UTH-PHI Trade Idea
If Embiid and Wiggins are selected for the first two picks, the 76ers should look at this trade:
PHI- 5th overall pick, Alec Burks, 23rd overall pick
UTH- 3rd overall pick, 32nd pick
The 76ers get Alec Burks, an athletic two-guard, who is a volume scorer. Obviously he is not a project, but should start at the 2. They also move down to select a power forward (Probably Julius Randle). They also get a 1st rounder where they can select a SF or another shooter.
The Jazz get Jabari Parker and move down to a high second round pick. With it being so deep, it won't really matter if they move a few spots. Also, while I am not a Jazz fan, I thought Hayward played better at the 2 than the 3.
would love to hear anyone's thoughts.
I've said it once and I'll say it again: If Utah wants Parker, then they need to trade up to the 2nd pick not the 3rd pick. Why, if Parker falls to the third pick the Sixers will take him. They tanked this year so they could land either Wiggins or Parker. They'd prefer Wiggins but they will settle for Parker if he's available and Wiggins is not. (To me settling for Parker isn't really settling at all) The Bucks on the other hand, they might pass on Parker because he plays the same position as the Greek Freak. Both are versatile, but we all know both of their true positions are at the 3. The Bucks also like Exum and Randle. (I'm not quite sure if they like them over Parker, though) They like Exum because they want to move Knight to the 2 because of his shooting ability. Exum has the size that he can help mask Knight's small height for a 2. (he's 6'3 pretty small for a two guard) They like Randle because of his dominating presence down low (bulldozer like ability) They think that would fit really well next to Sanders, and then they can bring Henson off the bench as the first big man to replace Sanders. Both Exum and Randle have better value at the 5th pick then they do at the 2nd pick, so they would be more willing to trade with Utah then Philly would.
As for the trade not bad, although Burks really proved himself this year. As a Jazz fan, I like him a lot. He proved himself as a bonafide scorer. I don't think the Jazz want to part with that. By next year he could be as valuable as Harden was to the Thunder when they traded him to Houston for Martin, Lamb and other players/picks. Kanter might be a better guy to trade instead. Although, I'm having second thoughts about him being traded too. Another thing I don't like is the 2nd round pick from Philly. Utah already has an early secound rounder, that is only two or three spots lower than Philly's is. I don't think there is really that much value between those two picks as there is in the first round.
How about this Jazz trade 5th pick, 23rd pick, and a 2015 pick (top 7 protected) to the Bucks for the 2nd pick?
I understand where you are coming from, and I agree with you, but the thought came to my head and I wanted to know what everyone else thought. As for the Bucks-Jazz trade, they would need to include Kanter or Burks. The Bucks need someone who can score and it makes even less sense for them to trade down, without getting another lottery pick. I am going to bet that it I going to take 3 team trades to make much go down on draft day.
Sweeten the deal to move to 3. I don't think Burks and moving up 9 spots later in the draft is nearly enough to pass on Parker for the Sixers.
The Sixers need a star and Jabari is a good one. If Hinkie decides that he prefers Exum that is one thing, but he would probably be taken by the magic in between 3 and 5 so there really is nothing to be gained by trading with the Jazz.
Plus Burks is a nice player, but nothing that is going to move the needle for us, and we can probably get a pick in the low 20's other ways without trading back from our first pick.
Thanks for your comment, and like the post above yours I understand where you are coming from. I saw Jabari's measurements post after I posted my idea. If he is a legit 6'9", then he can play both forward positions, making him more valuable than Randle. I would not overlook Burks though. He is a volume scorer, from the games I watched, and has a unique set of skills that the 76ers could use.
The more I watch some of Parkers video's the more I hope the Jazz find a way to get him, the suggested trade would be fine with me, Burks has proven he can score in this league and is better than his # 12 draft position and either Philly or the Bucks could use him then the 5th pick would also allow them to get a top quality PF like Randle or Vonleh depending on who they like. The bucks could use a player like Kanter also, so substituting Kanter for Burks in this trade could work . I like both Kanter and Burks, they are both good players that haven't shown us how good they will end up but I like Parker enough to give them up, if Parker would end up a Jazz man.
I honestly don't see the top 3 picks being traded, it's all speculation but I don't see it unless you get a kings ransom. I'm not trading the 3rd pick if I'm philly unless I get a young star/ Allstar.
This isn't even your idea.... Bill Simmons article:
Q: Can you give us four more predictions for the 2014 lottery?
Sure! I’ll even throw on my Clairvoyant Bill hat for you …
Prediction No. 1: Utah tries like hell to trade up for Jabari Parker.
I’m almost positive that Jabari is the first Mormon who can be described like this: “A little bit of Paul Pierce and a little Carmelo offensively, only if they were more fun to play with, and they were trapped in Rudy Gay’s body if Rudy needed to go gluten-free and hire a personal trainer.” Hey, Sam Hinkie, you love collecting assets like Leo DiCaprio collects models. And you’re not crazy about taking Jabari, anyway — what if Utah flipped you no. 5 for no. 3 and no. 23 and threw in Alec Burks plus a first-round pick-swap in any of the next three years? Would that do it? Any interest? Any?
No it's not familiar, but thanks! I didn't know someone else had the same idea.
I love Jabarri Parker as much as anyone but dam thats a lot for 1 prospect
We would have the 5th, 10th, 23rd, 32nd and 39th picks to add some serious talent to surround MCW and Noel with
I dont want to trade Parker by any means but a trade offer like this has to be considered
I see all the top 3 teams liking Burks, he would be a future upgrade over anything they have now. He destroyed Miami in one game this year. Does 5 + Burks + 23 get it done....probably depends on how Vonleh's workout with those teams go.
I would give up Embiid for that kinda deal from Utah, but would not give up Parker if he falls to us at 3.
But, let's assume that it does happen, exercise our imagination, and that Utah falls for it, and they take Embiid at 3 (if Parker and Wiggins were gone by then). That means our friendly neighborhood Sixers can potentially field a lineup of:
* Julius Randle (PF) - 5th pick
* Thad Young (SF)
* Nerlens Noel (C)
* Alec Burks (SG)
* MCW (PG)
Hopefully, C-Early will still be there at 23. If not, take KJ McDaniels. Then Mitch McGary with 32.
Oops. Meant to say Mitch McGary with #39.
Would the Sixers do 5 + 23 + Rudy Gobert for Embiid?
Gobert is longer than even Embiid. Would give you another good center prospect, he averaged 3.4 blocks and 13 rebounds per36. Needs to put on weight though.
The year that Burks came out, this site's player profiles compared him to Eddie Jones and ET. I truly have to laugh at that. Burks may be a little like Eddie Jones, but he plays nothing like Evan Turner. Burks plays at a level that Turner can only dream about. Compared to that scrub, Burks is an elite athlete.