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What's Wrong With The Grizzles Owner?

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What's Wrong With The Grizzles Owner?

Grizzles owner, Michael Heisley is the biggest idiot in professional sports. He rejected the Suns offer of Rudy Gay, Hakim Warrick, and Mike Conley for Amare Stoudemire. How dumb is this man? He could've made up for trading Pau Gasol for basically nobody, with this deal. Amare and OJ Mayo would've made a great 1-2 punch, not to mention a great inside and outside weapon. There's an abundance of small forwards in this years draft, that they could've easily replaced Rudy Gay with. They could've selected Earl Clark with their lottery pick to replace Rudy. Then in the off season, address the point guard issue, by probably signing Ramon Sessions or if not wait till the 2010 draft to pick between Ricky Rubio, John Wall, or J'rue Holiday, to replace Mike Conley. These owners and GM's don't think, that's why I got to give much props to the job Portland Trailblazer GM, Kevin Pritchard is doing. He has traded Randy Foye for Brandon Roy on draft night, which turned out to be a steal, he traded Tyrus Thomas for LaMarcus Aldridge on draft night, which also turned out to be a steal, he bought a draft pick from the Suns, which turned out to be Rudy Fernandez, drafting center Joel Freeland, who's currently killing overseas, he traded Brandon Rush, for a stud in Jerryd Bayless on draft night, and he traded for Nicolas Batum, who is a kid with a lot of intangibles, ala Boris Diaw, but just with more hops. If only Jerry West was still GM of the Grizzles, Amare would've been in Memphis already.


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Why Amare Would've Fit in Memphis?

Alot of people don't know this, but Amare Stoudemire was committed to go to the University of Memphis, but then opted to make the jump to the NBA, out of high school. Amare, being a Florida native, is use to the south. Not to mention, Amare is one of those players that care more about stats, than winning. Amare thinks Shaq, J-Rich, and Barbosa, are all stealing points from him. Amare wants to be in the top 10 or 5 in scoring. He could've accomplished that in Memphis, especially with OJ Mayo opening the lane for him, by hitting long range shots. OJ Mayo's game would've taken off even more with a dominate post player, such as Amare. To me, Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo is not a good combination. Mayo is messing up Gay's game and Gay is messing up OJ's game to an extend. They don't need to be on the same team, because they both love to take perimeter shots and need the ball to be successful. The Grizzles also has enough cap space, the most in the league by the way, to add more pieces to the team and make them better, around Amare and OJ Mayo, plus a lottery draft pick, which they could've chose Earl Clark. I think they could've signed Charlie Villanueva in the off season, play him at power forward, move Amare to the center position, Earl Clark at small forward, Mayo at shooting guard, Lowry at point, and Marc Gasol as the sixth man. I they make the lottery in 2010, draft either John Wall, Ricky Rubio, or J'rue Holiday. Sounds like a squad right? I wish I was a GM

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I saw that Don

Personally, I think Amare is overrated. For a guy with his size and talent, he just doesn't fulfil his promise. Owners are afraid to pull the trigger on young guys, especially ones that they drafted. They take their own pride into account too often instead of what is good for the team. I heard that there was something brewing with a three team trade that would have brought Beasley to Memphis. That would be fun to watch: Mayo and Beasley together. I think BEasy is going to be a stud and I guess Miami wants to win now with Wade always being one play away from injury. I am from Chicago and I don't think Pax should pull the trigger on the proposed (supposedly) trade of Ty Thomas, Noah, Nocioni, and a draft pick. Thomas seems to be figuring it out latey. Since he has been put in the starting role his averages are 20, 11,3ast,1.5stl,2blk. Noah is just a hustle guy that every team needs that can come up with big games and Noc is Noc, a guy that gets under everyone's skin whom I love to watch play. The Bulls need to somehow get rid of Hinrich and Gooden's contract and go after someone like Bosh. They need a stud in the middle to score, they don't need him to block shots!, just be that presence under the rim. An unselfish player who thinks of the team first and not cry about other guys taking his shots like Amare does. The NBA is full of crybabies. Why? What happens to them between college, which is a whole lot more fun to watch, and the pros? Guessing money right?

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idk

I dont know if that is really a good trade. The grizzlies would be giving up a whole lot for 1 player.Rudy Gay is a valuable piece to memphis, maybe too valuable, but hakim warrick would have to be included in that trade for it to fall through, which is all that bad considering warrick is a good but not great player and isnt a player a true glue player who a GM would be real mad about not being on their team anymore. They should do a three team deal that includes 1 or 2 average to a little above average players or draft picks. Memphis doesnt need 2 get younger, thats not at all the problem. They need defenders and tough players. and they should trade with a playoff team in the west to get better.

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umm

they wouldnt have made the lottery in 2010 if they got him

and hes making a team with a core he juss needs star power

gay isnt the typical small forward to me hes a litte like durant

faster then most forwards can play inside and out tall and can shoot

gay is a great pass lane defender

defense
oj mayo plays defense

gay has aot of poetial

and hes living up to it to

blocks steals,points

hes doing everything that he was drafted for

they juss need to pull things togther there young

and all them juss for stoudimire

a man who comes out of contract next year

and is looking for a title not a young team with a losing record

memphis would have gave up

most of there core for 1 man that will leave them in 2 off season

and they will have to atrract other players and championship attentions juss to keep him so most likely he would leave anyway cuzz i dont see them doing that now

but trade there core for him?

y

when they can keep everybody n sign him when the time is rite and by that time

gay and mayo will b all stars rite

and they will have there offense figured out and the will have

2 lotttery players by then
{1 for this season and 1 for after next season when stoudimire becomes a free agent}

to go along with there up n coming team

he made the right choice

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buckner,miles, and ross

buckner,miles, and ross old players who dont produce

they need to get rid of them in lock down drafts picks with there contratcs or let them room out clear cap room

but they shouldnt rush the need to do wat there doing gradually
take there time i belive in memphis

plus they got mo cheeks

sixers are gonna look so stupid

when in a couple years the grizzlies are going to b contenders

and the sixers

are gone b the same old 8th seed barley making the playoffs sixers

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Don

Normally I agree with you but on this one I have to Disagree. Amar'e has the rest of this year and next year on his contract. If he doesn't like Memphis (which his agent said he wants to go to a big market & championship team) then they traded their life for 1 year of Amar'e. Don't think thats a great idea. Amar'e wants a big contract. The biggest he can get is from the Suns if they don't trade him, but if they do, then his bird rights are gone... So he might as well go to whatever team is best fit because they will offer him the same contract as everyone else. If they do pull the trigger on that trade and if they are in the lottery next year, then Amar'e is gone for sure!!!

I'm calling it now, Amar'e to the Knicks in 2010... So is Steve Nash, if I'm correct on his contract....

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I understand where u coming from, but there's no way Amare is staying on the Suns, past the deadline because Steve Kerr is on a mission to blow the team up. That being said, The Grizzles has the most cap in the league, they can offer Amare the most lucrative deal, starting out at about $20 to $21 million a year. The Grizzles, already with OJ Mayo, and with the addition of Amare, would've lured quite a few free agents to Memphis, add in draft picks too,and they could turn into a young playoff contender, ala Portland Trailblazers. It's not like Memphis, is like Oklahoma, Utah, or Portland, it's an okay market place. It's also has good weather, Amare who is a Florida native, would prefer to play in a city, that's hot. But, with Miami out the race for Amare, by acquiring Jermaine O'Neal, the Bulls seem to be the team that's going to acquire Amare. Chicago is the big market, I guess Amare is looking for. Chicago aka the Windy city, is the third biggest market behind, LA and New York, and the second biggest market on the east coast. Amare, Rose, and Deng will make a great trio.

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yea the knicks i see him

yea the knicks i see him going there
but now i think they shoulnt give up harrington like i did at first

i would give up eddy curry and some extra for stoudimire

now u have amare starting center and harrington starting power forward and lee back up big man

nice core for the bigs

cuzz harrington can play the permiter like marion played

and hes fast an hes taller then marion

and sign nash back in 2010 not for a huge contract but to win a championship

trust me lebron will leave the cavs

for a chance to play with a power house team that can win back to back titiles

plus they got nate rob ,chandler,duhon they gone have a nic bench core

and i think

danilo gone b a great playmaker

its juss somthing about him when i look at him i

dont see another soft European prospect..........

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It's easy

Memphis is a small market and not attractive to large name free agents. Amare would have easily left the team after 2010 especially if they made the lottery again to get a player like Wall or Rubio. But that point about Amare wanting to go to Memphis is retarded. There is a huge difference between deciding to go to one of the better colleges in the NCAA and going to a bottom dwelling, small market team in the NBA.

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Sorry Don

Normally I agree with you too Don and while watching Mayo and Amar'e together would be fun for a year, there is no way he would stick around after 2010. The Grizzlies are one of the smaller market teams with an unstable coaching position and one of the CHEAPEST owners in all of professional sports. Amar'e would light it up for the next year and a half and walk to either the highest bidder or to a team where he can suit up with guys like Lebron, Wade, etc. The price of warrick, gay and conley would be too high for a hand-full of a few meaningless extra wins with Amar'e, not to mention that warrick, gay and conley are all young, talented and CHEAP, their contracts combined equal about $8.2 mil while Amar'e is owed $15. Unless Amar'e signs an extension with Memphis as part of the trade (which he would never do), this trade would marginally help the team over the next year and a half before absolutely crippling them.

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not with you this time Don

The one point I have holes in your logic with is the fact that he is all about his numbers. It seems like the entire league has caught onto that, why would you want to blow up your young core (again) on a player you know doesn't even care about winning on A WINNING TEAM, much less the grizzlies. Im a rudy gay believer, I think he can be a borderline all star type wing in a league that is beginning to be more wing oriniented than Centers and point guards. Conley is really young too, I think he can be a good player, and Warrick is a solid young bench player as well who is fun to watch. If I was the Grizzlies GM i wouldnt have done it either, Id probably have real serious reservations about Rudy Gay for Amare straight up, especially since you'd be essentially trading away half of your young nucleus for a guy thats gone to a big market team in 2010, so you'd really get a season and a half of losing with a big name player and then no compensation.
Maybe for Mike Conley, Hakim Warrick, thier likely high lottery selection the Grizz would be in business, but Gay is to valuable.

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didnt read rgiller till after i posted, great point

On top of what I just said, doesn't make any sense to pay twice as much money for yet another rebuilding era. The Grizz finally have some real building blocks and another year or two in the lottery to hopefully get another real player, and from there I think they can slide in the void left when some of the aging powers of the west ( Houston, Dalls, San An?, Phoenix) fall off.

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Trust me I live in Memphis

Trust me I live in Memphis and I hoped Amar'e would have come to play for my Tigers. But that being said if he's complaining about playing in Phoenix he would slit his wrist playing for the Grizz. The franchise would die if he just walked away in a couple of years, I know they're already dead but that would really do it, if the Grizz stay patient and adopt the Portland model that Don spoke on they would be much better served. Don't get me wrong the trade was tempting but with the type of cap room the Grizz have making that deal would only be a band-aid that wouldn't stop the bleeding in Memphis.With a couple of good drafts we could be somewhat competitive, just have to stop the stupid trades should have tried harder to get Sessions. But trading Rudy Gaye is not the anwser right now need to let O.J and Rudy play together and build some chemistry before you trade one of them. Good post Canes thats actually what I'mtrying to get at. Rudy is a player that you don't give up on just yet in my opinion.By the way I agree that we have the worst owner since Donald Sterling,

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Memphis doesnt need to give

Memphis doesnt need to give up these guys for Amare, he's gonna be gone in 2010 anyway. Rudy Gay might turn out to be the better player out of the two.

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I disagree

Im sorry don but i do not agree with you. Am'are would not want to stay around in Memphis because he would not make them a playoff contender. He wants to be on a team who can contend, but im sorry Memphis is not going to go anywhere anytime soon...

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Lol... Let my man breath...

LOL... Everyone jumped on you as soon as I did... LOL... But that $20-21 mil. is not going down. Regardless of how much a team has they can only offer a maximum contract of about 17 to 18 mil a year. If Amar'e isn't traded the only team that CAN give him the most is the Suns (basically if a player is with a team for more than 3 years then he can be offered the biggest allowable contract). Thats why they say with LBJ going to the Knicks is cool but the only team that can offer him the most money IS the Cavs. The KG deals are gone because of the Collective Bargining Agreement (the same one that made players go to college).

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