Throughout the years the all star game is thrught to reward the deserving players for their play/record through the first half of the season , some made it by a hair or just flat out lucky. If you could name some players who didn't deserve to be in a ASG, but somehow managed to get voted in anyway who would they be?
i didn't like joe johnson last year. i think his teammate josh smith deserved it more.
i didn't like roy hibbert in the ASG. but there is a lack of bigs
Yea i agree, Roy Hibbert shouldn't have been there.
But also, i would have to say Zydrunas Illgauskas of the 2003 ASG as well
Ok, what Eastern conference Center would you put in over him?
Greg Monroe-----please don't say anything about teams records because if they were basing this off teams records then Tracy McGrady wouldn't be selected as many times as he did.
Alonzo Mouring in 02
Didnt Jamaal Magloire make it one year? lol
i would have put tyson chandler over hibbert
Chandler was a slightly better defender and much worse offensive center and he played for a much worse team
call it what you want but stats go like this:
tyson: 11 pts on 68fg%
hibbert: 13 pts on 50fg%
he was way more efficient then hibbert.
while being a better defender
I like guys that play hard more than the next guy and I realize how much he means for the Bulls but he did nothing that Josh Smith didn't do. 15ppg and 6rpg doesn't exactly scream all-star. It says he's a very good complimentary piece but it does not show how he should have been an All-Star. Hell, Rajon Rondo only made it because of Joe Johnson when he should have been a shoe-in.
These days it hard to weigh to much on Allstars selection seeing as its popularity based. That being said Joshn Howard suprised me when he played in one .
Mo Williams made one as well
Mo Williams or jameer nelson a couple years ago. Good players, definitely not an allstars. Weird how the west guards were getting snubbed and these guys were making it in the east.
howard was playeing great though wans't he over 20 a game and a great defender at the time
throught the years, there have been numerous times where big men in the east have made it despite not being anything spectacular in my eyes. Heres some that ive seen:
charles oakley in 1994. He averaged just under 12 and 12 that year
tyrone hill in 1995. He averaged 14 and 11 that year
jayson williams in 1998. He averaged 13 and 14 that year
dale davis in 2000. He averaged 10 and 10 that year
antonio davis in 2001. He averaged 14 and 10 that year
brad miller in 2003. He averaged 13 and 8 that year
jamaal magloire in 2004. He averaged 14 and 10 that year
rasheed wallace in 2008. He averaged 13 and 7 on 43% shooting no less
al horford in 2010. He averaged 14 and 10
roy hibbert in 2012. He averaged 13 and 9
You can also throw in names like horace grant, christian leattner, david lee, vin baker in his second pro season before he really establshed himself and garnett in 2011 when he was not having a great year. Im not saying these guys didnt deserve to be there over other candidates, but clearly there has always been a slight lack of superstar bigs in the eastern conference that has allowed solid role players to get invites.
I don't know how many guys on here will remember this but BJ Armstrong was voted the Eastern Conference starter at PG in the All-Star game in 1994.
An absolute travesty, he averaged a career high 14.8 PPG, 3.9 APG, 2.1 RPG and 1 SPG as the Bull PG that season. He wasn't a good defender, he wasn't a good passer, was a poor rebounder, and couldn't really penetrate. The only thing he could do was shoot. And unlike the Jamaal Magloire selection (where there was a pathetic group of centers to choose from), there were plenty of deserving guards in 1994.
Mark Price was the backup on the East team and averaged 17.3 PPG, 7.8 APG, 3 RPG and 1.4 SPG while shooting 47.8% from the field, 39.7% from the 3PT line and 88.8% from the charity stripe.
Reggie Miller was completely snubbed that year. Averaged 19.9 PPG for the Pacers and had a rare 50-40-90 year (50.3 FG%, 42.1 3PT%, 90.8 FT%)
Penny Hardaway averaged 16 PPG, 6.6 APG, 5.4 RPG and 2.3 SPG as a rookie and didn't make the All-Star team either.
Also Steve Smith didn't make the team and he averaged 17.3 PPG, 5.1 APG, 4.5 RPG.
Any of those 4 guys would've been more deserving than Armstrong.
Dana Barros was an all star was talked about in a different thread but he actually had a huge year like 20 and 8 and good shooting %
^^^ yeah bj was an odd one. Just to show how important he was, the bulls left him available for the expansion draft that very next summer. He didnt belong there in all star game
while being a better defender
dana barros deserved his bid, no question.
becasue the league did it to appease LeBron, and that should never happen.
no doubt Barros did the guy who said Howard made me think of Barros though because Howard no doubt deserved it he was 20 7 and great defense for a few years then had injuries
Damn you @Dwight, you beat me to it. BJ was the very first name that came to mind.
Mark Eaton was my other name. Didnt see anyone else mention him. ASG 89' at 32 years of age.
6.2pts,10.3ebs, 4blks on 46%fg. Eye popping bpg numbers, but nothing else says all-star. Not to mention he was very lumbering 7ft4, 275 lbs.
Guys like Mo Williams were generally the second leading scorer on a team with a gd record thats how they sneak in. I was thinking this might have applied to Bj but I imagine Scottie was the well established 2nd fiddle. Probably helped Jayson Williams too as Im suer that had a strong record
The center sitation is actually a disgrace. The requirements are soo minimal at the moment due to the weakness at that position
and I could be mistaken but I think Antonio Davis was a replacement pick
Jameer Nelson 2009
Jamaal Magloire 2004
Mehmet Okur 2007
Damnit Steviechillz, I was about to say Okur!
I think they want to prove, not only to the rest of the league, but to our team that they can play and they want to fit in. There are a lot of veteran guys, we have a good mix of young guys who are hungry and want to get better, but we also have some veteran guys that also want to win.”
I remember Karl Malone being upset when AC Green was voted a starter over him in 1990....I guess its similar to when BJ Armstrong was named a starter,playing in Chicago & LA on marquee teams and in big media markets played into it......
I didnt feel James Donaldson deserved to be named an all star in 1988..He averaged only 7 pts that season...
Sometimes coaches will give a spot to former all stars, just because of what they did in the past..
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