Irving is having one of the best rookie years in ever. He looks amazing this year, and this is with 11 games at Duke and almost no training camp. If he had stayed at Duke, how good would they be? He made Mason Plumlee look extremely good, and he and Rivers would form an amazing backcourt. I could actually see Rivers numbers improving with Kyrie, as he wouldn't get doubled on drives like he does now. I know I'm playing the what-if game (Duke just lost again to an unranked team at home), but I'm just dreaming. Anyway, I say with Irving they would be the best team. Thoughts?
If Kyrie wus still there i doubt Rivers goes to Duke. Rivers is ver ball dependent and Kyrie though unselfish take possesions out of his hands. I think Rivers clearly wanted 2 be in a situation where he was the man, at 1 time he and Brad Beal were both commited 2 Florida and Rivers decommitted.
Rivers was committed to Duke before the season ended knowing Kyrie would maybe stay. He even said when he first committed something about playing with Irving and Dawkins
Rivers committed to Duke in late September of 2010, when it was still up in the air whether or not Kyrie Irving would be a one and done.
Coach K said after summer practices that Kyrie WOULD be a one and done, but I'm pretty sure the rest of the media slept on him and didn't think he'd be that good even in college.
Throughout Austin's senior year he stated on numerous occasions that he would love to play with Kyrie at Duke, and they also were part of an electric backcourt on the U18 USA Men's basketball team. Austin Rivers led all scorers on the USA squad with 20.2 ppg and Kyrie led the squad in assists and was third in scoring behind Quincy Miller.
I personally think they would've complemented eachother very well and it would have eased Austin's transition to college if he had a guy like Kyrie on the team much like how Kyrie had Nolan Smith as his backcourt mate when he was a freshman.
But alas, this is all what if questions, and it pangs my heart remembering that we only had Kyrie for 8 games healthy...
Oh and I'd say he'd be the leading candidate for NPOY as well...hell he might've won it last year too if he didn't get hurt.
I remember after his impressive performances against Kalin Lucas and Jacob Pullen (31 pts against the preseason #2 team), many analysts said that either him or Kemba Walker (this was before the Jimmermania went full steam) were the best players in the country.
Irving is shocking me, honestly trampling my expectations. The guy can score in traffic with the best of the best as a rook. He is crafty as any veteran and only getting better. Great PG.
Duke really lack a true point guard or a point with enough experience. Irving would solidify that position. Rivers would of benefitted with a guy like Irving at the point. Kyrie is a tremendous talent that's why Coach K called it at the beginning of his freshman year.
Kyrie played at St. Patrick's in Jersey with a MKG a nobable talent. The transition for Kyrie was easier than most freshmen because his HS team had a system close to the college game, now his transition to Duke was easy because he already played in a college like system in HS plus he's a great talent regardless of his 11 games played at Duke. MGK may be the best Freshman in his class and if you actually pay attention he is in a system that he fits right into at UK.
Scout should play closer details to the systems High School players play in and the system they are about to play in their freshman year to make early season predictions. Most freshman were the center of their HS teams with two to three other potential D1 talent around them, so realistically their teams are really built for their style of play. Now lets look at the transition to the college game. Most successful college programs have their own systems, players coming in that don't have an idea of the set run in college will always be benched or get little playing time. There are numerous HS with the College like systems like Findlay prep, St. Patrick's, Notre Dame just to name a few. Now if you pay closer attention to their recent top freshmen players they are right up there with the best performed freshman in the last two years because their HS have the coaches that have an idea of the system run in college. People wonder why Tristan Thompson was pick so high, he's a system guy not saying he's not talent he definitely is. Now lets look at last June's draft, two of the top five picks came from two of the high schools I just mentioned (St. Patrick's and Findlay Prep).
Incoming freshman's to pay attention to Kyle Anderson and Mitch McGary will surprise people due to their play. I know Mitch is a bit overrated but His IQ for a HS players is High and he will fit right in there at Michigan. Kyle on the other hand plays in an excellent basketball system in HS and UCLA is a great fit for Him.
My point on this topic is clear scouts/experts should pay more details to players and their HS system and the system they are about to play in to make predictions. Look at the style of play does he or does he not fit in that style simple analysis. Kyrie is success is simple, his understanding for the college game was understood at the High School level same for many others and for some it happens in college. What college does is prepare you for the Pro.
Duke would be a much better team and wouldn't be in such a predicament at PG that they don't know who to trust with the game on the line at that position.
If Kyrie had stayed the draft would have been...terrible
He wouldn't have been the #1 pick and would have missed out on a lot of money.