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Utah Jazz - Moving Forward

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Utah Jazz - Moving Forward

What I think that the Jazz should do moving forward...

As of right now they stand

PG - Devin Harris, Earl Watson, Ronnie Price

SG - CJ Miles, Raja Bell, Kyle Weaver

SF - Andrei Kirilenko, Gordon Hayward

PF - Paul Millsap, Derrick Favors

C - Al Jefferson, Mehmet Okur, Kyrylo Fesenko, Francisco Elson

They also have two lottery pick this year most likely going to be 6th, and 12th

Pick up team option for CJ Miles, relatively cheap at 3.7 million

Re-sign Andrei for 4-5 million per for 2 years to come off the bench

Re-sign Fesenko same deal he had one year at 1 million

Re-sign Ronnie Price at 1 million, one year contract

Re-Sign Earl Watson at 1 million, one year contract

Package the draft picks (6,12) along with Mehmet Okur's expiring contract for Minnesota's (1,19) and Darko Milicic and Martell Webster

With Number 1 pick choose Kyrie Irving and at 19 choose Jordan Hamilton (Texas)

Trade Devin Harris, Raja Bell, Darko Milicic for Greg Oden, Armon Johnson, Luke Babbit and a 2012 First round draft pick

Current Team

PG - Kyrie Irving, Ronnie Price, Earl Watson Armon Johnson

SG - Gordon Hayward, Martell Webster

SF - CJ Miles, Jordan Hamilton, Luke Babbit

PF - Derrick Favors, Paul Millsap, Andrei Kirilenko

C - Al Jefferson, Greg Oden, Kyrylo Fesenko

Basically giving the keys to Kyrie Irving as we did with Deron and hope that he can lead us.

Hopefully Gordon Hayward will be able to live up to the potential of the 9th pick and be a great SG for Jazz. 34 points he had tonight against Denver is a good sign going into next year.

Jordan Hamilton could be a good pick for Utah as Texas played Utah's system in college last year and he is a player that thrives under a system.

CJ Miles, though inconsistent I believe will be a good player in this league and if they want to bring him off the bench him and Martell can be interchangeable.

Babbit is a last years first round draft pick buried in deep Portland team along with Armon Johnson who could show the team something if given opportunity to play.

Give Oden Qualifying offer after the trade see how well he'll do. He needs a change of scenery and not having much expectation for the first time in his career could allow him to thrive.

Favors would be key as if he develops a low post game under Millsap and Jefferson could really be a star and allow Utah to bring Millsap who's already shown who could be a great sixth man and do what he does best, dirty work.

They also have next years GS draft pick along with Portland's 1st. They owe their draft pick as long as it's not lottery but even with that more talent will be had for Utah.

I think this team could challenge for a playoff spot in the West starting next year, but experience will be the key as this is a really young team, only veterans being Earl Watson, Andrei Kirilenko, Millsap and Jefferson. But with this team the future is bright in Utah and could finally be that championship team Utah has long been craving. (also finally having some length and height)


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Kirilenko is signing in one

Kirilenko is signing in one place and it starts with New and ends in Jersey.

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Welcome back.

Welcome back Cpoint. Your plan is not bad but its needs to be a little more realistic. Some things you might want to consider are:

  • The Salary cap will most likely be lowered so as much as the Jazz would love to resign Watson and AK they might not have enough money to do so.
  • Harris and Okur both have big expiring contracts and nobody but the Wolves want Darko so I don't think the Blazers would be interested in giving up their #1 pick for them. \
  • Hayward is more of a 3 than a 2, but he is only going to get better so I would start him to. He might be a better player to start if AK leaves next year which is pretty much gauranteed with the lowered salary cap.
  • Remember the Jazz still have the Warriors pick in 2012 so they can still use that draft to rebuild which will undoubtedly be much better than this draft.
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I really wanna see

The jazz completely blow it up and just suck for a few years. I know it will be hard as a die hard jazz fan but I will we develop talent extremely well and that is why we have always been very consistant but via a OKC or even a Sac I feel adding through the draft is the direction we need to go. I know AK47 has been absolutely insanely fabulous for us. But with this draft and next years draft we are going to be bringing in so many wings that he maybe just taking away playing time from hayward and our other developing future wings. I also am not huge on al. I know he puts up gaudy numbers but he has never been on a winning team and may block an occassional shot but he is no great post defender. I would shop him around and take an offer if it was the right deal, say any lotto in the 2012 draft... All in all I like favors and hayward and hoping we grab a couple more solid future products and start moving towards a title conteder and not just a playoff 4-6 seed every year type team.

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thats alot of transactions

thats alot of transactions that wont happen..

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Harris is in signed through

Harris is in signed through 2012/2013

Obviously it's not going to happen but it would be ideal I think if it were to go through.

Portland wanted Devin Harris during trade deadline and I could see them wanting to upgrade that position and then not pick up Andre Miller's team option for 2011/2012, Also the trade is iffy as I'm not sure how Portland feels about Oden and it seems kinda one way trade benefitting Jazz (one can dream right)

Also Hayward I think is more fit for 2 then a 3. He started at 2 today and did pretty well (though it was against Nuggets team that had nothing to play for) But he also went up against Kobe couple games ago and did pretty well.

I think if Jazz can have Ak for mid-level they might try, but not for more then 2-3 years and also Watson won't cost more then what cost them this year. Which is 1 million which is quite bargain if Watson does want to return.

Also I think if we can get Kyrie we should and for 2012 draft Warriors pick it's top 7 protected.... so even though it's deep it's still top 7 protected and who knows what GS could be in 2012

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The Jazz's veteran free
  • The Jazz's veteran free agents like Watson, and AK are going to want to sign with a contender since they want to make a run for a trophy. That is obvious. Watson signed with Utah in the offseason because they were winning, now that they are losing and might be losing next year as well I don't think he will want to come back.
  • Yes Portland wanted Harris around the Trade deadline but they were hoping to deal Miller for him. They still want to see what they can get out of Oden and aren't ready to give up on him yet. Besides that offer is still really weak.
  • One thing you have to learn about posting rebuilding plans on this site is that they need to be realistic not just a bunch of dreams that will never happen. Yes, one can dream but anyone can dream get a little more creative yet realistic plan.
  • Building through the draft is probably the best for the Jazz to do, but don't fret about missing out on Irving the lottery order has not been determined yet. The Jazz might get lucky and get a top 3 pick.
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If you follow Jazz correctly

If you follow Jazz correctly they've both said on numerous occasion that they would like to be back. Also what contender is going to want Watson when there are so many quality PG's to be had or one's that don't have them will end up drafting them. Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Magic, Thunder and even Heat all have better PG's then Watson. (In Heat's case a better fit)

Offer isn't as weak as it seems if it's straight up as all my other deals go through. Milicic can be counted to be healthy and defensive presence needed to play along Aldridge if Camby goes down, Bell is a defensive stopper or the Veteran present on a playoff team and Harris is a huge upgrade over Miller as Portland looks to run with Wallace, Matthew as Harris is also improved three pointer (which miller doesn't possess) Also then they can let Miller walk and it'll also be a cap relief as Oden leaves (9 million qualifying offer) Miller (Option at 7 million)

Obviously I'm not just putting this out for Fantasy land as I'm not saying trade Fesenko for Kobe and yet farfetched as it seems it could happen. For Minnesota who doesn't have a need for D.Williams (Arizona) or Kyrie Irving if they are to bring Rubio they could move down and get two lottery picks to build on talent and they also get Okur and see what they can do with him as Okur and Love will be the best frontline from shooting perspective. If not they get cap space as Milicic is signed for 3 more years along with Webster (both around 5 million per)

I understand that lottery hasn't happened that is why I said they'll likely choose 6th and 12th. Winning the lottery could be just another dream as well.

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