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Is Wade done?

Is he done as a superstar player? Can't beat anyone off the dribble anymore. His speed and explosiveness is all but gone not much of a jump shooter. Aside from the occasional post up all his points come from transition or wide open cuts to the basket.


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I don't know. I'm not sure how he got his 24 against the Wiz and season high 34 against BK but I have been worried about his jumper for a while. He used to be streaky and fairly clutch from long range but I haven't seen much consistency during Heat games I've watched for the last couple of years.

I'm still pretty sure he's still quick enough to beat people off the dribble, he certainly was in the playoffs last year. Obviously he has had surgery since but I know from his twitter account he is working to maintain his athleticism.

Twitter/Instagram quote:
"Coming off of knee surgery you have to work harder just to get back to where you were b4. just to get back to where you were b4. If you wanna be better you take #NoDaysoff"

He may have been working too hard.

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He just looks

He just looks under-conditioned. After any knee surgery, its next to impossible to gain anything close to the running stamina required to play effectively. Combined with the fact that hes a naturally bulky player, a la Ray Felton, James Harden, or Al Jefferson, he's prone to gaining weight faster than a svelte player like Kobe (who had to lift like a beast to gain just 15 pounds) or Brandon Jennings. By the end of the year, I suspect this will be a non-issue.

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Lebron James

The same thing thing will happen to Lebron in about 2 years from now.

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Taller and bigger players

Taller and bigger players usually have longer lasting careers then shorter players. LB could also take the steps to becoming more of a top of the key PF type player as he gets older. Because he definitely has the bulk and adequate height for the position. He has been showing since last year that he has been working on his post game more too. Dwyane Wade isn't a bad passer, but Lebron passing ability and court vision is on par with many PG's in the league also.

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I don't know if he's done but

I don't know if he's done but he's getting on my nerves. Not really the way he plays but his demeanour. Lebron was so ticked off after the knicks loss that he worked out after the game, putting work overtime. Lebron who had a 30,10,9,3 game was the one who went to work, and not the 13 point scoring d wade. He really needs to do something... It's just regular season but he needs to do something. That was a terrible loss!

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D. Wade will be 31 years old

D. Wade will be 31 years old in Jan. I don't think people realize that. Even though he's younger and has less minutes on his body than Kobe, his body may be older due to the amount of wear and tear he's had on his knees.

He's definitely on the decline, but he's not done. People need to give him time to recover from his knee surgery. You don't heal as quick when you get older.

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Wade has never been able to

Wade has never been able to stay healthy long in his career so all the wear and tear is finally catching up to him, he can till contribute but his days of dominance are most likely ending. He has waited way too log to try and switch up his game now he is paying for it

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Wade

It's all about adjusting. I think Wade will have to learn to adjust and save his legs. Obviously he can't go 100% full speed all the time, but can use his athletic ability in spurts. I see Kobe in certain plays where I see him do that.

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yes his injuries play a part

yes his injuries play a part but i dont see what will change when he gets "healthy". hes a sg who predominantly slashes...with a pull up pumpfake which will not work by the time playoffs come because of his inability to shoot. he use to have a decent midrange game but it has just disappeared...he really needs to work with ray allen on his shooting...whenever ray is practicing his shooting i would hope that wade is right beside him doing the same thing.

its disappointing seeing this decline as a fan of his but its the truth...anyone believing that the old dwade will ome back is wrong it just wont happen...his body is older than his age may suggest. someone above had it right on the dot stating that.

when shumpert comes back and avery bradley comes back...those playoff matchups with the heat will be interesting because they will absolutely shut him down.

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He is not done

Just not young. He will have the spring some nights and wont on others. He is still quick just only explosive in 1 out of 3 games.

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I'm going with

Under conditioned. Yeah you know players decline but Wade just looked gassed. I think people are overreacting a little bit.

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The guy was injured the

The guy was injured the entire playoffs last season and still shut-down every SG the Heat faced. He was also injured most of the regular season and still managed 22ppg.

He just came off of surgery, give him some time to get back into shape and get some strength back into those knees.

By March, he'll be averaging 22-23 ppg once again.

Not to mention, these last two season, he's played a career low in minutes and has had the ball in his hands less often, that's the only reason his numbers have taken a dip. There's a reason he went from 33mpg in the regular season to nearly 40mpg in the playoffs. Spoelstra is saving Wade because once the post-season begins, Wade will be 100%.

Give him time.

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So he's been "hurt" for the

So he's been "hurt" for the last 2 years, and he's 31, but come playoff time, he going to be 100%? Come on dude, that is just stupid to say. I don't think Wade is "done", he is still a very good player. However he is never going to be a superstar again, along the lines of being a top 5 player in the league. He just isn't that guy anymore, he doesn't have the explosiveness, he just isn't quite as good. Your take on him is definitely wishful thinking, when he is a guy who gets hurt constantly. I'm glad you believe he's going to be 100%, but a guy like that may never be 100% again.

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Funny thing is, he's shown

Funny thing is, he's shown what I just said in the last two playoffs.

While I have two playoffs as evidence, you have nothing.

So in reality, what's a stupider thing to say?

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I really didn't think Wade

I really didn't think Wade was that great in the playoffs other than the Indiana series. He was fairly quiet vs the Celtics and Thunder.

a "stupider" thing to say, is that a player that is 31 years old and has shown decline isn't declining, that is a stupider thing to say. Why is he hurt now? If he was healthy in the playoffs last year according to you, then when did these "injuries" take place? I know he was "locking down" the likes of Landry Fields, Paul George, and a beyond-worn down Ray Allen, but c'mon, anyone who remembers D Wade last year in the playoffs comparable to what he had done in the past is just lieing to them selves.

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It's not that Wade isn't

It's not that Wade isn't declining. Of course, every player over the age of 30, hell maybe even 28, is declining. But he has not declined as much as you guys are saying. He's playing a new role. He's not longer the ball-dominant 30PPG player he used to be because he's not supposed to. Instead, he's the tertiary ball-handler on the court behind James and Chalmers. He doesn't have to go out there and put up 25 shots a game anymore.

I mean, do you honestly believe that if James and Bosh didn't join the Heat in 2010, Wade wouldn't be putting up over 20PPG this season? I mean, you've got to be kidding yourself if you truly believe that.

There are more offensive weapons on the court and Wade respects and accepts his new role, which is being a defensive stopper and sidekick to LeBron. And he's doing a damn good job of it if you ask me. Don't take my word for it, look at his numbers since he's took over this new role.

2012 playoffs:
JR Smith: 12.2 PPG, 31.5% FG
Landry Frields: 7.2 PPG, 46% FG
Paul George: 10 PPG, 36.5% FG
Leandro Barbosa: 5.1 PPG, 31% FG
Ray Allen: 11.7 PPG, 40.2% FG
James Harden: 12.4 PPG, 37.5% FG

Not enough for you? Well then, let's take a look at this season's numbers as well.
Starting shooting guards vs the Miami Heat when Dwyane Wade plays:
12.3 PPG, 40.4% FG

And yes, that includes the likes of Joe Johnson, Monta Ellis, Andre Iguodala, and James Harden. I also threw in Jamal Crawford and JR Smith, since they pretty much play starter minutes.

Again, do you truly believe he'd be averaging under 20ppg this season if James and Bosh didn't join the Heat in 2010?

Simply injuries and a new role have redefined Wade's career.

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To be fair Harden choked on

To be fair Harden choked on his own, it had nothing to do with D-Wade. D-Wade was getting lit up by Westbrook too.

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None of those players save

None of those players save Harden are very good from the playoff stretch...

If Miami didn't have Bosh or Bron, they'd be a 7-8 seed at best, so yes, he could easily score over 20 PPG. That is essentially what OJ Mayo is doing. And there is a noticeable difference. He just isn't the guy he used to be, and its not just a role change, he just isn't as good. He is a bad jump shooter, doesn't have the same explosion as he used to.

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Done?

He's like Facebook...he ain't going anywhere anytime soon

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After Wade scored 26 while beating ATL

Wade is now 20 for 25 in his last two games from the floor, scoring 26 points in each, and maybe it's not a coincidence that those outings came after NBA analyst Charles Barkley - Wade's one-time cell phone commercial co-star - said what he's been saying many times in the past couple years: The 2006 NBA Finals MVP's game is declining.
"It means Charles Barkley needs to shut up," James said. "I mean, the man's shooting 80 percent from the floor in the last couple games. Come on, man. That's like crazy, right? That's why he is who he is."

What is superstar status anyway?

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D. Wade isn't done, but he's

D. Wade isn't done, but he's definitely declining. Just because he shot well the last two games doesn't change that.

He's going on 31 years old, he's always hurt and is coming off like his 2nd or 3rd knee surgery. Decline happens to everybody. What I'm more interested in is how he adapts his game during his decline and how long he can stay a high level player as he ages.

We've seen Kobe damn near get better with age... Can D. Wade do the same thing?

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