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A Way For Philly to "DUMP" Brand and Igoudala's Contracts

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A Way For Philly to "DUMP" Brand and Igoudala's Contracts

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Philadelphia 76ers-- Create New Marketing Plan and Save 111 Million Dollars
-- The 76ers clear up 111 Million Dollars of gaurenteed money (Igoudala's last year is a player option), on players who prove to be minor marketing investments in the State of Pennsylvania and worldwide within their current situation Philly. They hand the team over to the youth which should give oppurtunities to increased roles, breakout seasons, and great marketing and advertising success for guys like Jrue Holliday, Evan Turner, Maurice Speights, Spencer Hawes and Thaddeus Young. They also get some good fits into their system. A young athletic wing with potential, Sonny Weems. A player who has been stuck in the half court set Boris Diaw, who should thrive in the fast break. And a True C Nazr Mohammed.
Trade Problems
-- I dont see any problem with this. They give up ALOT, but they make 12 Million Dollars this year as soon as the trade goes through, and save 111 Million.

2010/2011 Roster
PG-Jrue Holiday, Lou Williams, Willie Green
SG-Evan Turner, Sonny Weems, Jodie Meeks
SF-Boris Diaw, Anders Nocioni, Jason Kapono
PF-Marreese Speights, Thaddeus Young, Jason Smith
C-Spencer Hawes, Nazr Mohammed, Tony Battie

Charlotte Bobcats- Make a 3 Year Committment to Winning
-- Micheal Jordan and Larry Brown are stuck in situration where they have already made such a push towards winning, to lay back just isnt like Brown and Jordan. Charlotte is exploring ways to get better and Elton Brand and Jose Calderon could be the awnser. Brand posted career lows, especially in rebounds dropping from about 9 to about 6 per game. Calderon also posted lower averages especially percentage wise and his assists dropped from about 9 to 6 per game. Brand was asked to play a style of basketball he does not fit into, the fast break, and Calderon was asked to be more of a "risk taker" and not be scared to create more shots for himself or make riskier passes. In Charlotte Calderon will be asked to be as much of a fundementaly sound PG and team leader as possible, Brand will be able to get touches in the Post in a half court xsystem, and wont have to run up and down the court as much.
Trade Problems
--Last year Charlotte was able to hold Dwight Howard to 10pts, 9rebs, and 5.5pf's, per game although he did register 5bpg . The problem is if this trade went through they would have gotten rid of Chandler, Mohammed and Diop the 3 C's responsible for "shutting down" Howard. Even though they stopped Howard they still lost all 4 games thou.
2010/2011 Roster
PG-Jose Calderon, D.J. Augustin, Shaun Livington, Sherron Collins
SG-Stephen Jackson, Gerald Henderson
SF-Gerald Wallace, Matt Caroll, Derrick Brown
PF-Elton Brand, Tyrus Thomas, Dominique Mcguire,
C-Eric Dampier, Joey Dorsey

Toronto Raptors- Create A New Tean Identity To Replace Bosh
There are many teams Toronto is probally veiwing many proposed trades by GMs targetting their 14Million Dollar TE. BC is not going to be giving up the TE for just any player with a matching price tag; Adding Igoudala makes a statement to the organization and fans that they are not rebuilding buit replacing, although they would probally still have a Top 10 Pick. Iggy is an exciting player, who at times shows he can be a 1st Option scoring, and displays a good all-around game with top class athletisism.
Trade Problems
--Giving up Sonny Weems, a great friend of Amir Johnson and DeMar Derozan could have bad effects on the teams chemistry and morale. The 3 workout together and support on eachother to help the other improve. With Igoudala also eating up touches on the wing he should stunt the development and growth of DeMar Derozan.
PG-Jarrett Jack, Marcus Banks
SG-DeMar Derozan, Leandro Barbosa
SF- Andre Igoudala, Lienis Klieza, Julian Wright
PF- Amir Johnson, Ed Davis, David Anderson
C- Andrea Bargnani, Desagna Diop, Soloman Alabi


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Iguodala aint goin nowhere!

Iguodala aint goin nowhere!

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interesting. Was gonna bash

interesting. Was gonna bash it at first, but then after thinking about it, it kinda makes sense.

First of, im not sure philly wants to get rid of iggy that bad that they would just dump him for salary space. But when you factor in that they also get to dump brands contract and start fresh with holiday and turner, it might not be so bad for them.

toronto seems to win here. They get iggy and can compete. ALso, its not like losing calderon and weems is exactly a bad thing for them.

Charlotte is the team taking on all the salary here with aquiring both brand and calderons contracts. However, despite being overpaid, both those guys are solid pieces that can really fit in well there. CHarlotte needs exactly what those guys bring and a starting 5 of claderon, stephen jackson, gerald wallace and elton brand with just about anyone starting at center is pretty much a lock to make the playoffs in the east.

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I think there going to give

I think there going to give Brand a season under the new coach before they think about it. And they want to see if Iggy can bounce back from a down season.

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You obviously favored your

You obviously favored your Raptors. They get an All-star caliber player in Iguodala and only lost Calderon, who is on the block and Sonny Weems? Not gonna happen. Yes, the sixers save money, but how many 2011 NBA free-agents are better than Iggy and Melo won't come to Phili.

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this deal sucks for

this deal sucks for charlotte. they would pretty much be volunteering to take 2 of the worst contracts in the league. nobody is gonna touch brands contract. philly is stuck with it.

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I'm sorry. This looks like a

I'm sorry. This looks like a terrible deal for all teams but Toronto.

Charlotte is gonna say " Hey, let's just 2 terrible contracts in Brand and Calderon" and Dorsey. They would be LOCKED down for the next 6 season with contracts. I think they would say a QUICK no.

Philadelphia could get more for Iggy. Plain and Simple. The fact he's a Olympian makes it even better for Philly.

Plus Philly is gonna really say " Let move Iggy in the division?" I don't think so.

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philly gets like shi+ in

philly gets like shi+ in return, not a good trade

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for all you saying its so

for all you saying its so bad, i see people all in agreement that brnad is a terrible contract and nobody wants him. Then i see a bunch of people saying philly gets nothing in return for iggy and they could get more for him. So which is it becasue those are two contradicting statments?

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I'd be sad to see Weems go.

I'd be sad to see Weems go.

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churchboy dont be sad

churchboy dont be sad

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I will probably get a lot of

I will probably get a lot of thumbs down for this but I agree with llperez. I think the trade makes sense for all three teams, obviously the Raptors would be happy with the trade, and I think that it would help the Bobcats put together a playoff season and at least generate a little bit more interest around their team. It also helps the 76'ers get rid of Brand to a team that could actually use him and would give the 76'ers young talent a chance to shine. There is never going to be a trade that involves big name players that everyone agrees would help all teams involved, but I think in the long run this gets pretty close.

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for all you saying its so

for all you saying its so bad, i see people all in agreement that brnad is a terrible contract and nobody wants him. Then i see a bunch of people saying philly gets nothing in return for iggy and they could get more for him.

I'm confused. Let's agree- Elton Brand is a terrible contract. I would shocked if any team wanted him for that price.

Iggy is a good contract and is worth more.

I don't see where that's connects.

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@doc hoops. This trade allows

@doc hoops. This trade allows them to get out of the horrible brnad contract that everyone says is terrible and no one wants. SO by getting out of that contract, they are getting somehint for letting iggy go. Only way they get rid of brand, in this scenario, is to also get rid of iggy. So people are contradicting themselves when they say how bad brands contract is but by making this trade they are getting nothing out of it.

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I see what llPerez is saying

I see what llPerez is saying and it makes sense. Brand's contract and style of play is crippling the 6ers and Evan Turner can do a lot of what Iggy does and there is also Thad Young who is talented and Speights who can fit in better than Brand and also play the 4 and 5. Also Diaw is the perfect glue guy but not a good fit for Bobcats.

Philly wins by getting out of Brand's contract and still having enough talent to be a good team that should play better together.

Toronto gets a guy that is young but still a vet and is a few notches away from being a star

Charlotte gets some very talented guys who are perfect for Larry Brown's system except Caulderon's defense sucks but so did Felton's

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yeah, im not saying all

yeah, im not saying all parties should defenitely pull the trigger. Just pointing out that it does make sense for all teams which is more then i can say for the majority of trade threads on here. Lets look:

Toronto-gets rid of calderons unneeded contract and adds a very good borderline all-star in andre iguodala. I think we can all agree they benefit.

Philly-Dumps Brands long overpriced contract. They also get iggys cap space as a bonus as well. As for the roster, they are young, and brands departure opens up minutes for speights and thad young at pf. Also, its hard to believe both turner and holiday can reach their max potential with iggy there. SO they clear tons of cap space and minutes for the young guys and this trade also probably knocks about 15 wins off their record next season thus imrpoving their draft position.

Charlotte-They are taking the biggest risk here becasue they have to take on both brands and calderons contracts. But talnet wise, both those guys are still very solid veterans and fit direct needs the team has. A starting lineup of calderon, jackson, wallace and brand i think gaurantees they are in the playoffs in the east. The bobcats are gonna have problems getting free agnets to come to town anyways unless they overpay and looking at their cuurent roster, there is not much hope for building for the future. They might as well try and build a veteran playoff team to help get some fan interest in the city and turn things around quickly. ALso, dumping diops contract is a decent little bonus as well.

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espn trade machine

I can't get the trade to load but if it's a deal getting rid of brand and we keep ET and Holliday then I am in.

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Evan Turner can do a lot of

@ Sheltwon you said and people seem to believe:
Evan Turner can do a lot of what Iggy does...

he hasnt even played against NBA athletes yet, and with average athleticism and a below average armspan we'll see, but I doubt it

and there is also Thad Young who is talented and Speights who can fit in better than Brand and also play the 4 and 5.

Speights cannot play the 5, Eddie Jordan did that last year, Dwight demolished them

--Thad Young is very talented and I still hold out hope they kept Iggy & Thad together for the future
also Lou WIll is a great backup on a playoff team

but with the Turner and Holiday ppl are waiting on the "p" word, but lets not jump the shark here!

Turner and Holiday were not compatible in summer league but we will see, a preseason trade of your best player who just recently made TEAM USA's roster...

its all just fan speculation to me

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Everytime I post something

Everytime I post something everyone seems to believe I favor the Raps. Toronto gives up a 14 Million Dollar TE, Jose Calderon and a budding young star Sonny Weems and that isnt enough for Andre Igoudala and Diop's large contract? What else do they have to do give the whole 76ers organization hand jobs?

Charlotte already has no way out of Wallace, and Johnson's 3 year contracts unless they just trade away everything they built after their first playoff appearance. Calderon and Brand also have 3 year contracts, To make a formal commitment to a 3 year winning plan would not be a bad idea and the only way they can do it is taking on bad contracts since their are not many big name Free Agents, and those that are available most likely wont want to join Charlotte. Brand and Calderon would thrive in the half-court pick and role with Wallace cutting and Jackson spotting up.

$111 Million dollars is alot of money in 4 years, but thats not all Philly saves. They also gain money from the budding young stars Holiday, Turner, Speights getting new media publicity. Fresh faces, highlights and expectations. Along with new Draft Picks and the building of the team. If Philly is serious about winning anytime at all they would seriously consider this deal and try to build a TEAM like OKC did.

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It you would have said a no

It you would have said a no named Center killed him than I could see the credibility. Also against more than 75 percent of the teams in the NBA Speights could be a starting Center. I am not saying an all Star one but a Solid one.

Evan Turners has similiar skills to Iggy and i never said he was as athletic. His offfensive skill are similiar and Turner has great ball handling and passing skill that Iggy has. They both also are not that great at the 3 point line.

Everything I said was a fact not speculation.

speculation would be that Evan Turner will give the sixers everything that Iggy gave them.

Speight did seem to fit in better with the 6ers team than Brand.

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