What will happen to Rondo; post-Big3
I want to know your guy's opinions on Rondo once the Big 3 retires. I'd say they are done within 3 years. By then, Rondo will be about 27 and in his prime. Will he continue to put up big numbers in the assists category? Will we forget about him and the Celtics all together when the losing starts? Will he score more? What will the Celtics do with him?
I want opinions from Rondo Haters/Lovers. I know there are a lot of you guys out there.
He will score more, and they will be one of the better teams in the league. Sounds like you already got it mapped out so why ask opinions you said "When the losing starts" There was a lot of losing early in Rondo's career. He is too good for that. He makes every player better so the team will be good. He is the best PG in the game and will average closer to a triple double post PP,KG,Ray.
You really think he'll be closer to a trip dub? How many points a game do you think he'll score?
In history, there have always been two teams that will fall off the map for the smallest amount of time, and then get back on the map. Its the Lakers and the Celtics. Those two teams are winning franchise's that have been around for a long time. They know how to rebuild, and construct greatness. Money has a lot to do with it. But I think Boston will fall off shortly, and then they will find Rondo help shortly afterwards.
Paul Pierce has resigned until 2014 I think, KG, Shaq, Ray Allen and JO all expire in 2012. I'd guess Shaq will be done then, KG could play on if he wanted to with a Marcus Camby type two year deal perhaps. Ray Allen might play on again if he wants to. I assume they look to retain Kendrick Perkins for upwards of $8 to $10 million a year this summer. Avery Bradley can also hopefully come through so maybe in 2012/13 they are looking for maybe one major signing at either SF or PF. The top 2012 FA's are PG's and C's which they don't really need but someone maybe an Iggy/Deng/Gerald Wallace type player is what they may need.
But, I think you will really see his value once he ACTUALLY becomes the main player on the team. He looks like their most valuable player currently, and he has a lot of great qualities as a basketball player, but he does have the benefit of playing with 3 HOF players who all carried teams at one point in their careers. Rondo is still young, and he more than likely has not reached his prime. Lord knows if he will ever develop a dependable jumper beyond playing HORSE at All-Star weekend, but thus far he has not seemed too. Nonetheless, he has a great basketball IQ, plays incredibly hard, has amazing length and speed for defense. He is without a doubt an All-Star level PG, and while his free throw shooting and mid range game are grotesque at times, he has so many other qualities that are at such a high level, he is still elite at the position.
The big issue will be of course when they all retire. Word is, KG is indeed interested in doing so in the near future. KG to me is the most valuable piece they have of the Celtics Big 3, but at the same time they have the best replacement for him in Big Baby. Nonetheless, Rondo would probably need to step up his scoing and be prepared to be counted on much more to produce at the offensive end. Without the incredibly versatile Garnett, I would expect Rondo to maybe up his average to around 13-14 per game. I think his shooting percentage might indeed go down, but still be fairly high at 48. As the other players start to lose their effectiveness, I see Rondo peeking at maybe 17-18 ppg, and I have a feeling his assists numbers are going to go down after this year. Without KG a couple years ago, the Celtics still gave Orlando a run for their money in the play-offs. But, with Pierce and Allen seemingly having father time catch up with both of them, I see them as a mid to low level play-off team. I do not think Rajon is on the level of Kidd or Nash in their primes, and as time goes on, unless they make some radical changes, the Celtics timebomb will explode in the next 3 years completely. My guess is that they will be a team around 10-12 in the East with Rondo or Baby as their main scoring options. They may bring in some help by than, but if Rondo has to shoulder the scoring load, I see his shooting dipping even further. In three years, if Rondo is the Celtics main scoring option, I see him averaging 17-9-5, with a 45% shooting percentage and hopefully for him a slightly improved free throw percentage. But, I think the Celtics current roster is what puts him in consideration for being ranked more highly than he would by putting up bigger scoring numbers on a worse team.
I believe that boston will get one or two 2nd tier stars like Rudy Gay, Kevin Love, Lamarus Alridge, Monte Ellis before they get a super star back in boston post big three. But i agree that boston will not be down for long, because it is a bigger market and has a great fan base. I think the bigger question is what will they do after Doc leaves, because he a good match for the celtics culture. Rondo will be fine, he may even develop a little more due to having to carry the celtics, but they get him help sooner than later.
Obviously your one of the haters of him like you said earlier. Yes when he wants to score he scores more. Yes he will score more if he has to. Yes his team will always be good with him on it. Just like Rose,CP3. Their teams will always be strong as long as they are on the squad they will be in playoff hunt or in the playoffs. Rondo is that good Tongue out like 23, Not just my opinion. Ask Kobe,Lebron and all the other teams who they must stop. The answer is simple give your negatives. Rondo
He will score more and still get double figure assist. Rondo gets the ball to guys in perfect scoring position. People forget the year K.G was hurt and Ray Allen wasn't playing to well in the playoffs and Paul P wasn't playing that well rondo still got alot of assist. All he needs is guy's who can make layups because he gets in the lane at will and draws other defenders to him which allows him to get assist
and wide open jump shots. Thats what he does. The year KG was hurt in the playoffs he average a triple d and scored about 19 a game.
Lets hope he can devolpe a jumpshot before that happens.
I believe that he is leading the league in assists of lay-ups (nobody was in his league in this stat earlier in the year). I think he will still average double figures in assists once the big three is no more.
He will still be an awesome passer, and he wil have to, by nessecity score more. However, i dont think he will be nearly good enough to be the top player on a top team.
his assists will obviously decrease as his scoring will increase, he'll have to be more of a weapon offensively then a facilitator, probably only for a year or two before boston realizes he won't excel in that role ... he doesn't have the offensive game to be a leading scorer for a contender, right now there are so many weapons around him, a perfect combination of talents as well ... but rondo will still be an excellent fiesty defender, good at running the show from the pg position, but not an efficient and effective scorer ...
... for that reason, does anyone think the celtics should see what it would take to pry dwill away from utah? with all the turmoil there, if they'd be willing to trade him for rondo, isn't that a good move for the celtics?
Let's see who are his teammates when that time comes
When the Big 3 move on-if Rondo's jumper stays at the level its been his entire NBA career-then I see his scoring going up a bit, assists a little down, and shooting percentages also going down. I think he'd be something like a 15-5-10 player with a shooting line of around 47-30-65.
For the future, having a PG who can score better than Rondo could possibly help them win a few more games, but as the team is now, there is no reason at all to try and make that move. Rondo is the perfect player to be paired up with this team, no need to tinker with what is already a championship caliber lineup.
Well, hopefully, Rondo will have a jumper by then. He'll be fine. Still one of the best point guards in the league. Top five.
I think he could potentially be Jason Kidd 2.0 and maybe better, and surprise us. 18pts 7-8reb and 11asts is very getable for him. And he could lead the league in triple doubles. But if he gets a jumpshot, who knows...