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What happened to impact Rookies

As i was reading a hoopsworld article i started to wonder as they wondered , what happened to the impact rookies????..Yeah T.Evans, Eric gordan are nice but they aren't franchise players like int he past. In the Past top pick players made the team better instantly while putting up stats. These days the rookies come in and put up stats but dont make the team better. I wonder does it have to do with players not staying in college longer and fully developing?


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Blake Griffin?

Blake Griffin?

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Brandon Jennings?

Brandon Jennings?

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OPEN YOUR EYES LAKESHOW

Isnt Derrick Rose a franchise player? Blake Griffin? Brandon Jennings is the reason why the Bucks are sniffing the playoffs. Russell Westbrook? And those are just players in the last 3 years that has come from the draft.

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I disagree, there's been

I disagree, there's been dozens of impact rookies. It all depends on what you mean by "impact"

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Impact like in the past where

Impact like in the past where you had 3 or more impact guys each draft that made there teams better?.They weren't just a part of making them better they were the main reason. Its not the same like back then. Yes there are guys who have helped make a team better as a rookie but the bulls were already a playoff team before Rose got there and ben gordan was just as much the reason they made it that year.Yes Blake is a impact rookie.

Name the dozen of impact rookies who came in and made the team much better and were the main reason

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Well there werent as many

Well there werent as many teams as there are now. Teams like the Bobcats, Wolves, Magic, Raptors, and Griz didn't exist until the last couple of decades, so teams had more choices and better success with players. It's always been unusual for a rookie to come into the league and turn a franchise around, even more so because the level of play has sky rocketed. Thats why you have to respect a guy like Landry Fields for being as productive as he has been.

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There weren't even many

There weren't even many impact rookies back in the 90's if that's what your talking about, theres just as many then as there is now.

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A rookie can make an impact

A rookie can make an impact on a team, but they can turn a franchise around on a dime. It takes time... People say Jennings was an impact, which he was, but he was in the right situation too. The Bucks helped Jennings more than Jennings helped him, and that's how it needs to be in order for a rookie to make the kind of impact you're talking about.

Rose, Griffin, Durant, Beasley, Westbrook, Evans, Gordon, Curry, and there are other young players who are the future of the NBA. It's hard to expect 1 or even 2 top 5 lottery picks to instantly make an impact on a team like that. OKC just happen to get lucky to be able to build through the lottery and got the best scorer of this generation and an all-star caliber, up and coming PG. Can't expect every team to get "impact players" like that every lottery, and the ones that happen to be impact players need help especially in a league that has stacked teams in both conferences. It's not strange that the best teams usually have the more aggressive owners/front office, better coaches, and better players are the outcome...

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Glenn Robinson, grant hill,

Glenn Robinson, grant hill, jerry stackhouse etc came in and made the teams better from day one. Espn has a list of players and comparisions so its not even a question if players made impacts then compared to now. Tyreke Evans didn't make Sac town any better as a rookie.

Ithink it has more to do with guys staying longer in college and developing there game before they come into the leauge compared to now. Guys where more ready because the competition level was higher in college4 since good players stayed longer. We had a conversation on here before about that how soooo many teams had sure fire NBA talent in college even some mid majors. Im not saying these players wont turn into franchise players because they can develop into them the point was as rookies, the rookies of yesterday were more prepared to come in and lead teams to more wins. Not tryin gto debate because its not even debatable

Basically i answered my own question to why rookies were more impactful back then as far as coming in and making the team better and getting more wins in year one. has nothing to do with more teams

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Glenn Robinson, grant hill,

Glenn Robinson, grant hill, jerry stackhouse etc came in and made the teams better from day one. Espn has a list of players and comparisions so its not even a question if players made impacts then compared to now. Tyreke Evans didn't make Sac town any better as a rookie.

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Actually that's not right.

Jerry Stackhouse did not make the 76ers better, they finished his rookie season with 18 wins, 6 fewer than the previous season.

Tyreke Evans actually helped Sac town win 8 more games than they had the year before his rookie season. Which is actually the exact same win improvement that Detroit had with Grant Hill as a rookie.

Out of your three examples the only one that holds any water is Glenn Robinson and his Bucks still only had a mediocre 34-48 record despite a 14 game improvement.

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Impact like in the past where

Impact like in the past where you had 3 or more impact guys each draft that made there teams better?

Well...one player doesn't only make a team good but i understand what you mean. Superstar players haven't been coming out BUT....there still time and still potential superstars in the bunch

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Lebron James, Carmelo

Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Brandon Roy, Derrick Rose and now Blake Griffin are all examples of rookies that made immediate impacts for their teams over the last 8 years.

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yeah i was about to bring up

yeah i was about to bring up jerry stackhouse. The sixers won 18 games and he averaged 19 on 41% shooting. Not sure how thats better then waht tyreke evans did.

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I think there were way more

I think there were way more in the 1990's, just off the top of my head I got 14

1990's (no order)

Shaquille O'Neil, Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson, Elton Brand, Derrick Coleman, Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning, Steve Francis, Grant Hill, Jason Kidd, Dikembe Mutombo, Glen Robinson, Vince Carter, and Chris Webber

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there was more in the 90's

there was more in the 90's which is exactly what you would expect when guys routinely stayed in college longer. Guys that came in and played at or near all-star level from day 1? Shaq=3 years college, duncan=4years college, grant hill=4 years college, alonzo mourning=4 years college. Top prospects rarely stay that long these days. But by the time they hit season 2-3 they are right on par with the guys from the 90's in season's 2-3.

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you just came across a stupid article... thus making you stupid.

not everyone/ any one player, can make wonders happen for their team... experience comes from years of playing you dont just play with experience if that were true teams wouldnt have to rebuild... a team that you have to get props to before the Thunders were the Hawks Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Josh Smith, all top 10 talent in the drafts and they wouldve been better if the hitted on Shelden Williams, and Marvin Williams.... and even now some saw they still need experience but they are still pretty young and still can get better

sure there are the every now and again stars like in the 96 draft and the 03 draft but usually young guys come in and they need time as well as teammates and for rebuilding teams they usually get younger and lose more but over time with experience they will climb and a player that doesnt look so good now might later with experience play better

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Stackhouse was a slip up

Stackhouse was a slip up actually. And yeah i already said more players did it back in the day since they stayed in college and developed

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