What do you guys think of ben mclemore
i believe he will be a true star i think he is going to make the kings better i only think he will average 14-15 this year but i think there will be a month he comes into a zone averaging 24 a game and Vasquez will average 12 and 14 for a moth when mclemore comes into his zone him and cousins could turn the kings around he has a beautiful form and release that looks like once he gets going ain't no stopping him
He needs time to develop. He's so young right now. He has all of the physical tools to be an all-star, but will he have the work ethic to develop the skills he already has? He had times at Kansas where he absolutely disappeared during long stretches of games. Scouts question his maturity because I heard he was terrible during his interviews. I think a lot of that can be contributed to just being naive and immature. I think he can be very good in 2 or 3 years, but he has a lot of growing up to do.
Long term, I think he'll be one of the better players in this draft and an upper teens scorer for the majority of his career. I think he's going to be one of those 1-3 time All-Star type players. I think he'll start for the Kings full time, by the end of this season or the beginning of next. I really don't think Thornton is a part of their long term plan, and if you give Ben McLemore 30 mpg, I think he'll get you about 16 or 17 points and 4.5 rebounds...whenever, he gets those kind of minutes, I think he starts to produce.
As a rookie, I think he has a good shot to be a 12-15 ppg scorer in Sacramento. Unlike summer league, he's being used like he should be...coming off screens, and spacing the floor...and he's shooting good percentages and rebounding the ball well for his position. If you put the ball in Ben's hands and expect him to break someone down one-on-one then you'll be disappointed, but that's why teams run offenses and strategize. This isn't AND 1 Basketball Association, and McLemore is going to be fine as a rookie, being used correctly, and he's a known gym rat, so in time I suspect he'll improve his handle and playmaking.
you dont think he can crack the top12 in scoring? he has a top10 passer in vasquez and pass first point guard the shots will be there i truly think the only way he can go is up give him a double screen and watch him knock it down he has excellent foot work also im becoming a big fan its not jus his athleticism that intrigues me its he shot form and release that gets me ...Ray allen like ....if malone can put together a good offensive system the sky is the limit for him and cousins
The top 12? No. Damian Lillard was 12th this past year at 19 ppg. I don't think that is the kind of rookie year Ben will have, but I predicted him at 14.1 in my rookie prediction thread. I think his range is 12-15 ppg, with my prediction being on the higher end.
What JoeWolf1 said about his play is how I feel.
I just wanted to add that because of the Kings have such a guard heavy lineup, Malone has stated that no one should be surprised to see BMac get some minutes at the SF spot. It will be interesting to see how he will have to adjust on defense in that case and if added length of defenders at the 3 will bother his shooting more.
i was talking more of down the line not rookie season i was talking about maybe 2-3 yrs down the road
Then yes, I think his best season will be over 19.0 ppg
SG is the weekest position in the nba right now... and there are very few young promising SG. SO McLemore can quickly become one of the best (top 5).
Harden is maybe the best, Bryant Wade are still among the top players (but are both declining) Thompson Gordon are young and promising, Ellis Mayo Smith Crawford Martin Ginobili and Johnson are good players but wether limited or declining. Allen Bradley D. Green are specialized role players. Waiters Beal are unproven but promising prospects.
Lots of room for young talented SG like McLemore. But did he fall into the right situation ?... the Kings are a very unsteady team with head cases teammates and so few respected veteran to help young guns to keep being bball focused (Hayes, Salmons ...?).
Loved the kid so far. Just as wolf said he's being used correctly now. Such a pure stroke, I think he's going to be streaky at times, but a streaky Mclemore is better than a Thornton at this time. Not to mention Marcus Thorntons circus shots on fast breaks have gotten old. Need some dunks out there to inspire teammates, and mclemore can do that.
I think him slipping to number 7 was a huge mistake. With the need/non need of a position aside, I think Oladipo should have gone first, and Mclemore second. I have no clue how he slipped past 5.. He needs to get more aggressive and become a better defender. If he can he should be a very good player in the league. Time will tell.
Not to throw cold water on this love fest, but did this guy only average 15 per game in college? Also so far in the preseason after 5 games and 120 minutes played he has been to the line 6 times. 6. Basically, no one scores 20 points per game in the NBA without the ability to get to the line. No one. Now McLemore with that nice stroke and legit NBA three range is the one type of guy that could score decently without getting freebies at the line. But he won't approach 20 points unless he develops the ability to attack the basket and draw fouls. No one can score 20 per game just on jump shooting off screens. Even Reggie Miller in his prime was drawing 5 to 7 free throws a game.
Lots of room to grow and plenty of size and hops. But getting into the 18 to 20 points per game requires an attack mentality not just running off screens for catch and shoots.
Oh and Jimmer has shot 62% from three in the preseason. Do I think he will be star this season? No, he went to the line once in 67 minutes. He just hit a hot streak.
He averaged 15.8 ppg in college, which is more than Brad Beal and Dion Waiters did as collegiates and both players not only scored more, but got to the line more as pros. Now, granted both players are better ball handlers and attackers, but Ben will do more damage in the open floor than both of those players and is a better pure shooter than those two promising young 2 guards.
I don't think anyone thinks he's going to average 20 ppg at his current state, but he's done nothing to make me think he won't continue to improve. You look at him now compared to what he looked like in the summer and it's clear he's adjusting to better competition and the NBA game. 20 ppg will come in time, most players hit their peak at 26-28 years old...Ben is years away from that, but I think he's got a great foundation with his shooting and athletic ability.