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usa vs turkey

usa in a dog fight early, turkey up by 5 as i type this. So far usa's defense has been poor giving up dribble penetration way too easy. USA turning it over on offense playing one on one too much. Also turkey is intentionally fouling after every turnover so they dont allow usa to get in transition.


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Ugh

Yep, USA looking pretty weak out there. But some of this is just missing shots. Big problem is that the USA guards can't pressure the ball. They just don't have the personel to do it. Also I like the d that Asik can bring for Turkey.

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Team USA needs to be pushed

Team USA needs to be pushed and play a close game. It gets pretty old watching them blow everybody out. The world has obviously caught up with us in terms of talent. Nobody will ever be able to keep up with us in terms of raw athletic ability, but everybody in the world is so skilled and has been playing together for so long. There isn't really anybody on this team that I'm overly thrilled about watching. Not really seeing any passion and emotion from the guys. It didn't help that Jerry Colangelo called Harden a leader when that's obviously not true. Of course we're playing without Lebron and Durant and I think it's good for young guys like Kyrie, Steph and Andre Drummond to get international experience because those guys will be locks for the 2016 Olympic team.

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The rest of the world has

The rest of the world has absolutely NOT caught up. I hate when I read people saying that. Caught up implies they are running beside us. They are still running way, way behind us. Yes, the rest of the work is light years ahead of where they were 20 years ago when the sport of basketball was so global. But, despite their lackluster first have they still won by 21. And the team we have over there at this moment is, quite honestly, our third stringers. So, to say they've "caught up" is an overstatement. The game against Spain, if and when it happens will be the best game to compare where the other countries are.

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is it crazy for me to say

is it crazy for me to say spain actually looks better then the US? gasol bro and ibaka down low is already gonna be a problem. spains backcourt is stacked!!and the fact that this spain team have been playing together for a few years now and have yput up a match with our first team already!

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I think Spain has a great

I think Spain has a great team but let's be honest, The US playing against themselves, I say that meaning, playing hard every game, and playing like a team! If they can do I truly don't see anyone beating them.

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They are

They are catching up ....... the 2012 Olympics Spain lost by what ? 7 points ... it's a far cry from when in 92 they were destroying teams by 40-50 points plus ... now it's 21 maybe in 10-20 years it's 10 they are closing the gap maybe not caught up just yet

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Small Countries

Some of the Euro countries in the tournament are pretty small. Like Finland. Hard to field a team against a big country like the US. In some ways the country has caught up. Finland can play basketball at a high level. But when you are the size of Minnesota in terms of population tough to expect that many world class athletes to be in their prime at once.

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Talk about Lithuania, it's

Talk about Lithuania, it's smaller than Connecticut, yet they've always had competitive teams. It's pretty amazing how much they love basketball there.

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USA guards have to stop being

USA guards have to stop being so shot happy and learn to swing the ball...and work to their advantage which is their big man (davis and cousins)..Almost like watching a ASG

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didn't see it mentioned on

didn't see it mentioned on here, but on NBA radio today, they were ripping Harden for his "total lack of defensive effort". I didn't catch the game, but on one play Harden's lack of defense went "viral" when his man went right by him and shot a 3 for a tie with 3:40 left in the game and a tie score.

One of the problems with this team, unlike teams from the past, there really isn't a natural leader because there isn't a "great older veteran". Everybody is still relatively young with no clear cut best player. While the USA team has a lot of great weapons, who should be considered as their "go-to Guy" if they are in a tight game?

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I think there are lots of

I think there are lots of players who can score in that roster. What they really need is running some sort of organized offense. It seems they score 70% in transition and 30% in one-on-one situations. That's not going to cut against zone-heavy defenses.

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One Play

The Harden thing was one play. His defense isn't good, but it was okay during that game. It certainl wasn't the problem. And then it was his offense running pick and role with AD that turned the game into a blow out. And that is their go to guy. Their go to play is Harden running pick and role with AD, Curry and Thompson spotting for threes and Faried crashing the boards once the pick and role disrupts the defense. Hence why Harden is considered the leader. Because everyone knows the ball will be in his hands down the stretch if the game is tight.

Note that there really isn't a role for Kyrie's ball handling or D Rose's explosiveness. Those guys are great, but the fact is that they aren't as good as Harden (Kyrie because he just isn't as good and Rose, at the very least, because he is rusty.) To a certain extent this is the same issue that Lin had. Good PG with the ball in his hands, but just not nearly at Harden's level. Kyrie and Rose are, of course, much closer. But still no particular reason to call a play for them as long as Harden is healthy and isn't too tired.

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Kawhi Leonard would've been

Kawhi Leonard would've been the perfect fit for Team USA...

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