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What’s the jury on Jabari Parker’s return?

Every year, Jabari Parker has increased his averages statistically as we all expected him to do coming into the league with the early praises of being the face of the Bucks’ franchise. Now, that he’s heading into his 4th season, what are we supposed to expect out of him after having two ACL injuries so early in his career? Can he bounce back again, and what type of impact will he make when he returns for the team’s playoff run?


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I thought the same thing -

I thought the same thing - Ive been around long enough to know about injuries but all reports are he looks great and healthy (they never report that he is "NOT" healthy though"

I've been following him recently and grabbed him in a fantasy league. Reports are he looks the goods with good lift and athletism.

If he can stay healthy he could be an all-star

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With him re-injuring the same

With him re-injuring the same knee, I just hope he’s a shell of his former self without losing too much explosion.

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Parker's contract extention

Parker's contract extention deadline is October 16th so we should hear more about his progress by then. Jason Kidd did say he looks good enough to play which is obviously an exageration but shows that he is at least off of his crutches and back starting to strengthen the knee and ligament. We shouldnt be expecting him on the court until next year sometime in January/February. I would say he misses anywhere from 40 to 60 games its really hard to tell at this point.

Its a tough injury so Milwaukee will defenitely be patient. This is the second time he tore the same ligament in his knee. He has been in rehab for about 7 months now. Parker is a dog though and really gets after it in the gym. The first time he tore this ligament he came out of the inury with a completely different body because he dedicated himself to the gym.

If your curious to know where he stands from a fantasy basketball perspective I'd say dont bite. Let some one else take the risk because even at his best last year in 51 games he hasnt proved to be a top 30 fantasy player in the league and that was with Middleton injured. With Khris back in the lineup and the Bucks continuing to move forward it will be hard for Jabari to come back mid season and progress on his form from last season despite his immense talent and work ethic. Your better off having Lavine or Thomas sitting on your injury reserve imo.

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I am, more so focused on how

I am, more so focused on how he will benefit the team around playoff time because they are really going to need his presence.

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I dont think it really

I dont think it really matters much for the teams success. Not because Parker wont help this team but Kidd wont let his absence hurt them. They are so deep with talent and he gets the most out of his guys. He will find someone to step up either Snell, Wilson, Maker, Vaughn. You can defenitely expect someone on this team to take a big leap forward. As far as his role with team upon returning it will be easier to judge after his extension deadline October 16th.

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I remember him hitting his

I remember him hitting his head on a dunk after the first surgery. I think he will be brought along slowly - Feb is the target date. 82 games in a season so no rush.

I think if he and most of the bucks can stay healthy I believe they can make second round of playoffs... I know must of us here would love to see them go deep in the playoffs

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With the pieces they have, I

With the pieces they have, I can see them being a #3 seed this season.

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Parker has bulked up a lot

Parker has bulked up a lot since his high school and Duke days. While the extra time in the gym has benefitted his game in some ways, I also don't know if playing at that weight is sustainable long-term for a player with his history of knee problems, particularly someone who plays with as much activity and bounce as Parker. Parker has a naturally thick frame, but I think maybe trying to lose some weight might take some of the pressure of his joints. I think it might be necessary for him to consider a different approach to training if he wants to last long-term in the league.

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What I like the most about

What I like the most about Parker is that he’s very dedicated to bouncing back from being setback with injuries; he has that willpower to not become a bust due to injury, which showed after his first ACL tear. I like his listed size at 6’8” 250, but as you’ve mentioned, he may need to trim down to keep pressure off those joints.

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It's Greek Freak's team. So,

It's Greek Freak's team. So, Jabari is either the number two guy at best, a trade chip at worst, and the 3rd or fourth guy in your main core as a baseline...

If I were running the Bucks, you give Giannis the keys, then your BIG THREE becomes Giannis, Brogdon (bigger point guard with intangibles), and Thon Maker (possible 7 foot unicorn of the future). So, my fourth guy is either Middleton or Jabari.

I would CONSIDER trading Jabari depending on what I needed...

The Lakers' roster looks a bit in flux -- but I even doubt the Bucks could get Kyle Kuzma for him...

What about to Memphis for JaMychal Green (standard issue power forward), Wade Baldwin IV (semi-explosive young combo guard who might not even make the team), and Jarrel Martin (big four with some solid ball handling skills). Ok, well we can't trade Green because we just signed him.

For FIT, I would trade Jabari Parker to Philly, and get my throwback center of the future in Jahlil Okafor. Not a rim protector, but with a front line that includes Greek Freak, and Thon, not to mention a lengthy backcourt in Malcolm and the Middleton I should be ok on defense.

Freak, Thon, and Oak? I like that front line.

And, I don't even care if Jabari tears it up in Philly...

So for Philly, you go with the ultra big lineup: Ben Simmons at point guard, Markelle Fultz at the 2, with Saric and Jabari at the forward spots and Embiid in the middle. Jabari gives them some better shooting at the 4. A hefty guy who could end up being their second best guy on the low blocks, and another guy who can help out on the boards.

I think it would be a good trade for both teams...

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I’m not knocking your idea,

I’m not knocking your idea, but do you think Parker for Okafor is an equal value trade?

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Milwaukee is building an

Milwaukee is building an identity as a long, versatile team that can switch on defence without creating unfavourable mismatches. How exactly does Okafor fit in with that ethos? He is an awful defender that couldn't guard his grandmother. They already have that in Monroe, who even though he's a bad defender, shows more interest in defence than Oak.

I agree that Jabari is a valuable trade chip, and most likely out of any to be traded, but he's more valuable than Okafor, even with dual ACL injuries.

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I am not sure what equal

I am not sure what equal value for Jabari is. Not sure what fair value for Okafor is either... two of the big young question marks...

I could see either guy's stock falling.

Ok, would the Lakers trade Kuzma and Larry Nance, Jr. for Jabari Parker? I don't really think so...

Jabari seems like a guy who can hit some mid-range shots, some 3's, and post up some. He can be a pretty good rebounder for you...

BUT, not sure he is really a pure power forward, a pure small forward, or a 3 and D guy.

I wanna see he is a good fit on the Grizzlies as Marc's teammate inside, as well as a legit 3rd option behind CONLEYGASOL. Can't trade JaMychal Green because we just signed him. Other than that, we don't have many assets. What about Brandan Wright, Mario Chalmers, Jarrel Martin, and a protected future first round pick?

Mario might be cut anyway, but he is a really crafty, savvy veteran who can run an offense and hit the 3. Wright (when healthy) can shoot from point-blank range, throw down alley-oops, rebound a bit, and help protect the rim. Jarrel Martin is still raw, but actually looks like a bigger, stronger, more athletic Jabari Parker.

Other than that, what about to Utah as their power forward next to Rudy Gobert?

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I've been saying Utah is the

I've been saying Utah is the team to watch if he gets put on the trade block. I think Derrick Favors for Jabari with filler salaries added in is fair and can help both sides.

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Will Parker be back before

Will Parker be back before the trade deadline this season?

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He should be.

He should be.

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After really finding his

After really finding his stride last season coming off a strong end to the 2015-16 season, it was a great shame to see Jabari undergo another ACL injury.

There is an interesting video update on SI, he is doing lots of fitness work, lay ups, dunks, drills, I don't think he has done physical contact drills yet but he looks as if he isn't that far off being back IMO.

Having been seen as the possible Bucks saviour when he was drafted, he may have been overtaken by the Freak but with the prerssure off him a bit he can resume his career and try to stay sound.

I would think the Bucks would look to make him a reasonable offer to see what his party thinks before extension deadline this month.

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Jabari failed to reach an

Jabari failed to reach an agreement for an extension. What are your thoughts?

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Smart move by Milwaukee. Most

Smart move by Milwaukee. Most teams would rush and immediately hand out the max to secure the player but I like that they are taking a stand and setting a precedence. They have tons of talent and have proven they will continue to move forward with or without all their key members led by Giannis. Quite frankly I hate to say it because I truly believed Parker had superstar talent but his injury issues seem to be recurring and its doubtful they stop occuring. To build around a player who is gonna miss 20-60 games a year and promote the teams growth through that players progression would not be wise for the Bucks when they have a bunch of players they can realistically develop to fill that role. Parker is still a remarkable player and when he returns he could work into the Bucks favor and earn a contract they see being fair but as things are I doubt they give him the max or agree to match another teams offer but Im sure another team thats not as wealthy in talent as Milwaukee would take that risk.

I personally think hes gonna find his way on the Bulls.

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I am getting sick of these

I am getting sick of these greedy kids wanting a max contract.

He wanted a five-year contract potentially worth between $146 million and $175 million. Coming off two surgeries, I would be taking what I could get if I was Parker. If he gets injured again, he will be worth nothing.

Milwaukee have been smart the past 4 or 5 years, not offering and getting stuck with monster franchise crippling contracts

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After seeing what the Sixers

After seeing what the Sixers did for Joel Embiid, I figured the Bucks would have worked something out similar with Parker including an injury clause.

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We don't know what the Bucks

We don't know what the Bucks offered him, they may have lowballed him to see if he'd bite with room to go higher. They are in no need to rush and renew him, they can match any offers next summer which won't be as high as the max they could offer.

The Bucks didn't use their 5 year max on Giannis so maybe Jabari's people tried to get this for him.

I still think Bucks are in a very strong position as they can match, I just don't see Jabari being the sort of guy to sign a one year qualifying deal with his injury record although Noel did but I feel he is a high class guy and would like to remain at the Bucks.

If there was a potential trade what would the Bucks get for say Jabari and Monroe's expiring deal?

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