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What the Knicks should do...

I am pretty tired of hearing about the Knicks getting a big time FA this year. Even if they get a guy like Joe Johnson, its not going to help. They are going to have to watch that players talent waste away while surrounded by average joes. One stud with 11 nobodies doesnt help. The Knicks need to change their thought process. Somebody send this to Mike D'Antoni ASAP:

Start Young - This is something that I dont understand. They are going to end up paying a guy that is in or past his prime to come in and lose. Someone is going to get a max deal or a crazy deal, like Hedo did, and they will regret it in a couple years, just like the Raptors will. Instead of going after a guy like JJ, why not do everything in your power to get a young PG that fits your system. Try like hell to get Rubio, Curry, or Collison. Any of these three guys, except maybe Curry, are obtainable. Curry may even be had if you can offer something sweet enough. PG is the most important position in a D'Antoni system so why not get one that will be great for years to come.

Get Draft Picks - Every time you make a trade or dump some salary, try to get a pick. It doesnt matter if it is only a second round pick, try to get one thrown in. The great thing about the Knicks system is that anyone can play in it. Guys who have not played in years, Bender, can come to the Knicks and play. Imagine what young guys, who have been crapped on by every team in the league so far, by not being picked, can do when they have something to prove. Lance Stevenson and Keith Gallon would both be good fits for the Knicks. They would come at a low price and low level of commitment. It is almost a no lose situation.

Win Now - Unless you are rebuilding, put yourself in the best position to win. You already dont have draft picks so you dont even have a shot at the lottery if you suck. Why not try to get some players that will, first off, play and, second, win. Every time the Knicks look to make trades, they dont have the team in mind, they only have the Money in mind. It seems to run everything they do. That shoudnt be how an NBA team works. Its crazy.

I know that none of this is going to happen but can you imagine the excitement in NY if they got Rubio??? That may be as big as getting Joe Johnson or someone other than LBJ and Wade. If they were to let Lee go, which they will, and somehow get Gallon in there via draft or signing, they could maximize his talent.

Wouldnt this lineup be exciting??

PG: Rubio
SG: Stevenson
SF: Chandler
PF: Gallo
C: Barron
6th: Gallon
7th: Douglas
8th: Walker

They would be young, fast, and defensive for a D'Antoni team. They might not be very good but they would be fun to watch. After-all, isnt that the appeal of a D'Antoni team?? This makes them young, gives them a system PG, and when you are this young, you dont have to win now. Let these guys grow and take some losses. Sometimes that is the best way to lose..

What would be even better is if they could pry a nice PF from someone to pair with Rubio.. Lets stick to this young thing and say Blake Griffin....

Can you imagine that pick and roll?? Phew, it makes me gitty just thinking about it. I know that is out of the realm of possibility but it would be so sweet.


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lol..dude that lineup you

lol..dude that lineup you have wont win 20 games..and your bench is terrible...but with some crafty moves this summer..the knicks can put together a team that can make the playoffs...

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From last year when I heard

From last year when I heard that the Knicks were clearing cap room to land a big free agent I had to laugh. No big name players care about playing in New York. They know there are too much distractions in that city. When is the last time a big free agent went to the Knicks? Shoot, Amar'e Stoudemire talks more about going to the Nets than the Knicks. Lebron is just playing them guys for fools and Bosh and Wade have already stated they have no desire to go to the Knicks. Have fun overpaying Joe Johnson.

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Exciting lineup?

I can tell your clearly not a knicks fan or know much about winning basketball. Rubio will only be good with a good set of players around him. Barron and Gallon should be nowhere near the top 8 players in a rotation unless your goal is the number 1 pick in the draft next year. And adding blake griffin wont change its fortunes. Your picknroll will be exciting for the first 10 games and then when were 0-10 you gitty attitude will be reduced to tears as we chase all time losing history.

PS. Lebron WILL lose this year to either boston(possible) or magic(definitely) proceeded by him storming the court and crying like a little girl. Then summer will come along and he will be offered a blank canvas in ny and will hand pick himself a team and average 35-10-10 in D'antonis system. That should make you gitty not gallon who played on a sub-500 team in college loaded with all americans

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The Knicks

They could easily become the Kings of the East...The Webber and J. Will run and gun Kings

They have to try a sign and Trade With Lee..Possibly trade partners...Okc(J.Green/Maynor and Picks).Chi(Hinrich,Deng and picks).Mil.(Redd,Gadzuric and future picks).Mia(Beasley and picks).Phi.(Iggy,L.Williams and future picks) TWolves( Flynn or Rubio/Love and Picks) probably have to add Chandler or Free Agent Gay???to this trade..They'd get young pieces from all these teams...I like the T'Wolves idea most for both teams...The Sixers trade more for NY This year...OkC has a goodpackage to offer and of Course probably the best match as they have cap room to sign Lee outright...Bulls can as well but I think they're going guard in FA...Wade or JJ Imo..but they'd love to have Lee...Iggy would be only star type player you'd get in those scenarios..L.Williams would be good scorer and Future picks help with the loss of picks to Houston...Beasley would be another that jumps out...he could good in system alongside a young point and 2nd tier FA's...The Bucks deal sounds off but Redd could come back and at least be another TMac for them...his contract would come off books in time to try and sign Melo if you strike out on Lebron...I doubt Melo would pass on NY if Lebron does..Either way the bucks deal does give you another 25 mil expiring next year...think about that one...Which trade do you make Lee to philly for your Marion type slasher or Eddie Jones lock down wing ..Lee to Mia for Beasley...Lee to Minny for Love,Flynn(I doubt they give up Rubio) or Lee to Bucks for Redd and Gadruzic's expiring... and the Melo Cup 2011...of course picks are in play as well

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i was born in and raised in

i was born in and raised in NYC and i agree with everyone of you the knicks freed up all of that money for what to get players like joe johnson and rudy gay IMO, because there is no way in hell wade,james and bosh come here to play,why would they and who would they play with, everyday i hear dont root for the knicks once we get lebron and bosh but anyone who knows basketball knows these guys want to win and comming to NYC wont be the way to go, that roster wont be better then a D league team or a college team once the summer starts, and i truly think when they dont get 1 of those three guys they will overpay players who IMO are underachievers in Joe johnson and rudy gay who have worlds of talent but have that i dont want to be a superstar attitude, joe johnson has the potential and talent to be so much better then what he i, i think he is complacent with avg 20,4,4 and always getting bumped out in the first or second round, and rudy gay if he ever utilized his potential and talents could be a top 10 player in the nba in the future but i just dont see the drive and the work ethic from him........therefore the knicks will be below 500 for the next couple of seasons unless they stop trading away there picks and fire d.antoni because no one wins in that system ok you can win a bunch of games but the suns had so much talent compared to the knicks who have very little and you will not win a championship trying to outscore teams and not being able to stop teams

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crazy...

u really think new yorkers would want another unproven euro guy who their gonna have to wait years to do anything even special instead of someone like amare and JJ? man please. Hell, timberwolves fans werent even that excited. First of all they need to get rid of the coach. He can't teach defense which is why none of his star studded suns teams got over the hump. That plus his rotations sucks. So sure, the lineup you say would be exciting, and still get blown out every single night. No real fire power, no real stars, no real defenders. The knicks need one dominant player they can stick the team name on a build around...your not building around anyone in your list (no not gallo or rubio) and aren't going to just take over and win you games the way superstars like lebron, wade would or even B list stars like jj and bosh.

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My Take On NY

I've said all along that positioning yourself for Free Agency is a major gamble. If it doesn't work out, the Knicks are in big trouble. To me, the best way to build for the future is through the draft and an occasional FA signing. I think they'll get someone good this summer, but it probably won't be a savior.

I have a couple of other comments. I agree with some of what bron42 said about D'Antoni. I think he's a very good coach, but the man is determined to go with an 8 man rotation. I think that's a path to failure. Does the coach have an open mind? Can he adapt? That remains to be seen.

Why do people want to trade David Lee? The man is a walking Double Double. Do you know how hard it is to find players who can do that? Of course he's terrible on defense and over matched at the center position. They have to move him back to PF.

Yes the Knicks have some good young talent but they desperately need a big man who can play defense and block shots.

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i would take rudy gay for

i would take rudy gay for like 12 mil a season, i think he could get 25 and 8, but other than that i wouldnt take anyone other than lebron or wade. i mean gay is still young and if you get another star down the road, we know that rudy can defer and still get 20 a game. nyc does need a point guard(a legit one), i think collison would be a good fit but dont know if nyc has the pieces to get him. this team has alot of holes that need to be filled. maybe they can sign a guy like gay and play the year out and be close to 500 and maybe a team will have been less than they expected, and they can use curry in a trade as cap relief. but this team needs to stop giving away draft picks unless you are getting sure fire all stars. build through the draft and get steals like rondo, parker, ginobili, etc.

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i would take rudy gay for

i would take rudy gay for like 12 mil a season, i think he could get 25 and 8, but other than that i wouldnt take anyone other than lebron or wade. i mean gay is still young and if you get another star down the road, we know that rudy can defer and still get 20 a game. nyc does need a point guard(a legit one), i think collison would be a good fit but dont know if nyc has the pieces to get him. this team has alot of holes that need to be filled. maybe they can sign a guy like gay and play the year out and be close to 500 and maybe a team will have been less than they expected, and they can use curry in a trade as cap relief. but this team needs to stop giving away draft picks unless you are getting sure fire all stars. build through the draft and get steals like rondo, parker, ginobili, etc.

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Build for 2011-2012

The Knicks have so many options if I were GM I would definitely start young and add veteran role players. Championships are built from the inside out. They should build for the 2011-2012 season and here's what i'd do. First Move is getting a Franchise C or PF between 6'10 and 7'0, very mobile and athletic with a decent jumpshot. Candidates would be Al Horford- FA 2011 he bangs inside and can be a top Offensive and Defnsive Big in the league he can play either 4 or 5 and wont command MAX money. Next is a dominate wing who can score run the floor and bring star appeal, Carmelo Anthony, if you ask me he will be a Knick, he's a city boy has the ability to play 3 and 4 and could play some 2 if he were a lil faster. he can give you 20 in a quarter and gives defenses headaches and commands double teams would be the only MAX player. Your PG is the coach on the floor a leader who does everything you want as a coach. for D'Antonio its push the ball, hit the open jumpshot and if you wanna win a title its defend. A possibilty is Devin Harris, he may be the best PG available since the Nets might get Wall and he wont command MAX mone either.

Big 3- Anthony, Horford, Harris

Now add role players a perimeter defender ala Artest, Ariza, Barnes, they have Wilson Chandler and I would hang on to him he can play 2 and 3 defend 3 positions and shoot. Mike Miller can shoot shoot and shoot he is gettin old but look at Richardson and Hill they play in a somewhat D'Antonio system he can do the same plus handle the ball. If I was the Knicks I'd do everything in my power to get Kemba Walker in the 2011 draft he he woulda came out this year he'd be the 2nd best PG prospect but stay with Toney Douglas for this year. Gallo will most likely stay but they need another solid big and defnesive big off the bench two bigs in mind are Tyrus Thomas he can defend the 4 men that wander around the three point arch and block shots rebound and run the floor and Brendan Haywood solid big rebound defend do dirty work. I would move Gallo for a good shooting and passing 4 man who's attainable like Kevin Love and maybe in return get Rubio too(longshot) if not I think a good fit would be Boris Diaw. Instant Offense would be the next move someone like JR Smithwould probally realize his potential in D'Antoni's system. Gat another wing for insurance maybe keep Bill Walker and hope he can get all the way back to himself. and get a veteran PG maybe Rafer Alston

Role Players- Smith, Love, Thomas, Haywood, Miller, Chandler, Walker, Alston

In this years draft get two second rounders and draft Stephenson and Caracter why Stephenson has the hype and at a young age was going at it with OJ Mayo. and Caracter can be a Millsap/Davis/Blair type player in the future. In 2011 get Kemba I'm so high on him he is Tim Hardaway all the way probally not as good but shows a similiar game.

Draft- Stephenson, Caracter, Walker(2011)

So in 2011-2012 the Knicks will have a solid young explosive experienced team with the right mix of young pieces and vets.

2011-2012
C- Al Horford/ Brendan Haywood
F- Kevin Love/ Tyrus Thomas/ Derrick Caracter
F- Carmelo Anthony/ Mike Miller/ Bill Walker
G- Wilson Chandler/ JR Smith/ Lance Stephenson
G- Devin Harris/ Kemba Walker/ Rafer Alston

This team can win an NBA Championship if the have chemistry and discipline if I'm wrong hey but I see a title maybe 2

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I like that idea although the

I like that idea although the only thing is they traded their draft picks for the next 2 years so there is no rebuilding aloud.They have to go all in this summer

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Okay. Look, I dont need

Okay. Look, I dont need anyone to tell me what I know or dont know about winning basketball. I even said this team would be bad but if I were the Knicks, I would do something to get a PG in the system. Duhon and Sergio arent getting it done. People need to stop putting others down when they clearly dont know anything about them.

Someone said something about international players?? Mike D loves international players. He plays the type of ball that is played over seas.

This is just a change from the every day post of the Knicks getting 4 terrific players. I mean &$#%#&@!, this is crazy. Nobody is going to NY!! You are going to pay Joe Johnson the same amount of money that Kobe and Lebron are making when he clearly isnt worth it.

I get so sick of hearing that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh are going to play with the Knicks. This is just insane. Knicks fans, most of them, are unrealistic and stubborn. Nobody is going to tell them that they arent getting what they want.

How come no other fan base is so so far gone? No other team is making these claims.

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Yah the knicks franchise

Yah the knicks franchise really &$#%#&@! up this time trading away all there picks and Jordan Hill....They are in worse shape than any team in the NBA in my opinion

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Right Right

They can do a sign and trade and get picks for Lee ?maybe? a lot of possiblities they just have to be relentless

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If They

To be successful the knicks have to get two stars, they sold this crockpot plan to their fans, so they have to make it pay off, Johnson will go, but they have to get amare or boozer to keep their fans happy and to win some games. If I was David Lee I would say screw them and go to the Thunder where he'd be appreciated and PERFECT!

The Knicks also have to decide on their PG situation Kyle Lowry may be an interesting pickup if the Rockets dont want to match. But Duhon and Toney Douglass cannot usher you into the new glory days. They do have two early second rounders that could help them a lot if say a Sheron Collins or Grievis Vasquez fell to them, we see the success of veteran point guards from solid systems lately(Ty Lawson, Darren Collison,etc)

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what about Scottie

Draft Reynolds and Lance Stephenson to help with the guard spots...sign and trade Lee and E.Curry for Iggy and Dalembert ...Sign Amare or Boozer...get a starting point guard through sign and trade...Monte Ellis for whoever they sign after Amare...say they sign JJ or Gay..simply trade them to GState for Ellis...look at the line if and when Lebron passes NY up...

Ellis(thru. S and T)
Azubuke(FA on the cheap)
Iggy( Through sign and Trade for Lee)
Amare( Franchise 4 )
Dalembert( Traded for Curry ..gone after one year)
Gallo
Chandler
Douglas
Reynold
Stephenson
Barron
Walker
Etc. Etc. Etc..They'd still have the $$$ for other pieces...Shooter/3rd big man

What do you think Lee and Curry for Iggy and Dalembert maybe Future 1st rounder in 2011 or 2012
they get younger and faster...Iggy could be their Marion...and they get a Center for a year and a possible pick in future draft...

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