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  • #62019
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    ChicagoCasey
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     I really thought the Washington Wizards was going to break out even more this year and so far I am 100% wrong. I honestly believe this is an ideal time to blow up the team and try to get more sure fire talent from the top of the draft. I’m not saying trade John Wall, but look at the trade market for Bradley Beal, Otto Porter, and Marcin Gortat. And try to start over w/ a new head coach and a new general manager. 

    I know the Washington Wizards just installed a new offense, they are not currently healthy, had injury problems, and are in the eastern conference. But, I believe the aspiration of all the NBA teams is to either win the championship ot win the lottery. The Washington Wizards are in between, these Washinton Wizards are the Joe Johnson/Josh  Smith Atlanta Hawks. They need to try something new and try to reconstruct this team.

    You might caught that I brought up trading Bradley Beal and Otto Porter. You read that right, I believe if they can trade for a young star on the trading block, they should try to get him. The young star I’m talking about is DeMarcus Cousins or if the 76ers want to be really stupid then they can try to get Jahlil Okafor. They need to start something new because this team is not going anywhere, they are failing at the race for Kevin Durant, they have a lot of cap space, and they got a young piece that can get you a great piece in return. 

     

     

     

     

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  • #1027668
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    OhCanada-
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     We aren’t even a quarter into the season. Relax. Still a lot of time to fix things and become a legitimate team. 

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    • #1027670
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      ChicagoCasey
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       I know,  I believed that I said that. I also know that their are a great chance that they make the playoffs because I don’t believe Celtics, Hornets, Knicks, Magic, and Pistons will be all be better by the end of the season. And I also know that the Wizards had really bad starts in the beinging of seasons in prior seasons. I’m just saying that it’s a consistent trend and if they really want to contend, maybe they need to make a move or try to reconstruct their roster. 

      When John Wall plays better the I believe the team will follow suit.

       

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    • #1027803
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      ChicagoCasey
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       I know,  I believed that I said that. I also know that their are a great chance that they make the playoffs because I don’t believe Celtics, Hornets, Knicks, Magic, and Pistons will be all be better by the end of the season. And I also know that the Wizards had really bad starts in the beinging of seasons in prior seasons. I’m just saying that it’s a consistent trend and if they really want to contend, maybe they need to make a move or try to reconstruct their roster. 

      When John Wall plays better the I believe the team will follow suit.

       

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  • #1027801
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    OhCanada-
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     We aren’t even a quarter into the season. Relax. Still a lot of time to fix things and become a legitimate team. 

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  • #1027683
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    Greekballin

     lol at you bro, you were dickriding Wall so hard before the season, now you’re not a believer after less than 20 games.. SMHH.. 

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    • #1027871
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      ChicagoCasey
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       I’m dickriding Wall because I state that the Wizards might need to reconstruct their team if they continue to struggle. John Wall struggling to start this season and I admit that, but he had the same start to the season a few seasons ago when he mentioned all he did in the summer was shoot three pointers. 

      You might be the corniest person on here. I give my opinion about a player and you call that dickriding. And I findd it funny and strang that you actually know everything that I said before the season. 

       

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    • #1027736
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       I’m dickriding Wall because I state that the Wizards might need to reconstruct their team if they continue to struggle. John Wall struggling to start this season and I admit that, but he had the same start to the season a few seasons ago when he mentioned all he did in the summer was shoot three pointers. 

      You might be the corniest person on here. I give my opinion about a player and you call that dickriding. And I findd it funny and strang that you actually know everything that I said before the season. 

       

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  • #1027817
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    Greekballin

     lol at you bro, you were dickriding Wall so hard before the season, now you’re not a believer after less than 20 games.. SMHH.. 

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  • #1027911
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    TarHeelRaven
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     I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, Nene needs to go.  I can’t believe he is being paid 13 mil to average 8 and 5.  He’s injury prone and way past his prime.  He was abysmal against the Hawks in the playoffs last year.  Gortat is an average NBA player at best.  The Wiz need a true low past threat to take pressure off Wall and Beal in my opinion. 

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  • #1027776
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     I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, Nene needs to go.  I can’t believe he is being paid 13 mil to average 8 and 5.  He’s injury prone and way past his prime.  He was abysmal against the Hawks in the playoffs last year.  Gortat is an average NBA player at best.  The Wiz need a true low past threat to take pressure off Wall and Beal in my opinion. 

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    • #1027922
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      That’s true and all but who can they get? If they package Nene with Oubre, maybe they find someone. The issue is that they probably don’t want to give up their long-term cap-space with them aiming at signing Durant. Maybe they can get Lee from the Celtics or Jefferson from the Hornets (unlikely), but other than that there are no low post scorers on 1-year deals suitable for the Wizards. 

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    • #1028057
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      That’s true and all but who can they get? If they package Nene with Oubre, maybe they find someone. The issue is that they probably don’t want to give up their long-term cap-space with them aiming at signing Durant. Maybe they can get Lee from the Celtics or Jefferson from the Hornets (unlikely), but other than that there are no low post scorers on 1-year deals suitable for the Wizards. 

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  • #1027957
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    Turns out the games aren’t played on paper, and leadership matters. Pierce dragged these bums into respectability, and on-court performance had nothing to do with it.

     

     

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  • #1027822
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    Turns out the games aren’t played on paper, and leadership matters. Pierce dragged these bums into respectability, and on-court performance had nothing to do with it.

     

     

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    • #1027870
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      G_Wilikers
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       I agree with you, leadership does matter & you’re right the games are not played on paper. I do believe Pierce was a vital factor in the latest playoff run. However, I don’t appreciate your tone.

      Just the fact that you called the Wizards "bums" proves you have not been watching basketball the last 3 seasons. This is a team that has won a playoff series each of the last 2yrs. That means they made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. & in those 2yrs they have won 2 games of those series, meaning they were halfway to the point of winning the 2nd round series. Meaning they could have very well reached the Eastern Conference Finals. That sir is beyond ‘respectability’. 

      Honestly Pierce’s best performances came in the playoffs because his regular season play was nothing spectacular, granted he was older. He knew the Wizards brought him to the team because he would hit clutch shots when they meant the most. Are you going to blame them for that? Isn’t that part of the reason the Clippers brought him in this summer? The man has done nothing in his carreer except be an impact clutch player. To me, he has that label until proven otherwise. I think you should research more before stating such foolish opinions next time. 

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      • #1027880
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        "Meaning they could have very well reached the Eastern Conference Finals. That sir is beyond ‘respectability’"

         coulda shoulda woulda.

        Gortat said yesterday that the locker room is extremely negative right now, and it’s killing the season.

        Teams need to be resiliant in tough times, and stick together.

        Wall and Beal don’t have the toughness and leadership to pull through the hard times, to keep the team together and keep the team positive. 

        whiney bums.

        i said that Pierce’s oncourt performance had nothing to do with the powerful impact he made on that team. Go ahead and talk about clutch play all you want, I specifically said oncourt performance had nothing to do with Pierce’s impact. He wouldn’t be letting these guys cry like babies when times got tough this year.

         

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        • #1027898
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          G_Wilikers
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          I clearly stated why this is a respectable team. They DESERVE respect bottomline. Yes you are correct in your assessment that teams should be resilient in tough times. But WHO ARE YOU to state that Wall & Beal do not have what it takes to pull through tough times when they were the essential reason that the Washington Wizards are a relevant franchise in the league right now. When they have been to the second round of the playoffs the last two years.

           

          Tell me when have they ever been negative teammates or done anything to suggest they cannot get the job done? I mean the guys have only been in the league a few years now & have had success in it already. 

           

          Then here you go with the "whiney bums" sentiment again… What is that? Is that some type of childish underlying hatred you have for them or something? Because I’ve never heard of anybody on that squad whining. Sounds unjustified to me man. 

           

          Also "on court performance had nothing to do with Pierce’s impact". My man. Paul Pierce hit some of the biggest shots of the year in the playoffs for the Wizards. I watched a whole lot of the playoffs last year, saw it with my own eyes. I understand he was a calming, mature, veteran voice in the locker room, but there are many guys like that around the league every year who don’t make an impact ON THE COURT. Especially not when it matters most in crunch time. Usually they’re just older guys who have very little left in the tank but can still make the squad.

           

           

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          • #1027900
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            G_Wilikers
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             So either you’re just talking out your ass or you just don’t know NBA basketball bruh.

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          • #1028035
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            G_Wilikers
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             So either you’re just talking out your ass or you just don’t know NBA basketball bruh.

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        • #1028033
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          G_Wilikers
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          I clearly stated why this is a respectable team. They DESERVE respect bottomline. Yes you are correct in your assessment that teams should be resilient in tough times. But WHO ARE YOU to state that Wall & Beal do not have what it takes to pull through tough times when they were the essential reason that the Washington Wizards are a relevant franchise in the league right now. When they have been to the second round of the playoffs the last two years.

           

          Tell me when have they ever been negative teammates or done anything to suggest they cannot get the job done? I mean the guys have only been in the league a few years now & have had success in it already. 

           

          Then here you go with the "whiney bums" sentiment again… What is that? Is that some type of childish underlying hatred you have for them or something? Because I’ve never heard of anybody on that squad whining. Sounds unjustified to me man. 

           

          Also "on court performance had nothing to do with Pierce’s impact". My man. Paul Pierce hit some of the biggest shots of the year in the playoffs for the Wizards. I watched a whole lot of the playoffs last year, saw it with my own eyes. I understand he was a calming, mature, veteran voice in the locker room, but there are many guys like that around the league every year who don’t make an impact ON THE COURT. Especially not when it matters most in crunch time. Usually they’re just older guys who have very little left in the tank but can still make the squad.

           

           

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      • #1028015
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        "Meaning they could have very well reached the Eastern Conference Finals. That sir is beyond ‘respectability’"

         coulda shoulda woulda.

        Gortat said yesterday that the locker room is extremely negative right now, and it’s killing the season.

        Teams need to be resiliant in tough times, and stick together.

        Wall and Beal don’t have the toughness and leadership to pull through the hard times, to keep the team together and keep the team positive. 

        whiney bums.

        i said that Pierce’s oncourt performance had nothing to do with the powerful impact he made on that team. Go ahead and talk about clutch play all you want, I specifically said oncourt performance had nothing to do with Pierce’s impact. He wouldn’t be letting these guys cry like babies when times got tough this year.

         

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    • #1028005
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      G_Wilikers
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       I agree with you, leadership does matter & you’re right the games are not played on paper. I do believe Pierce was a vital factor in the latest playoff run. However, I don’t appreciate your tone.

      Just the fact that you called the Wizards "bums" proves you have not been watching basketball the last 3 seasons. This is a team that has won a playoff series each of the last 2yrs. That means they made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. & in those 2yrs they have won 2 games of those series, meaning they were halfway to the point of winning the 2nd round series. Meaning they could have very well reached the Eastern Conference Finals. That sir is beyond ‘respectability’. 

      Honestly Pierce’s best performances came in the playoffs because his regular season play was nothing spectacular, granted he was older. He knew the Wizards brought him to the team because he would hit clutch shots when they meant the most. Are you going to blame them for that? Isn’t that part of the reason the Clippers brought him in this summer? The man has done nothing in his carreer except be an impact clutch player. To me, he has that label until proven otherwise. I think you should research more before stating such foolish opinions next time. 

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  • #1027902
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    OhCanada-
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     Gortat was huge for them last year he isn’t just an average player. I watched the whole Raptors series. Basically Wall and Heal laid down the foundation for the teams success (although Wall didnt play outstanding), Porter emerged as a good defender 3 and d guy, Pierce hit clutch shots but where the series was won was with Gortat and Nene absolutely destroying Toronto’s frontcourt and within the coaching from Wittman beating Casey’s gameplan which was very bad coaching.

    So with all this talk about fighting through negativity, showing leadership, and maintaining good morale just keep in mind its a process. The process is not completed by gutting the roster it is ended and a new process would begin.

     

     

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  • #1028037
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    OhCanada-
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     Gortat was huge for them last year he isn’t just an average player. I watched the whole Raptors series. Basically Wall and Heal laid down the foundation for the teams success (although Wall didnt play outstanding), Porter emerged as a good defender 3 and d guy, Pierce hit clutch shots but where the series was won was with Gortat and Nene absolutely destroying Toronto’s frontcourt and within the coaching from Wittman beating Casey’s gameplan which was very bad coaching.

    So with all this talk about fighting through negativity, showing leadership, and maintaining good morale just keep in mind its a process. The process is not completed by gutting the roster it is ended and a new process would begin.

     

     

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  • #1027934
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    Cynthia
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    They aren’t going to blow up anything as long as they still think they have a chance at Durant.

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  • #1028069
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    Cynthia
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    They aren’t going to blow up anything as long as they still think they have a chance at Durant.

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  • #1027948
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    Bmore_DC
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     Why on gods green earth would the Wiz trade Beal for Cousins or Okafor? Have you been to DC before…? Hahaha. 

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  • #1028083
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     Why on gods green earth would the Wiz trade Beal for Cousins or Okafor? Have you been to DC before…? Hahaha. 

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  • #1028161
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     Blow it up? Why? They already have a young foundation that most teams would kill for. Wall, Beal, Porter, and Oubre are all solid prospects, and the later two have already shown to be game changer nba talents. They just need a better coach and more reliable bigs. 

    I actually like the adjustments that they made by starting Porter at the 4, and having Dudley play the 3. It gives them more spacing and defensive flexability than when they had Kris Humphries starting. I think we’ll see them play a lot better now because of this. 

    I do think that ideally they need to target a good PF who can space the floor, defend, and rebound. Someone like Thad Young or Taj Gibson would be absolutely killer for this team right now. 

    But even if they do make a trade to get better, they still have one of the more clueless coaches in the league. He showed me a little skill last year in the playoffs, but during the regular season he’s been terrible. 

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  • #1028026
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     Blow it up? Why? They already have a young foundation that most teams would kill for. Wall, Beal, Porter, and Oubre are all solid prospects, and the later two have already shown to be game changer nba talents. They just need a better coach and more reliable bigs. 

    I actually like the adjustments that they made by starting Porter at the 4, and having Dudley play the 3. It gives them more spacing and defensive flexability than when they had Kris Humphries starting. I think we’ll see them play a lot better now because of this. 

    I do think that ideally they need to target a good PF who can space the floor, defend, and rebound. Someone like Thad Young or Taj Gibson would be absolutely killer for this team right now. 

    But even if they do make a trade to get better, they still have one of the more clueless coaches in the league. He showed me a little skill last year in the playoffs, but during the regular season he’s been terrible. 

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  • #1028163
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     The Wizards would ideally want to keep their young core, they might get something for Nene, he is an expiring deal and a high character guy so a rebuilding team wanting a locker room presence or a contender wanting another solid big option off the bench might consider him.

     

     

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  • #1028028
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     The Wizards would ideally want to keep their young core, they might get something for Nene, he is an expiring deal and a high character guy so a rebuilding team wanting a locker room presence or a contender wanting another solid big option off the bench might consider him.

     

     

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