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Undervalued NBA Players (IN YOUR OPINION)

In your opinions, who are some of the league's most undervalued players. I mean like a guy you always wonder why he gets traded or doesnt seem to get enough credit.

First guy on my list is:

Jason Richardson

what he brings: EXCITEMENT, a highlight reel dunker, athletic wing that can play 2 or 3. Can create his own shot. Deadly 3-point shooter.

his weaknesses: although he usually has good stats in the steals and blocks department, he is a weak perimeter defender. he has settled for more jumpshots as his career has aged so his versatility as a scorer is not a diverse. this can also be attributed to the fact that he is below average ballhandler for a perimeter player.

what hurts his game: I think the knee injuries robbed him of some of his lateral quickness

part of his game that doesnt get enough credit: his passing, I have been impressed with his passing for a guy who is known as a scorer only, particularly in orlando. His assists per 36 min is right around 3 per game.

where his value can be felt the most: I think you already know I am gonna say with the Chicago Bulls. Not as good a defender as Bogans but J-Rich is not a total liability on D. His offensive punch along with D-Rose could be amazing. Not to mention I still think he has some good highlight reels left.


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Jeremy Lin What he

Jeremy Lin

What he brings-Asian people to games, scrappy, tough, hustles on every play

Weakness- Slow, not quick enough, not strong enough, can't quite shake anyone off the dribble, needs to improve his jumpshot, not very athletic.

Part of his game that doesn't get enough credit-His uncanny ability to go after every loose ball, and gice everything he has on everysingle play.

Where his value can be felt most-In the ticket managing department, cause he puts people in seats.

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Ooh! Ooh! I wanna play..

Darko Milicic

What He Brings - Size, Defense, Shot Blocking

Weakness - Slow, doesnt really "get it", lacks the hustle and desire to be good

What Hurts - The fact that he was a bust, he will forever be looked at as the guy that was selected before Bosh, Wade, Melo, etc

Doesnt Get Credit For - Underrated offense game, soft touch, decent post-up game

Where his value gets felt - You mean city? Maybe somewhere like Atlanta, where he could move Horford to the 4, and being a contributer on a winning team should do much good for him...

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Jrue Holiday what he brings:

Jrue Holiday

what he brings: A solid, run-ur-offense type of guard who brings it every night with his defensive intensity and his ability to set up his teammates. Plus he's got great height and good athleticism for the PG position

weaknesses: 2yrs ago it was his shooting, but he is getting better. I think his biggest weakness, is his tendency to not be aggressive and fall asleep during some games. He needs to make his presence felt all the time while he is on the court. He also needs to get his free-throw attempts up

part of game that doesn't get enough credit: He is mainly known for his defense, but i think people underrate his overall game. This guy is 21 and he averaged 14ppg 6.5apg 4rpg and 2spg.

where his value can be felt most: Right now he is making a bad 76ers team make the playoffs, but i think he should be traded to the clippers or the suns. He could dish it to Blake Griffin all day on the alley oops on the clippers and he could excel in the free-lance offense system of the suns, who are in desperate need of a young PG who can play

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I dont't care about the negs,

I dont't care about the negs, but don't hate on Jeremy Lin!

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None of them are

None of them are "undervalued" because they all make a shhhytt ton of money!

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Jeremy Lin doesn't make a ton

Jeremy Lin doesn't make a ton of money comparativly

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Ersan Illyasova

What he brings: Floor spacing, a pick and pop jumper w/ 3 point range; excellent off the ball movement and a commitment to team play; excellent passing within the context of the offense; good ball handling for a 4; solid positional defense, and solid defensive rebounding.

Weaknesses: Lacks consistency on his shot; struggles when only given limited minutes, he is a better starter than bench player, but has been unable to secure a consistent starting job; not a shot blocker or much of a deterrent inside; lacks strength and length to be a good post defender; is not a good post up player; doesn't have the athleticism or strength to be a good finisher at the rim, hurting his efficiency.

part of his game that doesn't get enough credit: His defensive effort. He isn't a great defender, but he hustles, goes after loose balls and is rarely out of position. For a team with a true shot blocking center, as Andrew Bogut has become, he is a very solid defender.

Where his value could be felt the most: If he leaves Milwaukee, than on a team like the Celtics or Spurs that could use a floor spacing big as they transition to a more up tempo style of play. Both have great team defense to make due without a difference making defender at the 4, and the Celtics could use a replacement for Garnett if Garnett leaves.

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Jeremy Lin is young and it's

Jeremy Lin is young and it's cool that he's an Asian guy playing in the NBA from an ivy league school. But I think you're looking at it wrongly aamir. He can fill seats cuz he's asian? Your logic suggests that Omri Casspi must fill seats for all his Israeli fans. And Thabo Sefolosha must be undervalued because he can bring in Swiss fans right? No. Casspi got time (although not this season) because he was versatile 6'10" forward with range. And Thabo may not fill up a box score but plays 30 good minutes of strong defense every night. I like Lin but Lin is at best a 3rd PG right now to have on a team but he may grow into a servicable PG in the future. But I can't consider him undervalued if he doesn't bring anything else other than bring Asian fans into the arena lol

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ahh adam morrison the next

ahh adam morrison the next larry bird enough said

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Arron Afflalo What he brings:

Arron Afflalo

What he brings: Arron has shot the ball extrememly efficiently over his 4 year career (46% FG, 41% 3PT, 80% FT) and there's no reason to expect his shot selection won't continue to improve. He is the perfect teammate. He is smart, he hustles, and he doesn't try to do anything outside his capabilities. The biggest strength to Afflalo's game is without a doubt his defensive abilities. He uses his strong body (6'5'' 215) and solid bball IQ to shut off opposing wings.

Weaknesses: This is not a guy who is going to beat you off the dribble and won't explode in the paint for a monstrous jam. He lacks the explosive athleticism and lateral quickness. His ball-handling is sub-par. His rebounding is no better than decent. He doesn't have a whole lot more to his offensive game than spotting up for a 3.

Part of his game that doesn't get enough credit: His craftiness and professionalis. Arron has a canny ability to be in the right places at the right time. He is always 1 step ahead of the play. He understands angles and where he should be to receive a pass from a driving teammate. He is also a passionate teammate who stands up in the heat of battle during any confrontations his somewhat controversial teammates find themselves involved in.

Where his value could be felt the most: Any contender looking for a wonderful role player. They'll get 12, 4, and 3 out of him with excellent efficiency and a strong body on defense. I'd pay him $5-6 mil a year

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I'd say Andre Miller is

I'd say Andre Miller is undervalued. He's put up great numbers over the course of his entire career, but never makes the highlight real. In today's day and age, the way the youth see the game is that if you aren't on ESPN, you must have no game. WRONG. Andre Miller is going to be a nice asset in Denver backing up Ty Lawson.

Furthermore, I don't see Jason Richardson has being undervalued. On the contrary, he's become a perimeter player who won't play perimeter defense. He gave up on his athleticism way to early in his career.

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Andray Blatche What he

Andray Blatche

What he brings: Versatility. He's a good scorer who can create his own shot. He's also a very good shooter and has one of the best mid-range shots out of any big man in the NBA. He's very good passer. Many moves in his offensive repertoire. I'mma get killed for this, but I think he's the most complete big man in the NBA.

Weaknesses: Sometimes tries to do too much. Kind of turnover prone. Has a tendency to be a ball-stopper and hold the ball too long when he gets it. Sometimes plays lazy. Questionable work ethic. Usually comes to training camp out of shape. Doesn't always box out.

Part of his game that doesn't get enough credit: When in shape, he's an underrated defender who blocks shots.

Where his value could be felt the most: I think the team he's on right now is a great fit. He can fit in any system, and do a little bit of everything. He can create his own shot, or be great in the pick-&-pop with Wall. I laugh when people say he should be traded like he's some scrub. People will be eating crow next season (if we have a season).

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Rodney Stuckey: What he

Rodney Stuckey:

What he brings: Scoring punch for any team... can play the 1 and 2... underrated passer... can slash to the rim, has a pretty good mid range shot... big, strong, psychical guard... gets to the line, good FT shooter... has talent

Weaknesses: Not to much of a PG, tho his last five games of the season he averaged 9.4 APG, which included games of 11, 10 and 14 assists...not always consistent scoring the rock, which includes his shooting to... virtually no 3 pt. shot, shooting numbers can improve aka field goal and 3pt %

Part of his game that doesn't get enough credit: I think his defense... when he wants to play D, it just makes him even a better player

Where his value can be the most felt: He fits into the pistons well I think... but Detroit wont be to successfull with him at the 1...with the right PG since hes not a pure point, he can be a 20 a game scorer easy... on a championship team he would be a third option if he continues to improve or a great sixth man

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Shane Battier

What he brings: Shane is a great leader, a good long range shooter, and a lock down defender. He is a perfect role player with exceptional knowledge for the game. Not to mention he is a great mentor and embassador, who plays the game the "right way". He has a great work ethic and has a hunger to win

Weaknesses: Never a great individual scorer and usually can go left unnoticed on offense in the corner waiting for others to create a shot for him.

Part of his game that doesn't get enough credit: On any given night shane can collect 0 points and still be one of the most impactful players on the court shutting down opposing wings

Where his calue could be felt the most: I think he would be an ideal laker, playing the role of what ron ron does now...Except character issues would never have to be dealt with....

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Luol Deng

What he brings: Very talented offensive and defensive wing...can even play some 4 if needed.....easily one of the best man to man wing defenders in the NBA.....has a very good jumper and can score at the rim

Weaknesses: Could afford to be more aggressive and attack the rim more often....sometimes struggles with consistency

Part of his game that doesn't get enough credit: I think its his defense....people are starting to realize how good he is on defense but he truly is one of the best, he uses his length to his advantage and makes people work to get by him. I believe he is the key to the Bulls defense.

Where his value can be most felt: I think the Bulls are the perfect team for him but as a Clippers fan I would love to see him playing with EJ and Blake. They need a good starting small forward who can play defense and hit jump shots. He may not be the best shooting 3 in the league but he is certainly better than players like Iguodala and Kirilenko.

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See, this is what I hate

See, this is what I hate about this board sometimes. People give me negetives, but not ONE post says why I'm wrong. If you're going to negate someone, at least give a reasonable reason why?

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Lmao @ Jeremy Lin

Lmao @ Jeremy Lin

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Jason Maxiell

Jason Maxiell

What he brings: Incredible overall inside defensive presence and above average rebounder despite only being 6'7. Brings excitement with great defensive plays.

Weaknesses: not very talented offensively. while he posts a 52% fg he also posts only a 55% ft. it seems hard for him to create offense against bigger defenders (which most are).

Part of his Game that doesn't get enough credit: defense. his defense is great which gets the crowd riled up for the pistons.

Where his Value can be felt most:As a defensive bench rotation player when your other option is charlie villanueva and somebody needs to be guarded. i guess his value could also be felt here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDD5GAivH7c

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I don't think that Blatche is under-appreciated at all. He is a bad defender who puts little effort in on that side of the court. His pick and roll defense can be incredibly lazy. Effort and energy are really important to defense; most players can defend well when motivated, but Blatche rarely looks engaged on the defensive end. He gets some steals, but he doesn't block tons of shots. He is a ball stopper on offense who is very inefficient despite his obvious talent. 44.5% from the field isn't good for a big man with excellent touch and good ability to finish at the rim. His shooting percentage on mid range jumpers is very poor, but he still shoots a lot of them. Despite this, he was offered a huge extension by the Wizards 2 seasons ago.

I don't mean to sound hyper-critical, but I think that is why people gave you so many negatives, WizardofOz. I totally agree with you that they should offer a rebuttal, however.

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Thank you B-ball fan. That's

Thank you B-ball fan. That's all I was asking for.

A lot of the things you say are correct. He made a big regression in defense last year. Sometimes, he didn't give any effort. His help D was actually pretty terrible. He has that Bargs-syndrome where he doesn't rotate when he says a guard coming into the lane. I'm not sure if it's just effort, or he's just clueless on D. And sometimes he just refused to box-out. But I think head coach Flip Saunders is a big part of this. He doesn't hold Blatche accountable. When he makes mistakes on offense and defense, Flip doesn't do anything and just keeps letting him play his style. And I think he's a good shot-blocker. In his 3rd season, he had over 100 blocks, while coming off the bench. He just wasn't in shape last year and could barely jump.

His jumpshot also regressed. I remember him being a better mid-range shooter than he was last season. I think his overall bad play took some of his confidence away in his shot. He did start shooting his mid-range shot better towards the end of the year though.

When the Wizards gave him an extension, the GM was just following the owner's philosophy. They felt like he earned it because of his strong play after the trade.

He recently said on a charity trip to Jamaica that “I’m still an up-and-coming player,” said Blatche, who bounced back from a broken foot to average 16.8 points and 8.2 rebounds last season. “I just want to be mean and tough in the paint, work on my jump shot and become more consistent. Work on my body. My goal is to be one of the best players in the league.”

Don't forget that before he broke his foot last offseason, every body said that he was working very hard and would go to the Verizon Center every day to put some shots up. That injury was a really big setback.

But he's an offensively-gifted player that has the tools to be a good defender. And he's one of the most skilled big men in the league. If you don't believe me, just watch this.

This was when he was out of shape too.

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I didn't give you a neg and you shouldn't have gotten them. But I will answer your question why I think he's not worthy of being undervalued.

Let's just examine him based on potential. The man is a gifted big man. 6'11" 260 lbs and pretty quick for his size. He can handle a little bit and is able to play the 3,4, and 5 pretty easily. He has this insane amount of potential that is untapped BUT he has been given a lot of opportunities the last 3 seasons. He has improved but he's still not what he should be.

You already said it yourself... "When he's in shape"... That right there is his biggest problem. The man is in category with guys like Gerald Green, Anthony Randolph, Darius Miles, as far as being to have all this talent and not make the most of that. He will play some games and get 20 and 10 easily and look great doing it with low post moves, mid range jumpers, and athletic plays. But more times than not, he'll get defended will and lose confidence and just settle. You think John Wall likes working his butt off to create an easy shot for him only to see Blatche take a fadeaway jumper? And defensively, let's forget it. In the 07-08 season, he averaged 1.4 blocks per game in 20 minutes. THAT'S impressive. Last season he played 34 minutes and averaged 0.8 blocks. He has that potential but he doesn't use it. And the Wizards traded away Jamison to let him grow.

Another reason why we don't like Andray. His selfishness. He plays for stats. That's why people may think he is good. This video has been posted 1,000 times but seriously, imagine if Blatche tried as hard as he did to get that triple double?

But now that they drafted two defensive minded players with Vesley and Singleton, I would trade away Blatche in a heartbeat for more bench depth. He's a good 3 option and his contract isn't actually all that bad. But he's been given many chances and he's just not lived up to that. Blatche needs a change of scenery and if the Wizards want a new culture, they find a suitor for him IMO

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Everyone's going to kill me

Everyone's going to kill me for this BUT

If Andray Blatche actually tried, he would be a more athletic LaMarcus Aldridge/Pau Gasol.

His passing ability is underrated and he has terrific ball-handling ability for a big man. He has all the ability to put up 20-9-3 stats, he just never played hard enough and most likely never will.

I've always been extremely high on him.

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/19337

and the first comment on this thread as well:

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/wizards-sign-andray-blatche-contract-exten...

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^^ Completely agree.

^^ Completely agree.

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Lou Williams what he brings:

Lou Williams

what he brings: Slashing & scoring ability......can fill it up in a hurry, knock down shooting from the perimeter, ability to get to the rim & flush on anyone.

his weaknesses: Streaky SET shooter....If he is on he will jack, but sometimes it hurts his play because he will not attack the rim.....Does not take over in situations like he should.

what hurts his game: Jrue Holiday!

part of his game that doesnt get enough credit: His ability to attack the rim being on 6'1'' relentless when going to the cup.

where his value can be felt the most: Who knows but I love him in Philly & there is no need to leave them to become a bench/role player elsewhere when he is already comfortable with the chemistry & city......Fan favorite for community service work he does.

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But nice to see people making

But nice to see people making good arguments at least...

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Thank you TOL 23, people are

Thank you TOL 23, people are still underestimating the fellow Asian, but I amy be wrong is right, people might cheer for him wildly at games, but he doesn't put people in seats, my bad.

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andray blatche is the

andray blatche is the modern-day vin baker. all the talent but is fat, lazy, and has no killer instinct

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I like Blatche and have

I like Blatche and have always been a huge fan. Really wanted the Lakers to take he and Monta in the second when after I saw Bynum go at 10(mostly cuz i was a fan of the baby bulls and Kobe). He really had seemed to step up after the jamison trade and everyone in the org was talking about how he'd become a leader, but last years injury hurt a lot. Doesn't help that he and McGhee are both young guys lookin for numbers.

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Blatche and Mcghee hurts Wiz

Blatche as a player is very gifted but he lacks motivation and is very lazy. Blatche playing alongside a player like Mcghee is a horrible because of mcghees bball iq and blatche lack of focus makes for horrid defence. He fits on teams with a big definsive minded center like the Bucks with Bogut or Orlando with Dwight Howard. Blatche situation reminds me of Zach Randolph the past few years he just needs the right team around him and then he can flourish in his role.

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