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- Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:00pm #49229
beard20ParticipantThanks Vogel, you single handedly lost the game for your team tonight . What other coach would take out there best rim protector when your team is up by 1. Give up the jumpshot but a uncontested layup? Are you kidding me?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:03pm #780807
BenchWarmerParticipantHe makes some poor rotational choices. Lebron is the best in the league at finishing at the rim..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:03pm #780740
BenchWarmerParticipantHe makes some poor rotational choices. Lebron is the best in the league at finishing at the rim..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:41pm #780804
DolanCareParticipantMental lapse on Vogel’s part. IMO he thought that there was no way they would get to the rack, and would be forced to take a jump shot…… it’s FN stupid, but that’s what I think was bouncing around Vogel’s head at that particular moment.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 05/22/2013 - 6:41pm #780871
DolanCareParticipantMental lapse on Vogel’s part. IMO he thought that there was no way they would get to the rack, and would be forced to take a jump shot…… it’s FN stupid, but that’s what I think was bouncing around Vogel’s head at that particular moment.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 1:55am #780912
max23ParticipantPissed me off too…live and learn,I guess.But he better not make this mistake again this series…
I’m very surprised how evenly matched these 2 teams are,well as long as Hibbert is on the floor.Great defense by Paul George,well adide from the ot((fatigue???).0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 1:55am #780979
max23ParticipantPissed me off too…live and learn,I guess.But he better not make this mistake again this series…
I’m very surprised how evenly matched these 2 teams are,well as long as Hibbert is on the floor.Great defense by Paul George,well adide from the ot((fatigue???).0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:01am #780924
Ghost01ParticipantIt was an absolutely terrible coaching move. Yes, George played bad D on that play. But anyone who understands the difference of the possibility if giving up a layup and the possibility if some role player getting an open jumpshot understands why hibbert should have been out there
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:01am #780991
Ghost01ParticipantIt was an absolutely terrible coaching move. Yes, George played bad D on that play. But anyone who understands the difference of the possibility if giving up a layup and the possibility if some role player getting an open jumpshot understands why hibbert should have been out there
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:58am #780948
Toronto16ParticipantWhen he first took Hibbert out in that OT, the first thing LeBron did was drive to the basket for an uncontested lay up. So naturally, with the game on the line he leaves Hibbert on the bench so LeBron can drive to the basket for an uncontested lay up.
Seems legit to me.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:58am #781015
Toronto16ParticipantWhen he first took Hibbert out in that OT, the first thing LeBron did was drive to the basket for an uncontested lay up. So naturally, with the game on the line he leaves Hibbert on the bench so LeBron can drive to the basket for an uncontested lay up.
Seems legit to me.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 6:00am #781097
raybeasParticipantyou all thought Indiana should have been in a zone? Because Hibbert would have to guard Bosh or Battier or Ray Allen on the perimeter. The reason no one was guarding the paint was because Miami had no inside presence the whole game. Paul George overran Lebron and gave up a layup instead of a jump shot.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 6:00am #781030
raybeasParticipantyou all thought Indiana should have been in a zone? Because Hibbert would have to guard Bosh or Battier or Ray Allen on the perimeter. The reason no one was guarding the paint was because Miami had no inside presence the whole game. Paul George overran Lebron and gave up a layup instead of a jump shot.
0- Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 2:43pm #781448
beard20ParticipantI would rather give a uncontested 2 to Battier or Allen then a uncontested layup to Lebron. Game situation on a uncontested 20 footer to Allen, Battier or Bosh is say 55-60 %. That layup for Lebron is near 100%. Pick your poison.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 2:43pm #781515
beard20ParticipantI would rather give a uncontested 2 to Battier or Allen then a uncontested layup to Lebron. Game situation on a uncontested 20 footer to Allen, Battier or Bosh is say 55-60 %. That layup for Lebron is near 100%. Pick your poison.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 9:06am #781191
cominup7ParticipantThat was a classic example of a young coach overthinking the situation…he tried to match up with Miami’s quickness when all he needed to do was continue to clog the paint, which had been working for them all game. They needed this game and hopefully Indy can bounce back
I doubt it
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 9:06am #781259
cominup7ParticipantThat was a classic example of a young coach overthinking the situation…he tried to match up with Miami’s quickness when all he needed to do was continue to clog the paint, which had been working for them all game. They needed this game and hopefully Indy can bounce back
I doubt it
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:43pm #781484
kobyzParticipantwhy Vogel is more on the grill rather than Paul George for that last play?
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 5:17am #781901
beard20ParticipantBecause of the fact it was the 2nd time Vogel made the exact same mistake and the same play happened both times
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/24/2013 - 5:17am #781970
beard20ParticipantBecause of the fact it was the 2nd time Vogel made the exact same mistake and the same play happened both times
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:43pm #781551
kobyzParticipantwhy Vogel is more on the grill rather than Paul George for that last play?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:51pm #781490
kobyzParticipantand also it was a clearly a travel violation on behalf of LeBron James that should have been called, he was severely moving his pivot foot, that the only reason he was went through George and getting to tha basket that quickly and easy
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 3:51pm #781557
kobyzParticipantand also it was a clearly a travel violation on behalf of LeBron James that should have been called, he was severely moving his pivot foot, that the only reason he was went through George and getting to tha basket that quickly and easy
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 6:29pm #781660
LipstickParticipantlol, pretty sure they’re not calling a travel in that situation unless he doesn’t take a single dribble.
Indiana was exploited twice in a row with Hibbert out. It happened in Game 6 versus New York too. Didn’t he say he wouldn’t adjust to Miami and let them adjust to Indiana instead?
Then those substitutions happen, like Hansbrough or Young is an upgrade. If he played Hibbert the whole game, I don’t get why he continues to get subbed out when the stakes are the highest.
And Sam Young could’ve fouled or done something, anything when LeBron was going for the layup. He was in position to make a defensive play on LeBron but nothing happened. If Hibbert was there, James would’ve had to at least alter his shot even if he blew by George.
Nobody can defend LeBron by themselves. He wouldn’t be the best player in the game if that were the case. To replace Hibbert with Young or Hansbrough in the waning moments of the game was just bad. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad coach. He’s done a heck of a job. But those late-game adjustments were disappointing to me.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 05/23/2013 - 6:29pm #781727
LipstickParticipantlol, pretty sure they’re not calling a travel in that situation unless he doesn’t take a single dribble.
Indiana was exploited twice in a row with Hibbert out. It happened in Game 6 versus New York too. Didn’t he say he wouldn’t adjust to Miami and let them adjust to Indiana instead?
Then those substitutions happen, like Hansbrough or Young is an upgrade. If he played Hibbert the whole game, I don’t get why he continues to get subbed out when the stakes are the highest.
And Sam Young could’ve fouled or done something, anything when LeBron was going for the layup. He was in position to make a defensive play on LeBron but nothing happened. If Hibbert was there, James would’ve had to at least alter his shot even if he blew by George.
Nobody can defend LeBron by themselves. He wouldn’t be the best player in the game if that were the case. To replace Hibbert with Young or Hansbrough in the waning moments of the game was just bad. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad coach. He’s done a heck of a job. But those late-game adjustments were disappointing to me.
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