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what Stern should do to solve the most damaging thing in NBA

imo the worst thing about the NBA is implications that resultant from the lottery, things like: teams tanking, teams come into the season with acceptation to be bad and managements not working on making their teams better right now, things like that hurt and make bad feeling about NBA, hurt the watching experience, the competitiveness in the league overall, the credibility and the excitement.

on the other hand i agree that the lottery has good purpose to give the worst teams more chance to get better.

now with that said i want to make an offer, i think i have original system how to make the lottery that much better than the current one, system that will repair a lot from the bad things of today.

my idea is like this: two worst record teams of the regular season will not participate in the lottery draw, instead they will get automatic the 4 and 5 spot in the draft, the others 12 non playoffs teams will make lottery draw in today style to decide the remaining spots in the lottery.

this idea will cause that will be no guarantee for teams who finish the worst the get price about it, it will cause that will be much more harder to tank and for teams not to begin with this generally, it will make teams to come into the season in intention to be their best, managements will understand that the better for them is to work on making their teams better and to make moves to improve the teams instantaneously.

you can say what you want about my system, but i'm sure that in the big picture it's will make for the league and the fans great and important service, it will improve all the bad things i mentioned.


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Pretty Harsh

As much as it would give teams serious worry about finishing in the bottom two spots, some teams as a matter of fact, are just bad. The Timberwolves and Cavs are two teams that were indeed really bad teams. I see what you are saying as far as providing incentive not to tank, and that it is unfair to the fans of consistently bad franchises, but I think the lottery already provides some incentive as well.

The two worst teams have a 25% and 19.9% chance at getting the first pick. Usually, the team that finishes with the worst record does not end up with the top pick, that happens often. I think removing those two teams from contention of the picks with the best odds of drafting the highest quality players would be much more unfair and shady than the original system. Also, it would lead to just more speculation that the NBA is handpicking teams to make better.

I do not see this system making the lottery system any better, and while it might give incentive so as not to be the bottom team, it also would give incentive to suck just enough so as having better chances in the lottery. It might stop the bottom two teams from tanking, but it would not stop 3-14. If anything, the teams in the middle of the pack would just try to move down. I personally think the lottery works fine, and teams that tank are usually not rewarded. To me, that is better than the bottom team always picking first, the coin flip or any other system. Yes, it has a conspiracy factor attached to it, but all in all, I do not see how it has been such a bad system.

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It's hard for me to say the

It's hard for me to say the lottery system is the worst thing about the NBA when Joe Johnson gets a $120 million contract.

18.2 ppg this year, down a full 3 ppg from last season with the third highest PER in his team's starting lineup. 5 more years to look forward to guys!

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but they are up 1 to 0 in a series in the second round against the overall best team in the league. joe johnson was a big reason for the win last night. im sure at the moment atlanta is happy with the contract. at the same time, i get your point. the thing kobyz mentioned isnt a very well thought of idea and isnt that big of an issue right now. i think max contacts are wayyy too high right now. i mean the salary cap is like 58 mil(guessing) and some players make well over 20 mil which is more than a third of the cap. that shouldnt happen. in a few years, i think the lakers are locked into kobe and gasol for like 48mil, just for 2 players!! that is the flaw right now and that is why owners will lockout this summer. i dont know if they are losing money now, but i could see it being an issue down the road, which is why the owners are addressing it.

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I think it is fair. Teams

I think it is fair. Teams tanked more when the worst team was guaranteed to get the first pick.

But, the drawing isn't live. I think it should be live. As long as the real drawing is off camera then the conspiracy theories of Ewing to the Knicks, LeBron to the Cavs, and Rose to the Bulls, etc. will continue.

I think that perhaps the worst team should have more of a chance to win, maybe 1 in 3 instead of 1 in 4. I have seen some people say that EVERY team in the league should have a chance to win the lottery. That sounds interesting, but I don't think it is fair to the worst teams.

I think one idea that would be neat would be a WILD CARD pick. The number one pick will be picked the same way but with the worst teams getting a better chance to win, but after all the lottery teams pick then THE NEXT PICK in the draft will be open to all the teams. So after the 14th pick the NBA would create another pick (effectively extending the first round by another draft pick), which would be decided by lottery with EVERY team having an equal chance to win. That would give EVERY team in the league an equal shot at getting a good draft pick, but it wouldn't adversely affect the worst teams (i.e., the teams that need a top pick the most). ... I think it would make things interesting and give non-lottery teams an equal shot at getting another good player.

This year the WILD CARD pick would be 15, and that team would have a shot at getting Trey Thompkins or Kawhi Leonard. Tyler Honeycutt, Jordan Hamilton, and Chris Singleton might also be there. Those are solid players. Every year the WILD CARD winner would get a chance at drafting a very solid player. I guess in one way that would hurt teams at the 7th and 8th seeds because they get to pick starting at 16 instead of 15, but that is mitigated by the fact that they have a chance to get another player (perhaps 15 AND 16).

Or they could do TWO WILD CARD picks. The first one would give an equal chance to all non-playoff teams. They would have a chance to get the 15th pick. Then the playoff teams would all have an equal shot at winning the 16th pick. That could help teams who are in that 35 win range who aren't terrible but they aren't good enough to make the playoffs either. The second WILD CARD pick might help a team who is in that 45 win range who get to the playoffs every year but lose in the first round.

Right now, the lottery isn't fair to the worst teams. I think the worst teams need a better shot at getting the top pick. But, I also like opening up another WILD CARD pick to lottery teams and another to playoff teams. That would give the non-elite (top 2 seeds in each division) playoff teams a chance to get another good draft pick.

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Why not just play the draft smart?

Its not a bad system. I mean the 4th and 5th picks are not always bad and are often times better picks because good players are still available. But it would kind of suck for the teams that are just plain bad even without tanking. They may play hard but in the end still end up with horrible record because they just plain suck not because they are tanking. (Cavs and Wolves come to mind this year.)

Not quite sure the "Wildcard pick" idea is really needed. I mean why should every team get a chance to win the lottery? (even the good teams) Why should every team have a chance to possibly get the steal of the draft? (even the good teams.) Teams can just also just play the draft smart like the Spurs and Thunder do.

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If you think teams tank now,

If you think teams tank now, just wait and see how they would tank if they did it like the NFL, where the team with the worst record gets the first overall pick and so on......

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No, if there were a wild card

No, if there were a wild card pick then every team would have an equal chance to win the 15th pick. Would be a consolation prize to a non-serious contender who still makes the playoffs and thus non-eligible for the lottery. It could give one of those teams a solid draft pick.

OR with two wild card picks (the 15th and 16th pick) the 15th pick goes to a lottery team (with each team having an equal chance to win it). With the 16th pick every playoff team would have an equal shot at getting the pick.

I would also give the worst team in the league a 30% chance of winning the lottery (slightly higher). I think that it is not fair when the worst team rarely gets the first pick, and oftentimes the two worst teams don't get the top pick. I think the worst 5 teams should have an 80% chance of winning the lottery. The WILD CARD pick at 15 then would give some help to the other lottery teams.

The WILD CARD pick at 16 would give team's in playoff no-man's land (teams that pick from 20-25) a solid chance at getting a higher draft pick (and, more importantly, an extra draft pick). Then they can draft another good player or sell the pick for needed cash.

This plan (with higher odds of the worst team getting the 1st pick, and two extra WILD CARD picks) will give EVERY team in the league a chance to improve through the draft.

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No, if there were a wild card

No, if there were a wild card pick then every team would have an equal chance to win the 15th pick. Would be a consolation prize to a non-serious contender who still makes the playoffs and thus non-eligible for the lottery. It could give one of those teams a solid draft pick.

OR with two wild card picks (the 15th and 16th pick) the 15th pick goes to a lottery team (with each team having an equal chance to win it). With the 16th pick every playoff team would have an equal shot at getting the pick.

I would also give the worst team in the league a 30% chance of winning the lottery (slightly higher). I think that it is not fair when the worst team rarely gets the first pick, and oftentimes the two worst teams don't get the top pick. I think the worst 5 teams should have an 80% chance of winning the lottery. The WILD CARD pick at 15 then would give some help to the other lottery teams.

The WILD CARD pick at 16 would give team's in playoff no-man's land (teams that pick from 20-25) a solid chance at getting a higher draft pick (and, more importantly, an extra draft pick). Then they can draft another good player or sell the pick for needed cash.

This plan (with higher odds of the worst team getting the 1st pick, and two extra WILD CARD picks) will give EVERY team in the league a chance to improve through the draft.

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There are much worse things

There are much worse things in the NBA than the lottery, if anything the lottery is protectant against teams tanking. It allows more variation in the picks than one thinks.

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The lottery was brought in

The lottery was brought in around 1985 as the team with the worse record always had top pick until then, Houston got Ralph Sampson in 1983 and Hakeem the Dream in 1984 and with Patrick Ewing coming out in 1985 then teams were facing another potential superstar as first pick so the temptation to tank was greater than ever.

I've read stories how the first draft lottery was done by envelope and the Knicks envelope was apparently cooled so they would know which to pick etc but nothing was ever proved.

I like the current draft lottery but the 4th and 5th picks is a good idea but discriminates against the weakest teams and gives better teams a bigger chance to get the top pick. A totally random idea might be that you offer the top team the guaranteed 2nd pick or 3rd pick if they withdraw from the lottery and thus get no chance of the top pick, that would be a good question to pose to GM's. 2nd pick a lot would take but 3rd when the lottery offers you a worse downside of 4th I doubt they would bite and a lot would depend on draft depth.

Or as a more serious idea open up the draft lottery to the top 5 picks, the worse teams would surely still come out in there but you may get a few more teams moving up say from 12th to 5th for example. Or even you maybe have two lotteries for the top 2 or 3 places for the 7 or 8 worse teams and then say for 8th and 9th place from the next 6 or 7 teams. This protects the worse teams but also gives other none play off teams more chance to move up a few places in the draft.

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I think every team in the

I think every team in the league should have a shot at the #1 pick... or #2 or#3 etc etc. A lottery with odds based on where you finished the season similar to what we have now except it would include every team. After your team has been selected, turn the machine back on and draft for the next spot.

Team with the worst record gets a 20%, 2nd worse gets a 17%, 3rd 14% 4th 10% 5th 8% 6th 6% ... thats 75% of the balls right there. the other 25% could be distributed in decending order to the rest of the teams in the league ensuring that the best overall team in the league still gets at least a .1% chance. Once the first 6 teams are out of the way things get pretty interesting... even if it takes 10 picks to get there. There would be no limit to how far you could fall or how high you could jump. It would allow great teams to still have hope they could strike gold and fans saying "could you imagine if we won?" Granted the conference finalists might only come away with a 1% combined to get the top pick but its still something. Thats what a lottery is.

Obviously the percentages a pretty subjective but the idea remains the same. The title winner SHOULD still get a chance in hell of getting the number one pick even it it is only a tenth of a percent. The other finalist could get a .20 percent or something along those lines.

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