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what are you expecting from gilbert arenas this season?

what are your expectations from him for next season? Will he fit well with wall? This guy has barely played for the last 3 seasons. Last year in 32 games he averaged 23ppg 7apg and 4reb although he wasnt very efficient. I do think the suspension might have some silver lining for him in that he wasnt fully healthy last year and now he should be at full strength from day 1 as well as heavily motivated due to everything that went down last year. I would be surprised if he made any negative headlines next season and wasnt on his best behavior. Back from 2004-2007, he averaged 26, 29 & 28 points respectively and was an all-nba caliber performer.

So what do you guys expect from him next year and can washington be a dark horse team?


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I expect him to deffer alot

I expect him to deffer alot and try to fit in...

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I expect like 17 or 18 ppg,

I expect like 17 or 18 ppg, and around 4-5 apg. He should have a good bounce-back season, albeit one that is kind of below his usual standards. I think that's for the better though, as he has been ball-dominant too much in the past and he won't have to pound the ball to create offense as much as usual playing with John Wall.

I'm interested to see how the Wall and Arenas backcourt will work defensively, although I think Wall's length and athleticism will allow him to defend SG's with OK effectiveness for a rookie PG.

I think the Wizards will be right there competing for the 7th or 8th spot in the playoffs. They have talent and they have a legit chance at the playoffs and could be a tough out for a team like Boston. They also could miss out with the lack of experience they'll have.

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As much as I want him to

As much as I want him to score 22pts if Flip doesnt run a 3 guard set I can see Gilberts minutes dropping dramatically from last year to split with Kirk

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one injury really turned his

one injury really turned his career around

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I know I'm in the minority

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm hoping/expecting that Arenas uses Wall's PG skills to flourish as a scorer and re-assert himself as the leader of the team, even if he isn't its future. If he had a chip on his shoulder before, it's even bigger now.

Wall has never seemed comfortable to me being a big-time scorer and that will suit Gilbert just fine. I'm predicting 25ppg from Gilbert if he stays healthy and out of trouble though his apg will drop right off with Wall being the designated playmaker.

If Wall and Arenas work out, Blatche and McGee continue to develop and they get some use out of Yi Jianlian then the Wizards will be better than a lot of people are predicting and should push for 8 or 9 in the East. The East is interesting again all of a sudden...

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Wall, Arenas, Hinrich, Young,

Wall, Arenas, Hinrich, Young, that could be a really great back court or a disaster. I think Arenas plays well early, kind proves he has his head on straight and gets traded. In Washington I think he'll be about a 21 ppg 5 apg player. I would expect his numbers to go up if he gets traded, I really don't see Washington's current backcourt working well together and with the gun incident I think Gilbert will be the one they ship out.

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I laugh at the people who

I laugh at the people who think Arenas should take a backseat and just disappear into the background. He's no longer the future of the Wizards, but he's still the best player on the team.

I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged 18-20 points, 5 assists and 4 rebounds. Wall is an unselfish player, which will benefit Arenas. His numbers will be down, but I'm expecting the most efficient season of Arenas' career. And now that he'll no longer be responsible for being the full-time point guard, he'll be less turnover proned as well.

I don't see a Wall/Arenas/Hinrich backcourt having too many problems defensively. All three players can defend both guards spots. All three guards are 6' 4", and Arenas is 215 lbs.

I also expect Arenas to take on a leadership role, which is something he's never been in his career. He's always been the best player, but he's never been the leader. This is a different, much younger, team than year's past. I expect him to stay true to his personality, but he'll be more mature, etc.

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Don't worry about Gilbert

Don't worry about Gilbert he's going to pick up right he left off..And thats being a great offensive threat..

I keep telling people that Wall has the talent to average 19 to 23 points in his rookie year..Becuz of his speed,his great ball handling skills allows him to get anywhere he want to on the floor and ability to draw fouls...In college he was unstoppable in isolation plays..Playing with a bigtime scorer like Arenas might be a good thing..Becuz it'll allow him to focus more on the other parts of his game...

Washington is loaded with guys that can score..Their defense is whats questionable..Thats why i believe a guy like Josh Howard should start over Thorton..If Howard can return to being the player he was in his 1st few years in Dallas...McGee opened alot of eyes in the summer league with his defensive play ..His play during the summer got him an invite to tryout for TEAM USA...Alot of people say he might be the most improved player in the league..Rookie Trevor Booker might be another Paul Millsaps but with all the frontcourt depth Booker probably wont see much time ...

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i see 21ppg, 5rpg, 5apg on

i see 21ppg, 5rpg, 5apg on relatively efficient numbers 45%fg, 36%3s. i also see a trade if those are the numbers put up.

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I think playing alongside

I think playing alongside Wall is going to benefit Gil. Outside of Josh Howard, Gil is still the only proven scorer on that team. You could say Blathche is ya want but he hasn't done it a whole year yet. So I think Gil will get plenty of opportunities to score, not to mention his contract will almost guarantee him court time because The Wiz wanna see him bounce back too.

I fully expect Gil to average around 20 points next year and be the recipient of a lot of drive and dishes. I don't see him averaging anymore then 5 assists tho.

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@RUDEBOY1000 IF Howard is

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IF Howard is healthy, I'd definitely start him over Thornton. With Arenas, Wall and Blatche already in the starting lineup... There is no room for Thornton's ball stopping ways. He needs to come off of the bench.

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Plus getting Hinrich was a

Plus getting Hinrich was a great move..Coaches love his defense..

He's going to compliment both Wall & Arenas so well..

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I think Arenas will look alot

I think Arenas will look alot better playing off the ball, and with Wall setting him up more combined with his shot creating ability i think he will also be more efficient, and he's big enough 2 guard 2's in the league so i think it wont take anything from the team defensively.If Josh Howard can get back close 2 his all-star form and Javale McGee improves the Wizards could surprise can make a run at the playoffs. Having Kirk Hinrich as a bench contributor is also a plus with his combo guard ability and versatility and also being able 2 defend is a plus. I 4got 2 mention the emergence of Andray Blatche, he looked like a stud last year. This could be a breakout season 4 Blatche.

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The Wizards are a sleeper to

The Wizards are a sleeper to make the playoffs because they got a very deep and talented roster. It's the play of McGee and Blatche which will be the deciding factor. And is Kevin Serephim in camp with them? Because if he is look for him to make an immediate impact backing up the center and PF position and if McGee can't live up to his great summer league play Serephim could challenge him for the starting center spot because he compliments Blactche a little better in the fact that Serephim plays on the low block and Blatche in the high post. Because McGee is most effective from the high post right now also.

But having two high post big men isn't a bad thing in your starting lineup that just means the log won't be clogged for Wall and Arenas. They got a very interesting team and Kirk Hinrich is a great defender who will be challenging both Wall and Arenas to become better in practice. I like this team. And any success they have this year will not surprise me. Al Thornton will be a great scorer off the bench but he should not start untill he learns how to atleast pronounce the word defense and Nick Young needs to keep his head in games. Josh Howard should be able to teach them a lot as long as they don't hang with him when practice is over.

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Wall 16 points and 7.4

Wall 16 points and 7.4 assists a game

Arenas 21 points 4.5 assists a game

Howard 14 points, 6.5 rebounds, 1.2 steals, 1 block

Blatche 15 points, 8.4 rebounds, 3.8 assists

McGee 11 points, 11 rebounds, 2.7 blocks

Yi, Thornton, Hinrich, N. Young, Seraphim provide great depth and scoring off the bench at every position. I see Blatche as a really good facilitator combined with Yi, and even Thornton playing some power forward in faster lineups its gonna be hard for him to really increase his scoring average but will still be a very good player and help the team win. Yi is the X factor he has the talent to start at 3 or even 5 so it's gonna be interesting to see how they use him. And I really don't see Wall scoring too much this year because of not only Gil, but the Wiz depth at scoring options and Wall being a very unselfish player still lacking a jump shot.

What do you guys think about them averages or even that starting 5? Think Yi has a chance to start. Think McGee is the real deal? At worse McGee will be an outstanding rebounder and shot blocker.

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Those pretty good numbers but

Those pretty good numbers but I see

Howard 11ppg 4rb 3ast

Blatche 17ppg 8rbs 4ast

Mcgee 8ppg 9rb 3blks

Dont sleep on Nick Young

14ppg 0rbs 0ast lol

Everything else was good thou

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wall

john wall should help is game so much ........or wizards will showcase is skills early on and make a trade just cause they dont want him to corrupt {Wall}....would love him mentor wall and they both compliment each other well

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22ppg 5apg 4rpg, lots of

22ppg 5apg 4rpg, lots of threes and tons of open looks attributed to wall's ability to penetrate and collapse defenses

also 0 guns per game in the locker room

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Im Hopeing that Arenas Gets

Im Hopeing that Arenas Gets traded to a good team, I don't mind taking back contracts that are equally bad, since washington is still in a good cap position thanks to all the young guys.

Arenas could be a good fit as a 6th man/crunch time guy on a good team.

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Gilbert Arenas is not a 6th

Gilbert Arenas is not a 6th man. He is still a superstar when healthy.

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@Mr. 19134 11 points and 11

@Mr. 19134

11 points and 11 rebounds for McGee? That's VERY optimistic. I could see him averaging 2-3 blocks, but not 11 points and 11 rebounds.

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McGee avg.. 11/11/2.7 ..

McGee avg.. 11/11/2.7 .. wow.

I wonder how fast are the Wiz gonna play, because they are gonna really have to score a lot to win.

They really have some high TO guys too, so I wonder how the ball movement will be.

ESPN has Gil putting up 22pts/4reb/4.5ast/1.3stl .. I can see that.

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@TEZO why is 11 points, and

@TEZO why is 11 points, and 11 rebounds very optimistic when you just said you could see him averaged 2-3 blocks. In the 16 minutes a game McGee got last year he averaged 6.4 points, 4 rebounds, and 1.7 blocks. If he were to get 32 minutes last year his averages might of double, and after Haywood got traded McGee came on strong. In fact McGee was so impressive during the summer that does anybody remember he got a National Team invite? I know a lot of that had to with him being from Vegas but it also had a lot to due with his dominant summer league performance.

And McGee is not the same player as he was last year he has gotten considerably stronger, and has a lot more confidence. I believe he will be their starting center this year especially after the chemistry him and Wall developed over the same, and look for McGee to get atleast 30 minutes a night. 28 at the very least. McGee is long and athletic, with a nice offensive game. Had it not been for all the other scorers Washington has I would say he would average more then 11. But he should def get 10 rebounds and 2.5 blocks if given 30 minutes. I'm going with 11 because Washington has a few players who like to jack 3's and McGee is a good offensive rebounder. Plus the Wiz will be pushing the pace of their games meaning quicker shots, meaning more possessions, meaning more rebounding opportunities.

@Wiz Kid I actually had Blatche down for 17 but changed them and gave Howard more points because Blatche is a great facilitator for a big man and I expect Flip to fully exploit that talent, and Howard averaged 14.5 points in the 22 minutes a game he got for the Wiz last year. With Howard in a contract year playing for a rejuvenated franchise and star pass first point guard expect him to have a rebound year.

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Javale McGee won't get 11

Javale McGee won't get 11 rebounds per game. He's not an elite rebounder by any stretch, especially on the defensive end. He might get like 7-8 though. I do think 11 ppg and 2-3 bpg is right up his alley though.

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Yo Iggy ...

What about the Wizards and Iguadola...maybe they have a decent run with Wall and Arenas and offer up Howard/Young and a 1st round pick the Sixers way for Iguadola and Meeks...???

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I certainly wouldn't have a

I certainly wouldn't have a problem with Iguodala playing with Wall and Arenas. None at all.

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would this deal work for both parties

Iggy and Meeks for Josh Howard(expiring deal) Nick young and 1st round pick(mid first 18 to 24) they'd make the playoff's with Iggy on board in place of Howard right...so the pick ain't a lottery pick by any means...Howard can be let go or re up for the MLE...Nick Young can get the role JR Smith has in Denver on the bench...The Sixers could use outside shooting to go with along with a backup for Turner years 1 and 2...Turner and Nick Young can be a good combo at the 2...Howard and Thad and Nocioni isn't bad for the Sixers though it may bring them closer to Perry jones in the Draft...Thad is a guy I'd hope would thrive once Iggy is moved...but Would Perry Jones be a better starter at Sf for this Sixers team...Holiday-Turner-(Thad or Perry Jones)-Speights-Hawes-Brand-Nocioni-N.Young-Williams-

And since your the forum's scout can Perry Jones live up to the hype...Is he a new KG maybe or is he a cross between KD and Granger or TMac on stilts...

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And what are you basing your

And what are you basing your he's not an elite rebounder by any stretch statement off of?

McGee is 7'1, with a 7'6 wingspan and a 9'7 standing reach. If he lift his arms arms they only come 5 inches short of the rim. McGee had a poor diet coming into the league combined with asthma trouble which led to conditioning issues. He has sinced fixed those problems and has added a considerable amount of weight during the offseason. McGee use to lose position on the block easy which shouldn't be a problem anymore now that he weighs close to 260. And he's still only 22.

In Washington's last ten games last year McGee only played 22.5 minutes yet he still managed to average 8 rebounds. With the confidence he's gained over the offseason, combined with his physical growth where he not only got stronger but actually gained an inch in height.

And the fact that him and Wall developed great chemistry during the off season and him being named the starting center to start the season. If McGee gets 30 minutes a game there is no doubt he will average a double-double.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/basketball/fba/story?id=5395747

So what factors do you think will occur where he won't develop into an elite rebounder. He has all the tools and washington will give him all the opportunity.

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I wouldn't give up Jodie

I wouldn't give up Jodie Meeks yet. And If I'm trading Iggy to Washington I want back Howards expiring deal, and McGee or Blatche. I'll even throw Mo Speights in the deal because he still hasn't shown he can keep his head in a whole game, or have any interest in playing defense. And I liked Nick Young coming out of college and his abilities but For some reason he has never been able to get more then 23 minutes a game despite being a great athlete and 3 point shooter. But I'll take him.

Iggy and Speights for Howard, Young, McGee or Blatche.

The Sixers really need a player like McGee because we need a shot blocker. But I think if Washington gets Iggy they dont want to give up the defensive potential of have Wall, Iggy, and McGee on the court. But they may bite on Blatche because Yi can come in and score for them at the PF and stretch the floor like Blatche does.

But this trade may never happen because from everything I hear Doug Collins has a man crush on Iggy

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"And what are you basing your

"And what are you basing your he's not an elite rebounder by any stretch statement off of? "

"In Washington's last ten games last year McGee only played 22.5 minutes yet he still managed to average 8 rebounds."

First off, I said McGee would probably get like 7 or 8 rpg, which isn't elite at all, especially for a guy who has the measurables you so kindly put up.

2nd, it's pretty poor logic to try and base McGee's stats off of what he did in a LATE-SEASON ten game stretch, especially one where he was given all kinds of liberties he won't see next year and played against less than ideal-level NBA competition due to the fact that the non-playoff teams were baptizing their younger players by fire down the ending stretch of the season and good teams were resting their starters.

You might be foolish enough to fall for guys who have padded stats in short stretches of the season, and you might be the type that actually believes in pace-adjusted stats like "in the 16 minutes a game McGee got last year he averaged 6.4 points, 4 rebounds, and 1.7 blocks. If he were to get 32 minutes last year his averages might of double," but I have an understanding of stats and know that it's no good to spew them out if you don't even really understand them or to into account what situation those stats were produced in.

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You should be a politician

You should be a politician because you dance around actually giving me research on why you think what you think, but then again nobody would ever vote you in because you may possibly be the most negative poster on this site.

You really are not adept at being able to understand player progression, changing team dynamics, and how that will benefit a player.

I showed you what McGee did in the last ten games of the season to show you that he is improving and has gotten better every month since he came into the league. I would post his month to month progression which backs my argument up but theres no point, you will probably say something a long the lines of it means nothing. NO! it means everything.

He took his excellent play into the off season and and continued to show his growth and gaining momentum as an improving player by being the best big man at the summer league. Then he turned that great play into a National Team invite after the Olympic committee noticed his great play.

Add that to his already filled out frame and stretch armstrong like length

With the fact he will be the Wizards starting center, and since he already has developed a great chemistry with their franchise player Wall, look for him to get atleast 30 minutes a game. And in them 30 minutes you're fooling yourself if you dont think he's gonna average a double-double and be a top 10 shot blocker.

You never take into account a players growth when making predictions, and you also never go out on a limp, your predictions are always so far on the safe side they're boring. Did you think that Noah would average 15 points and 13 rebounds in his first playoffs appearance last spring. I can almost guarantee you didn't think he would come close because you understanding how future events will play out is not your strong suit. You predict into the past.

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I would be an unsuccessful

I would be an unsuccessful politician because you said Javale McGee has proven to be an elite rebounder, and I told you why he's not and that he hasn't proven that at all, but I dance around research? Research shows that he has averaged 3.9 and 4.1 rpg, so if I'm dancing around research what are you doing? I guess those rebounding numbers are just the stuff legends are made of huh? Like I said, McGee is NOT an elite rebounder and he has never been. Not even at Nevada against mid-major level competition.

I agreed with the other stats you had him getting, and I clearly understand player progression, and I'm sure I understand it a lot better than you do actually. Don't confuse be keeping it real with being negative. It's just that alot of the stuff you say isn't smart and really is inconsistent with a truly well-thought out thinking pattern. I'm definitely not a negative person, but I will speak my mind if I think something should be pointed out.

Also, like I said, to base progression off of a ten game stretch in the garbage point of the season doesn't make much sense. Sorry. All kinds of players shine bright at the end of the season. McGee will improve, but it clearly is irrelevant to make that assumption at a point of the season where all players pad their stats.

Also, I guarantee McGee doesn't average a double double. He's not a 10 rpg guy.

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The following series of words

The following series of words never came out of my mouth: "Javelle McGee is an elite rebounder."

But I do think he will be a good rebounder along the lines of somebody like Samuel Dalembert who is not an elite rebounder but will get you 11 rebounds if he plays over 30 minutes.

And you're right he wasn't a great rebounder at Nevada but then again he never played over 27 minutes there either.

But in the NBA his rebounder per40 dont even equal ten and while he averaged 9.8 in the Summer League he once again never averaged 10.

So here I am predicting somebody who never averaged over 10 rebounds a game on any level to do it here in the NBA. Yes that is exactly what I am doing but his conditioning is the primary factor. I do beleive McGee will get 10 rebounds a game as long as he players over 30 minutes.

A more realistic average for him would probably be 8.

And I may of even put his scoring average too low because there is no doubt he has a better chance of averaging 11 points then 11 rebounds. He is a scoring big man. With that said I feel that he may be best suited playing power forward. But then again, his coach Flip Saunders has done an excellent job of getting the most out of his big men. Obviously Garnett and look what Flip did last year with Blatche and Haywood.

Brendan Haywood never averaged over 7 rebounds a game then 8 seasons later Flip comes along and he averaged 10 last year for Washington. McGee could fill that void left by Haywood especially with an offseason under his belt to train for it.

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"And what are you basing your

"And what are you basing your he's not an elite rebounder by any stretch statement off of? "

Those were your words. And I told you why he wasn't an elite rebounder. And why he might never be. How can you say he'll get 11 rpg, and then say you didn't say he's an elite rebounder? 11 rpg is elite level rebounding ability guy.

Samuel Dalembert is a very good rebounder (MUCH better than McGee is), he's not elite but he's extremely close. But why would a coach play Dalembert 30 mpg? He's not very good at anything besides rebounding and weakside shot-blocking. You have to be good enough to play 30 mpg before you can talk about what stats someone will put in 30 mpg. McGee won't even play 30 mpg I bet.

"Brendan Haywood never averaged over 7 rebounds a game then 8 seasons later Flip comes along and he averaged 10 last year for Washington"

Haywood never averaged more than 7 rebounds, but McGee has never averaged more than 4.1 rpg. There is a big difference.

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You're right, but you used

You're right, but you used the word elite rebounder first. And I wanted to ask why you don't think he can become an elite rebounder. Poor Word Choice on My Behalf. And lemme get this clear I do think McGee could eventually become an Elite rebounder, but I think its very unlikely because he never has been before but he got all the tools and the potential to do so.

I do think he has Sammy D like rebounding potential which is as you said borderline elite but not really an elite rebounder. McGee will have games where he gets 17 boards and then the next game get you 5. And Elite rebounder to me is somebody who will always get you atleast ten rebounds everynight even if they only play 28 minutes. Like Kevin Love.

And why do you say Sammy D aint good enough to play 30 minutes a night he is one of the best defensive bigs in the league. Not only that he hasn't missed a game since the 2005-06 season. The guy keeps himself in world class shape, is always hustling, and runs the floor about as well as any big man in the league. Not only that Sammy is one of the best shot blockers in the league. Even tho he only averages 2 a game, he alters countless more and rarely gets the opportunity to do any weak side shot blocking making Sammy one of the better on ball shot blockers around. Combine that with the fact he shoots 55% from the floor and a lot of them come on his improved mid range jumper. Do you kno how many times I've watches Sammy get the ball, then try to make a move, he can't, so he still got the ball like 17 feet from the net, and just hit a turnaround fade a way jumper and you go to yourself why can't he do that more often.

That leads me to why he still never tapped his potential. Despite being a very well spoken and educated individual Dalembert plays offense like he never saw a basketball before. He has a nice turnaround jumper which he can get off anytime he wants due to his length and quick hops, but other then that he has virtually no low post moves. And he becomes a liability on offense when he gets the ball early in the shot clock because he wants to score so bad but don't know how and will literally hold onto the ball or start jab stepping for like 5 seconds before launching up a 18 foot shot. And that goes to tell you he never establishes low post position. But he will dunk everything within ten feet of the rim. I think it was against the Raptors Sammy actually dunked from the foul line, you can YouTUbe it.

But you cannot say that Sammy isn't good enough to play over 30 minutes a game, he's a legit starting center in this league who never gets hurt and has amazing stamina. That my friend is a bad call.

A coach would play Sammy 30 minutes a night because he is a very good rebounder, a great shot blocker, and runs the floor extremely hard. And he can hit the mid range jumper. If Tyson Chandler can play that many minutes so can Sammy. What does Chandler bring that Sammy don't?

And Haywood started for 6 season never averaging over 7 rebounds. McGee is only 22. My point is that Flip Saunders is a great bigman coach who should get the most out of McGee this year now that he's the starting center just like he got the most out of Haywood last year.

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this site always double post when its raining in philly!!!!

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"And why do you say Sammy D

"And why do you say Sammy D aint good enough to play 30 minutes a night he is one of the best defensive bigs in the league"

Because he's not one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA. He can block shots off the ball and rebound, but he's foul-prone and he can be scored on if a big has good moves or a strong body. He's average as an overall defender, he's not smart or saavy enough to be one of the best, even though he has the ability to be.

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"A coach would play Sammy 30

"A coach would play Sammy 30 minutes a night because he is a very good rebounder, a great shot blocker, and runs the floor extremely hard. And he can hit the mid range jumper. If Tyson Chandler can play that many minutes so can Sammy. What does Chandler bring that Sammy don't?

Dalembert and Chandler both won't ever play 30 mpg again though. Neither one of them is good enough to do it and teams now realize it. They both will play 20-25 mpg though, and they both have to play on teams with a good amount of scorers to really be utilized in those roles even.

"And Haywood started for 6 season never averaging over 7 rebounds. McGee is only 22. My point is that Flip Saunders is a great bigman coach who should get the most out of McGee this year now that he's the starting center just like he got the most out of Haywood last year."

The most that he'll get out of McGee is 7 or 8 rebounds, so I think he will be getting the most from him on the glass

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A healthy Gilbert Arenas is

A healthy Gilbert Arenas is an asset to any team. Remember he is still 28, and you guys are almost acting as if hes out of his prime. If he applies himself, stays healthy, and stays out of trouble, I see a legit chance at 24 or 25 ppg with 5 or 6 apg. He can still shoot 40%+ from 3..... so dont write him out. hes gonna have a bounce back year.

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Mr. 19134's expectations of

Mr. 19134's expectations of McGee are going to fall short. McGee's improved, but he's STILL pretty raw. He'll score, but it'll be off of alley oops and put backs. He'll be the 5th option in that starting lineup and they'll rarely run a play for him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 11 points. I'm not even sure he'll play 30 minutes. Has he progressed enough to the point where he's ready to stay on the floor for 30 minutes per game???

McGee was very good in summer league, but how many times have we seen a player tear up summer league? Anthony Randolph did and we've been waiting for him to break out since. Success in the summer league doesn't necesarily mean a player is due for a breakout season.

McGee is going to be a better player this season, but saying he'll play big minutes (30 or more) and average a double double is too high of expectations in my opinion.

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Old bump, but it looks like

Old bump, but it looks like Iggy was spot on about McGee.

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word here in orlando is they

word here in orlando is they will not resign jason richardson...so that means arenas might start next season..

Arenas and Mayo are not 6th men..They'll not the type of players you can put in a game after they've sat the 1st 20 minutes...

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I think Arenas should start

I think Arenas should start next season for Orlando. He was out of shape this year and it looked like his confidence was shot. His jumper was terrible too.

But after I saw that 20-sumthing point game from him in the Atlanta series, I know he still has ability.

Dwight Howard said he's lost 15 pounds since the season ended. That's GREAT, especially since they've only been off for like a month. Gilbert is a gymrat and he'll be beack next season. This is a video of him boxing with Patrick Ewing Jr. He looks like he's in much better shape. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntUyqrnVcI&feature=player_embedded

But I agree with you RUDEBOY that Gilbert is a much better player starting then coming off the bench. And even if Richardson doesn't resign, I think Gilbert is much better at PG. He much better creating with the ball in his hands, and he's actually a pretty good playmaker, and I don't think he'll be able to play his game at SG next to a ball-dominant PG in Jameer Nelson. Maybe he can play some SG of he gets his jumper back though.

But I think in order for Gil to flourish next season, the Magic might have to trade Jameer Nelson. SVG won't let his mancrush for him go and would leave him in even when Gil was paying better.

I don't think Gil will ever post the All-Star numbers he used to, but I can see him averaging around 18 ppg & 7 apg if he's healthy and starting.

And BTW, he's back on Twitter. It's pure gold! But he's a funny dude and I like that he's going back to his more goofy and outgoing style.

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