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  • #66449
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    Celtics3178
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     There’s no team in this draft that needs to hit the nail on the hammer like the Kings. They traded cousins for peanuts, lost a 2019 draft pick and just look like an utter disaster in my opinion. I don’t think there’s an organization in more of a mess. They do have the 5 pick and 10 pick this year. Most of us can agree Fultz, Fox, Ball willl be gone. most likely Jackson or Tatum remain. If your the Kings what direction do you go in? I can honestly see them shocking everyone and taking issac. I would personally take whoever is left with Tatum or Jackson. Wouldn’t be shocked if they took Dennis Smith who I think I’d ideal for there current roster. I’m not a kings fan and have to be honest didn’t watch any of there games except when they played the Celtics. Curious to hear people’s thoughts on what they might do? My prediction is they shock the draft take issac 5 and ntilikina with 10. 

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  • #1099154
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    Honestly, if they get Smith, then I think they got their franchise player. It’s rare to get a franchise player out of the top 3 but Smith to me has that potential.

    Pair him with Cauley-Stein, who at times looks like prime Bogut with his passing and defense, Skal, Papagiannis and Hield and you got a bright future. Well, brighter than when Cousins was there.

     

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  • #1099155
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    rope
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     The best solution there is probably contraction. 

     

     

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  • #1099158
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    Hitster
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     They will get a shot at Smith or Tatum at 5 so that will fill one need potentially. The 10th pick will probably be BPA. If they have to take another young big then so be it – minutes can be shared about or they could look for a trade as 10th pick in this draft would have some suitors and it trumps Detroit who might have 12th pick in play.

    Would Philly be interested in 10th so Sac-Town can get 2019th first back I wonder. 

     

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    • #1099166
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      lakesideben
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       That would be like selling someone a car for 500 bucks, then buying it back 2 years later for $5,000

       

       

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      • #1099245
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        negguary
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        selling a car for 5000 and buying it back for 50! That 2019 pick could be top 3, this is the kings pick we’re talking about!

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  • #1099161
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    Chammes
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     You need a PG if fox is availble you should throw a party the size of Sacramento. If fox isnt on the board which he prolly wont i would go DSJ. If you draft a frontcourt player you have a logjam. Get anything other than a big.

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  • #1099168
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     I would take Isaac at 5 to be the long, athletic, scoring small forward of the future.  

    At 10, I am shoring up my front line with Lauri Markkanen.  Maybe not the best all-around guy out there, but he can shoot, score, and hit the 3.  He’s a 7 footer, too, so he can probably play some center.

    Between Isaac, Markkanen, Cauley-Stein, and Skal you have tons of different options on that front line… you can do a lot of different things there…

    At 34, I am gonna go with Frank Mason, III.  Maybe not as FLASHY as Fultz, or Fox, or Ball, or Smith, Jr., but he is a good floor general, a leader, a guy with intangibles, and a proven winner who produced at a high level last year.  

    As a VALUE PICK, Mason III if he is there at 34 is a good a value as anybody.

    That’s a great young core right there, those bigs, with Mason and then Buddy Hield as the hot-shot 2 guard.

    If Fox is there, and maybe he is, maybe he isn’t, then I STILL think Markkanen is the pick at 10 as the BPA available.  Then you hope Skal can play some 3… 

    If they go Fox and Markkanen, then at 34 they should look at Johnathon Motley as an all-around stretch forward.  I don’t see a ton of options at small forward, so I think Motley is the Best Player Available.  You can put Motley next to Markkanen or Stein or Skal. Then you have the big man spots covered…

    You can’t go wrong with a Fox/Hield backcourt.  Then a big man rotation of Markkanen, WCS, and Skal has a lot of upside.  In that case, if they still are looking for a small forward in the second round, then they might need to trade DOWN.  Trade 34 for 53 and 56 plus and future 2nd rounder or something like that… Nigel Hayes might be a good guy to plug-in at the 3.  You hope he is like DeMarre Carroll or Jae Crowder, just a solid option at small forward… 

    At 34, unless it is Mason, or a big like one of those power forwards, or Jordan Bell, or Johnathan Jeanne, I don’t see a ton of value there…

    The VALUE in this draft is in the top 10 or so… then in the second round.  

    ANOTHER thing they can do, which might actually make the most sense is get Fox at 5 then trade the 10th pick and the 34th pick (plus some cash and a future 2nd rounder) to Portland for 15, 20, and 26.

    Then you can get some extra help at a big man spot.  Get Justin Jackson at 15 as a solid all-around 3 and D wing. At 20, you can get another high level player.  At 26, you can get your extra big like Bell or Motley.  Or Harry Giles if he falls… 

    In that case, I go with Fox at 5, Justin Jackson at 15, then some combo of Bell, Motley, Giles, Ivan Rabb, OG Anunoby, or Bam Adebayo (if he is there) at 20 and 26.  

    I would go the straightforward route though, and get the BEST VALUE wing at 5 in Isaac, the BEST VALUE big man at 10 in Markkanen, and then the BEST Value point guard at 34 in Frank Mason, III.

    In that case, you are covered at the 3-5 spots, and you also have your backcourt of the future in Mason and Hield.

    In 2018, go after a 6th man type wing or forward in Miles Bridges, or Diallo, or Grayson Allen, or Allonzo Trier.  

    But after this draft your core is set: Hield, Mason, Isaac, Lauri, Skal, and WCS.  They even have Ben McLemore and Papagiannis.  

    The new look Kings are a big, athletic, flashy team that can SCORE and shoot from all 5 spots on the floor.

    They should peak just after the Warriors juggernaut starts to go into decline.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1099174
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    Smith and Markannen…easy peasy.

    Fox if available at 5.

    In the jason thompson era, they missed steph Curry, Kemba and Lillard, you’re not doing the same thing for ever to draft a project PF like Isaac or a Rudy Gay type at the 3.

     

     

     

     

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  • #1099177
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    I like Smith, Jr., too.  Lots of UPSIDE.  Absolutely AWESOME highlight package.  

    Has the potential to be the "dynamic point guard" of the future…

    Yeah, I think Lauri is the pick at 10.  That might put them a little stacked at the big man spots but Lauri is a 7 footer who can shoot, score, and rebound.  WCS is a versatile athlete as is Skal, so you can have some different combinations inside.  Papagianis is not a guy I know a lot about but he seems like a solid backup center type.  

    10 is too high to reach for a small forward like Justin Jackson.  Luke Kennard is a reach too, and is more of a shooting guard than a small forward.  

    Zach Collins might not have enough UPSIDE for the Kings to basically get a third young center.

    Mamadou, who do you take at 34?  With Smith and Markkanen you only need some help at small forward.  So you can go BPA for any player with vague small forward/wing ability, OR, you trade down…

    Looking ahead to next year: I think the Kings should be targeting Miles Bridges.  I like his ability at either forward spot, either starting or off the bench as a super sub.  Probably the top "VALUE" guy outside the top 5.  

    … this year, I don’t like Tatum that much.  Just an iso scorer who really isn’t that athletic or super dynamic.

    Fox, Isaac, and Smith, Jr. are the top guys on the board at 5… can’t really go wrong.  Then at 10, they should go BPA.  I think Markannen is that guy unless someone else really moves up.  

    I like Mason, III at 34 if they go with a couple of forwards in the first round (Isaac and Markannen.).

    If they go with Fox or Smith with Lauri, then at 34 I am thinking about depth at forward.  OG Anunoby can give you some things at either forward spot.  Motley is an athletic 4 who can do some things… Motley would basically be their fifth big behind Skal, Willie, Lauri, and the Greek dude.  

    If Luke Kennard falls, then you take him, even if he is more of a "big 2" than a 3… 

    If the Kings go for the "home run pick" at 5 with Smith, Jr. and at 10 with Lauri, then I think they go with OG at 34.  He can give you some help at either forward spot… An UPSIDE guy… 

    OG Anunoby would also be a hedge for next year’s draft if they don’t get a top 3 pick, nor one of the better wings, or Miles Bridges.  

    If the Kings are left to choose between random power forwards and random backup point guard types, then the Anunoby pick would make sense this year…

    This year, if the Kings get their guys at 5 and 10, and some of the better 4’s are off the board at 34, I wonder if they trade down to take a shot at Devin Robinson out of Florida…

    What about another Florida guy in Canyon Berry?  He could be a Moneyball version of Luke Kennard… probably not a small forward of the future, but if they have Smith/Fox along with Isaac/Lauri then they are just trying to fill out a roster with shooters and role players.  

    If they trade down for a late second rounder then Derek Willis could add value as a hustler/rebounder/3 point shooter at either forward spot… they could then have their 13th man of the future.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1099179
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     We don’t know where Philly or the Kings might be in two years time and 10th pick this year might appeal to Philly if there was someone they fancied there.

    I was thinking of doing something around 3rd for 5th and 10th and Philly send a lesser pick to Sac in 2018 or 2019 but cannot quite get it right.

     

     

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    • #1099182
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      Interesting idea but I think the Sixers need quality not quantity. Rather stay at 3 and take Jackson as I think he’s by far the BPA. If the Sixers were to make that deal they could get stuck with Tatum and Markkanen. Tatum is so not a Brett Brown player and Markkanen would be competing with Dario.

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      • #1099277
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        They’d definitely take Monk at 5 if they trade down.

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  • #1099184
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    sac trades up for Fox if Philly convinces them he is 76’er if they don’t.

    I doubt they are that stupid.But it is Sac.

    Or they roll the dice on bpa 1 of Fox,Ball,Tatum,or Jackson is a king.

    if bpa is a sf at 5 hopefully dallas passes on Ntikina or Monk & one falls to 10.Smith won’t fall to 10.

    If bpa is a pg at 5, they go Markanen,zCollins outside chance Og Anunoby or they overpick Giles at 10 unless Isaac somehow falls , but that is looking highly unlikely after his workouts in fact he may go in the top 5 himself.

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  • #1099192
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     Sac did not trade Cousins for peanuts. There wasn’t much of a market for him because of his attitude. They got what they could. Now I agree, it wasn’t the best deal, but the whole idea behind the Cousins trade was to start fresh. And that’s exactly what they did. So in my mind, mission accomplished. Good thing is they prepared for this rebuild early by getting WCS, finding your starter at SG in Buddy Heild, getting a good sixth man in Ben McLemore. Now they just need to find a PF, SF, and PG. Collison is a good mentor for that young PG. Either Fox or Smith Jr. which ever is available should be their pick at 5. At 10 I’m going for a PF in Markannen he’s the best available at that spot and he is a good combo down low with WCS. Markannen can spread the floor , not much of a defender but that’s what you have WCS for. Don’t even talk to me about Skal or Papagiannis. They were mistakes to select. Sac needs to trade those two for whatever they can find. Preferrably two veterans to help mentor WCS and Markannen. Yes, Sac needs a 3, but this draft is extremely week at the 3 after Jackson and Tatum. Next draft however looks pretty deep at the 3. Look at the 2018 draft on this site (forget that we all think its weak, we don’t know anything yet, those freshman haven’t started their first college season yet) There are at least 6 SF’s that could all go in the lottery. You can try and select a 3 with the 34th pick, but don’t expect him to save you there. Expect him to just hold you over till next draft. Who the Kings get there will probably end up just being a back up in the end. 

    You are not going to solve Sac’s problems with only this draft. Rome was not built in a day, they told themselves when they traded Cousins that their time to shine would have to wait so have patience, solve that SF problem next year.

     

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    • #1099236
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      Haha what Skal was so promisnig at the end of the season and was picked 28th. Hows that even close to being a mistake.

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  • #1099223
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     Skal is likely our most promising young player right now. And McLemore as a reliable 6th man is hilarious, he wasn’t even our 6th man last year! 

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  • #1099226
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    With smith at 5 and Isaac at 10, or Fox with 5 and Markanen in 10, or Maybe Jackson/Tatum 5 and Frank N at 10, it all depends whose available and who they think would fall to them at 10, Their biggest need is PG SF and PF, Although Skal can be a good PF based on this seasons performance

     

      

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  • #1099228
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    The Kings should package 10 and 34 with WCS to select Ball, Smith Fox or Ntilikina and then pick Jackson or Tatum at 5. Easier said then done and its unlikely they will be able to but rebuilding with one of those PG’s and Tatum to go with Hield, Skal, Papa G gives them a very bright future.

    As things are right now they need a PG. You cant survive in this league without great gaurd play. The only teams that have success without great PG’s are Utah and San Antonio the 2 best defences. Id pick any of those 4 PG’s ahead of Tatum because they are all top tier prospects that are hard to come by.

     

     

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  • #1099233
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     I think there’s a chance they might think about Donovan Mitchell out of Louisville as an option at 10 and can also either take Johnathan Issac or Jayson Tatum if he’s available 

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  • #1099249
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    If teams had been interested in DMC then they would have been in for him. Boston could have put a good package together and still kept Fultz and Pacers were rumoured to be in the mix too.

    DMC will be a 2018 FA and is after a super max deal so teams needed to consider that too.

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  • #1099302
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    Which is not a guarantee… since they could package one of their existing younger assets in an attempt to move up… I would go Dennis Smith Jr at #5 and Lauri Markenan at #10. Don’t overthink it too much… both those guys have skills that will translate well to the next level. 

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  • #1113943
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     i told them to pick mitchell smh lmao

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    • #1113994
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      You also thought Tatum might be there at 10, so don’t pat yourself on the back too hard.

      Good call on Mitchell though, I’m certain Sac wishes they’d taken him at 10 (or at a minimum, taken Anunoby with either pick 15 or 20).

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