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The Upside And Potential OF Perry Jones

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The Upside And Potential OF Perry Jones

Perry Jones
It's frustrating to watch a player with so much talent, struggle to utilize his massive ability in ways that allows him to consistently dominate games, and Perry Jones represents that truth in many ways. He's extremely talented, with a variety of skills and unbelievable physical ability, but for some reason, struggles to utilize his great ability in ways that allows him to play at a very high level on a consistent basis. In my opinion Perry Jones is the most talented NBA prospect in this year’s NBA draft, and possesses the upside to be the best player in this year’s draft if he develops properly and finds a way to utilize his great talent and ability in an efficient matter. When you compare him to Anthony Davis, Perry jones is actually bigger, more skilled, and possesses better all-around athletic ability, but Anthony Davis knows how to utilize his great talent and ability in ways that allows him to consistently dominate games at the college level, which is why Anthony Davis will be the number one pick in the draft.
My opinion of Perry Jones weaknesses and strengths:
STRENGTHS

  • His athleticism is simply off the charts and gives him the opportunity to develop into a special player once he learns how to combine his athleticism with a high skill level, a high basketball IQ, and maximum effort on every play. It's really only a handful of players that can compete with his athleticism at the NBA Level
  • His all-around offensive skill set shows a lot of potential. He's a good decision maker who plays patiently with-in the coaches offensive scheme, he's very unselfish and is always willing to make the needed and extra pass, he challenges himself to play mistake free basketball and rarely turns the ball over. He moves very well with-out the ball, flashes to open spots on the floor, and always makes himself a very reliable target to finish plays when he receives passes from teammates ( alley-oops, backdoor cuts, pick and pop situations, etc. ) His ball handling skills is very very underrated, and he has the ability to handle the ball similar to a Lamar Odom or Scottie Pippen. And I personally think with more experience and development he has the ability to develop into a point forward type of player similar to a Lamar Odom and Scottie Pippen. His freshman year at Baylor, he actually played some back-up point guard, when baylor's back-up point guard was injured, and he looked very impressive handling the ball, running the offense, and creating offense for others. I like the fact that when needed he utilizes basic dribble skills very well. He keeps things very simple, stays very low on his drives, and will utilize a simple spin move, behind back dribble, crossover dribble between the legs, retreat dribble skill, in & out crossover, change of pace dribble, change of direction dribble, hesitation dribble, etc. It's a very underutilized part of his game, because at Baylor they asked him to play more in the paint as a Power Forward or Center, but when he wants to or needs to. He does a great job of combining his great foot speed and quickness with very simple dribbling skills that allow him to create space on the perimeter with ease. His post-up game has the potential to be nasty when you combine his size, length, athleticism, with his footwork when posting up. Because he has the length, size and the athleticism to shoot over anyone in the post, can face-up and utilize his first-step to get by anyone, and is starting to develop a variety of post moves that will make him hard too guard when posting up defenders in the future. He can utilize great touch when finishing plays around the rim and is developing go-to moves with his fade away and baby hook shot. He also has the potential to develop into a very good shooter, because he already uses very good shooting mechanics right know. He shoots a high arching shot, he gets very good jumping elevation on his jump shoot, he shoot's the ball with his elbow in, he uses a high release point when shooting, he shoot's on the way up, and he utilizes a smooth shooting motion and quick release when shooting. As a finisher he has great touch, he has the ability to utilize his size and athleticism to finish shots way above the rim and he utilizes the tear drop lay-up very very well and from any angle

WEAKNESSES

  • He's too unselfish, I question his mental and physical toughness, he does not do enough when his team needs him the most, he struggles playing against physical contact which decreases his ability as a finisher and rebounder. Because he can be pushed out of position easily and struggles to maintain his balance against physical contact. He also at this point of his career does not know how to utilize his great talent and ability in ways that allows him to dominate games on a consistent basis. He also played out of position at Baylor where he was asked to play more like a power forward or center, where the skills that he possesses is geared more to playing more like a versatile small forward who can play power forward at times based on the match-up

FINAL SAY

  • I love his potential and upside and think he will be a great player with patience and development. I personally watched guys like Joe Johnson, T-mac, Jamaal Crawford, Rashard Lewis, and Rudy Gaye struggle early in the careers with consistency. But overtime because they were so talented and blessed with a lot ability. They naturally developed into very good players overtime because of their work ethic and desire to be better players. For some reason, I think the same thing will happen to Perry jones. Because even though he might struggle with consistency early on, once he develops more confidence in his all-around abilities and works on maximizing and utilizing the necessary skills that will allow him to consistently play at a very high level. It's no doubt in my mind that he will develop into a special player in the future because of the great talent and ability that he possesses.


My NBA Comparisons: He has a skill set that is very similar to a young Lamar Odom and young Rashard Lewis with the athleticism of Rudy Gaye and Tyrus Thomas

Great Examples Tape Of Perry Jones Talent & Ability

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quxsxSe1YTo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx_C-XaxK74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XaaY0KXnS8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r56njpzZAyE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljSaPQvrKIY

This tape show his good, but improvable with practice ball handling skills against pressure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPA8OpzaTA


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Coaching helps Anthony Davis,system too.

Does PJ3 play better on Kentucky with those players? I am guessing Yes. Expectations are too high and its just College ball. He will be fine. According to everyone else Jimmer should average 30 but its a different game.

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I'm just really wary of the

I'm just really wary of the fact that his college career was basically sleepwalking through his freshman and sophomore years.

And the fact that he's 6'11 and deathly afraid of contact is also worrisome.

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im always talking the

im always talking the negatives about perry jones, and that might have me come off as a pj3 hater but in reality, as a bb fan, i like pj3 and most of all his potential.

i don't like when people try to bash pierre jackson for pj3's struggles cuss i've seen pj3 not box out/ get out-muscled, turn down open shots to pass it back up and reset the possession. and overall not requesting for the ball. i also think he cant do much on isos and is better suited as a face-up/ hybrid 4

but his length, jumpshot, and flashes of handles keep him in my top 14. as ignorant as this sound, if anthony randolph has been able to put up decent numbers "per 36 mins", i don't see why cant pj3.

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...i had to go, and leave the

...i had to go, and leave the post half way thru.

i was going to say that he can easily move back to my top 10 because a guy like zeller (ahead of him) also has issues, with the weight problem. and pj3's super potential is almost as hard to pass on as dru's potential.

if he would've made a lil progress from rookie to soph season he would be a lock for top 10, but he didn't progress much and a case can be made that he digressed.

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The thing about Jones is that

The thing about Jones is that he may have the elite athletic ability I hear he does, but it's not in game athletic ability. Yes, you can tell he's athletic for a 6'11'' guy, but he doesn't rattle home dunks in traffic, sky above the rim to protect the rim....The best showcase you'll generally see is him beating a college center off the dribble, running the court and catching an wide open alley oop.

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That is absolutely true. I

That is absolutely true. I hear all about Jones III's athleticism, but you really don't see it live on the court.

The fact that he has awful body language and you could tell he had no desire to play the 4/5 at all is also questionable.

Jones III was one of the rare guys I could see by being better off staying until his senior year and going higher in the draft. If he embraced his role as a long 4 with super fundamentals he could've benefitted his draft stock the way Duncan did, which almost never happens.

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PJIII

The problem with Perry Jones III is that he just doesn't look like a good defensive player. He is a poor rebounder who lacks physicality, and I don't think he will be a great post defender. That being said, I think Jones III could esily become at least a solid defender down the line and he has oodles of offensive potential, as well as the some immediate skills. He looks like a good pick and roll player who could also be dangerous in transition. That said, he never seemed to put all the pieces together at Baylor, but that might have something to do with the school he went to.

Jones III is never going to be a lead scorer or an isolation specialist, so I think he is criticized a little too much for not demanding the ball. Baylor could have used more aggressiveness from him, but it isn't a negative that he played within the team concept. Unlike many other prospects, much of what Perry Jones III did in college will translate to the pros, and he was a pretty productive college player.

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I agree with Wolf,I usually

I agree with Wolf,I usually do.The one thing that will drive coaches, GMs and fans crazy is lack of fire. Inconsistent I can take but if no fire then things start crashing down. The thing with PJ3 is that the dude stayed 2 years and we still question the desire that we did his freshmen year. I can give him some slack as a frosh cuz I can say hes trying to fit in. But in his second year and he and everyone else knows he has ubber talent the guy doesnt come to play

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i agree w/ what your saying.

i agree w/ what your saying wolf. he doesn't beat as much people off the dribble as some make it to be... he's not posterizing any1 and he's not raising eye brows with defense (or help defense).

but i think his shot and mechanics are really clean, he can even shoot a lil off the dribble. so that makes him a pick and pop option, that can roll pretty dam good, he can certainly dunk it and has a soft touch on those lay ins. i don't think he is a guy who you can gamble to leave open anywhere inside 20 feet.

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i know his rebounds are

i know his rebounds are mainly a work of his length and athleticism as opposed to his boxouts but he is getting 10 rebs "per 40 mins" which is more than quite a few prospects.

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Is it though. That didn't

Is it though. That didn't sound right so I did the math. Here are the power forward prospects ranked in the 1st round and their rebounds per 40 min. He actually has the 2nd lowest of any SF/PF, PF 1st round prospect.

Power Forwards in nbadraft.net recent mock's 1st round

Anthony Davis - 13 rpg /40 min

Thomas Robinson - 14.97 rpg /40 min

Jared Sullinger - 12.1 rpg / 40 min

Arnett Moultrie - 11.7 rpg / 40 min

Perry Jones - 9.9 rpg / 40 min

John Henson - 13.6 rpg / 40 min

Andrew Nicholson - 11.16 rpg / 40 min

Terrance Jones - 9.8 rpg / 40 min

Tony Mitchell - 14 rpg / 40 min

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i know. 10 rebs isn't a lot

i know. 10 rebs isn't a lot per 40 mins, but i wouldn't say he is a poor rebounder, nor a good one, he's an average rebounder. and you have to take into account he is a hybrid-forward that will be able to play the 3 for stretches, as opposed to some players in the list. terrence jones is getting right around 10 (tho he shares rebs with mkg and davis), and if he was in tony mitchell's position i bet he would be putting at least 12-13 rebs.

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Yeah, that's true. Mitchell

Yeah, that's true. Mitchell are playing in a bad conference and Nicholson is playing in an average one.

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I'd take him for my team with

I'd take him for my team with whatever picks the Pistons get. I'm not high on anyone in our draft range excepting him of course.

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Zeke13, as a Pistons fan

Zeke13, as a Pistons fan aren't you concerned he'll bring much of the same things to the table as Charlie V? With starting Jason Maxiell at the 4, I think an upgrade there who can bring some toughness would be more beneficial.

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He's not a very good

He's not a very good rebounder and his has a low motor and lacks confidence. He has said he doesn't mind being a 3rd option and hated all the pressure of being a first option!!!! I'd draft him but don't expect a whole lot out of him or star status

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Charlie V

Thats harsh... that is a harsh comparisson... haha.. Personally I hate the comparison game because you basically compare a player to a bad player if you think they are bad or compare them to a good player if you think they are good. Its the illusion of an argument without actually making one.

I think the pistons would be the best spot for him to land... I have been saying this for months.. I have no special love or hatred for the pistons.. its just my opinion.

Now that the compasion is out there let me show you why it is wrong. ..

Perry Jones is Bigger than Charlie V. V was 6'9'' w/o shoes w/ a 7' wingspan most sites have Jones listed at 6' 10'' w/o shoes and having a 7'3'' winspan (also that is out of highschool so he could have grown an inch or half of one). People thought V was athletic because of what he did in HS but in College he was not able to have the same success because V is not very athletic. His verticle leap was meaured at 26'' from a stand still. Jones is a very smooth athlete so I can see why some people think his athleticism is overrated, but you cannot doubt that he is a good jumper. I think he was have an over 30'' no step vert and could have as high as a 40'' max vert, probably more like 36-38'' which is still great for his size. So he is bigger and probably more athletic than V. V also did not have the same level of individual success in college that Jones did... even tho we are ripping jones for his lack of success.

Here is where your comparison is scary for jones fans...

Like Jones, V was tabbed as being a player who did not always look focused and invested in the games he was playing in.. I am pretty sure V has proven himself to be that sort of player in the league, disinterested. Like Jones, V was supposed to have a great face up game but all he really does now is take jump shots and warm the pine. From that perspective you have made a very compelling for what the Perry jones who flounders and fails to meet his potential will look like. But remember that Charlie V was compared to Chris Webber when he was in College and that is the kinda talent that you take risks on at the End of the Lottery... Especially when that player fits a need position.

That said I think you suggested at a basketball dilama that kinda cuts both ways for the pistons. Dumars picked V up in Free agency because he had the cap room and he liked some element of his skills. Obv that move did not work out. If you pick up Jones you are prob going to amnesty V which is a good move none-the-less, but may be a stupid move if all you are getting back is V in jones' body. So do you run the risk of wasting your amnesty on a series of moves that could give you a net sum gain of nothing? or one that could get you a better version of the type of player you wanted and thought you were getting a few years back basicaly admitting that you effed up but your method was sound?

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