a Memphis fan and you think he isnt any good??"

Nets- of course this is a biased opinion but I want what's best for my team. I say make the move to keep DWill "happy" if Indy was only offering McRoberts & Rush, it should be nothing for our owner to make something happen.

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As of right now Marshon

As of right now Marshon Brooks has a brighter future than OJ Mayo, so I don't understand why they would need Mayo.

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I would be so happy if the

I would be so happy if the wolves got Mayo. Its weird to think that a bench player for Memphis could make the Twolves SOOOOO much better! He is exactly what we need.

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Mayo can play. People just

Mayo can play. People just forget because he's in Hollins dog house. Averaged around 20 his first 2 years in the league sharing the ball with Rudy Gay and others. He can flat out score given the oppurtunity. The Wolves, Nets, Cavs, Bobcats need a guy like Mayo.

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I dont know as far as trades,

I dont know as far as trades, you guys are better than I am about that. I will say that anyone that is sleeping on Mayo as far as how good he is, and saying that Turner and Brooks are clearly better players than Mayo.....I want to warn you.

Mayo can be a star in the league. Dont count him out from just what we have seen with the Grizz. Mayo is going in reverse with Memphis. Alex English and Dale Ellis rode the bench early in their careers and neither avg in double figures in their first 2 years. Both went on to avg almost 30ppg in the league. Mayo is a scoring machine. Statistically, Mayo started way better than these guys. It would be best for him to go somewhere that is rebuilding.

Going back to how good Mayo is or isnt. What basis is Turner or Brooks better? Turner has yet to avg double figures. Brooks is a good scorer on a bad team, but has a HOF backcourt mate, lol. Mayo, Turner, and Brooks are 24, 23, and 22 respectively.

Would be great with a guy like Ty Lawson. Also I like the Raptors idea, putting him along side an explosive wing like Derozen or in Indiana along side George. Orlando could be a good place for a young player looking to break out....remember T-Mac? I'd bet John Wall would like to have him. He is a better all around player than Crawford or Young.

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Amir Johnson and Demar

Amir Johnson and Demar Derozan for Mayo and a second round pick

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When Mayo was scoring all of

When Mayo was scoring all of those points for Memphis, how many games were they winning?

He wasn't getting to the line and wasn't even getting assists... He's a good player, just not who people thought he'd be considering all of the hype he had. He's a tweener and his defense is suspect most of the time.

It's hard for some people to believe that so many players in his high school class has ended up better than him.

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The Bulls! Rip is done

The Bulls! Rip is done

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@ IndianaBasketball Mayo was

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Mayo was getting right at 3 assist a game, both years.

And he was shooting around 4 foul shots a game.. Thats not crazy numbers but its better than alot of people..

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And the Grizzlies werent

And the Grizzlies werent winning a ton, but I have a feeling that wasn't Mayo's fault. Randolph improved greatly the next year, Conley has improved a ton, Marc Gasol lost alot of weight and has become a top 7 C.

The guy has shown that he can be a very good scorer. This season I believe he is averaging around 10 ppg in 24 minutes, and his shooting percentages are actually rock solid. As a Twolves fan, Mayo would be a perfect fit. He is a guy who can knock down shots spotting up, but also can create at times. I don't think he can be a primary creator, but with Rubio, I think Mayo could do a little of both. I also dont get where people think he isnt a good defender. Did people watch the playoffs last year? He isnt an elite defender, but he is definitly more than seviceable defensivly.

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It wasnt all Mayo's fault they werent winning. Wasnt Gay avg 19ppg on the same team? If its Mayo's fault they werent winning its just as much Gay's. How did Memphis do without Gay in the postseason? Incidentally, Mayo was very vital in their success once Z-Bo put the team on his back.

If your statement is an indictment that Mayo wont be any more than what he already is, then the same can be said for Gay. His numbers are some of his lowest this year since he was a rookie...and he has been in the league 2 years longer. The main difference is, Gay has cashed out into a big contract already.

People on this site are quick to discard players like Mayo and recently Wall, but you have to realize, they only have one year separating them from HS and the NBA and everyone doesnt develop at the same rate. Also, I disregard HS hype as much as I can. I mean Beasley was # 1 in that class and Griffin was no where close to him as a recruit. Also, my brother ALWAYS said Gordon was the best guard in that class. He wasnt far off considering no one wouldve guessed Rose would be MVP in 3 years.

After Mayo got into the conflict with his coach and the fight with Tony Allen, he has been in the doghouse and on the trading block. Not to mention his role has decreased. I for one would like to see him under different circumstances before I pass final judgement on him.

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@The8thDeadlySin Mayo

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Mayo averaged 3.4 free-throws and 3.2 assists during his rookie season, and 3.2 free-throws and 3.0 assists during his second season...

He played ***38 minutes per game*** both seasons and had the ball a lot of the time. That is awful.

Here's what I know so far about Mayo and I'll start with his positives:

1. He's competitive.

2. He's a very good shooter, especially when he's confident.

3. He's got a very good skill level, solid footwork, etc.

Now the negative:

1. He's undersized for the two guard and lacks vision to play point guard. He's a tweener.

2. He lacks length, athleticism (and don't give me that "he recorded a 40 inch vertical at the combine" junk) and lateral quickness to make up for his lack of height defending the two.

3. He doesn't get to the free-throw line.

4. He doesn't finish well around the rim.

5. Played a ball dominant game for all of his prep/college career and now has been brought down to Earth in the NBA. Struggling to adapt.

I think Mayo can be a good player, but I'm not as high on him as others seem to be.

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3apg isnt bad for a guy who

3apg isnt bad for a guy who avgs over 17ppg. biggysmalls makes good point that this year, Mayo's per min offensive stats are better...which could imply that Mayo is becoming a more efficient if not better player but getting less opportunity to showcase it.

I just think he is too young and has only been under one particular set of circumstances to say he wont be able to live up to some of his initial promise. He was not in the same situation that Harden walked into. Harden is a great player but he had it relatively easy compared to Mayo. Hell, Rudy Gay was still learning how to play when Mayo got there. Yet, he still avg 18ppg over his first two seasons.

Steve Nash was 26 years old before he turned a corner. I'll bet you after seeing him the first 4 years of his career, no one thought he would be 2 time league MVP. LOL.

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And the only thing Turner

And the only thing Turner doesn't do better than Mayo is shoot.

Turner has more size and can defend three positions. He's *slightly* more athletic. He's stronger. He's a better rebounder. He's a better ball handler. He's a better passer and has better vision. Another thing I like about Turner is that he wasn't hyped up or a star most of his life, so you know he's used to working hard and playing with a chip.

Turner is the guy who we should be saying "if given the green light, he'll do this or that"... He hasn't been able to play his game 100% since he's been with the 76ers.

I believe that learning to play off of the ball, become a better shooter, catch and shoot, etc will help Turner going forward, but he could be average 12-15 points, 6-7 rebounds and 5 assists if he had the ball and was playing starter's minutes.

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You are not very high on him. I respect that. I am very high on him...and I could be wrong. Some guys it takes them a while to "get it". Lets go back to the title of the thread. "Where does Mayo fit best?" I honestly dont know, but I know Memphis is NOT the best fit for him. It may simply be because he has had major conflict with his coach and teammates.

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The Bulls would be a great

The Bulls would be a great fit for Mayo. Exactly what they need, he would fit into a similar role as Ben Gordon's when he was a Bull. Mayo is a good defensive player which would go great with Chicago's system. He also can knock down shots and with Rose penetrating like he does, not to mention his new found playmaking skills, Mayo would be left open for plenty of shots.

Toronto would also be good since Toronto desperatly needs scoring, and Mayo and Derozan both played for USC never played on the same USC team though. The only problem is Derozan doesnt rebound close to good enough for an NBA forward so a Mayo/Derozan lineup would lack rebounding, I actually think its funny when people say Derozan is more of a SF then a SG. Bargnani in the front court not rebounding well by any means would not help the situation.

Cleveland would be very good. They really lack wings in Cleveland, Mayo would be getting bigtime minutes.Cleveland also has a very good coaching staff and team oriented roster. Lots of good characters.

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And just for the record I

And just for the record I would take Turner over Mayo anyday, I dont think its close.

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Only thing Turner doesnt do

Only thing Turner doesnt do is shoot better....thats a big only, particularly from 3pt range. They are not the same type of player. Turner has to have the ball in his hands to truly be effective as well. Considering that he is not the offensive threat that Mayo is, yes, his assists numbers are higher...but not that much and thats easily explained because he is more of a playmaker than scorer. Two different values here. A scorer and a playmaker. I think they both will have very good sub-All Star level or All Star careers. Where on a championship team, Turner can play an Odom or poor-man Pippen type role with his all around game....Mayo would be more of Byron Scott/Ray Allen type role of shoot/score. Maybe not a star, but a solid 2nd option....and damn good luxury as 3rd option on a contender.

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Its weird to think that a

Its weird to think that a bench player for Memphis could make the Twolves SOOOOO much better!

Yeah, instead of going 24-42 you might got 26-40!!!

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