UCLA vs VILLANOVA ..lets get ready to rummmmmbbbbbllllllleee
I didn't plan on really watching this game to much until i remembered Stanford will be facing UCLA and the arguments about which team will win and who is better. I haven't gotten a chance to watch either team other than highlights so i dont know who will win but i do hope UCLA wins so when Stanford beats them it will look better on our resume:)
lets go bruins. Hopefully malcolm lee plays. Bruins will have to slow the pace and dominate the paint to win this.
This will be a very close game. I look for Villanova to win in the closing seconds, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if UCLA pulled it out.
looks like i wont be really watching this game since its just about to start and the kentucky vs uconn game is about to start after the heat game
Villanova is getting loose early. Their guards are killing UCLA's off the dribble early.
UCLA plays 0 defense.
its days like this i wish i wasnt a sports fan. Zero defense. Gaurds are getting beat off the dribble and there is no one in the way after that. Villanova finshed the half on like a 15-2 run
Good thing you took back the "UCLA wins or I'll never come back" statement haha.
yeah, i took that back like 5 seconds after i clicked save. Looks like my mouth wrote checks my bruins couldnt cash.
and im sure people who havent seen honeycutt before are thinking why on earth is this guy predicted to go 10th?
I like Honeycutt but I do think 10th is a little high. He reminds me more of a Jared Dudley type player at the next level.
Also, Josh Smith is a big dude, I do like that he's a legit 6-10.
Honeycutt looks like a prospect, but top 10? HELL naw. He looks like a 2012 guy ideally. He doesn't play strong or tough.
he has looked bad on offense but i dont see anything wrong with his toughness or strength. He has grabbed rebounds in traffic and blocked like 3 shots and affected a few others. His shooting, ball handling and passing are off tonight but what dont you like about his strength or toughness?
i guess that kid was right about villanova guards were gonna own the overrated ucla guards
He wouldn't be very strong in NBA. I could see him struggling to defend stronger players, finish around the rim through contact, etc etc. He also doesn't play very tough on either end really. His shooting touch seems nice and he shows decent floor vision, but he'd have to show an elite skill for him to be considered a top 10 pick. He has no elite skill right now. At all.
No offense, even the comparison for him on the site ( Josh Childress) makes me believe that even Aran and the people who scouted him think he won't be elite.
disagree about no elite skills. Name me a wing player in college who can get 3-4 blocks any night and protect tha basket like he does. And while hes not showing his passing off too well tonight, trust me, its elite.
So he's an elite shot-blocker? And I've seen him play before tonight. His passing is good, but elite? I don't see him getting more than like 2 or 3 apg AT MOST in the NBA in a season. Elite passing on the wing is like 4 or 5 apg and up.
hes blocked 3 shots tonight that i can rmeember and impacted about 3 more that i can remeber. I've seen him get 5 blocks in a game and he is the one guy on the bruins who is actually protecting the paint tonight. I would say for a guy who plays sf mostly around the three point line, thats pretty elite.
the bruins do not look like the top 25 team i was talking about. But i dont think the wildcats look all that great either.
I'm gonna watch more UCLA games but he just sounds like another Corey Brewer/ Jared Dudley ( less scoring) type.
Overall, I feel he's not a lotto player. He's a good upside pick right now, but I dunno on the overall talent.
but he only averages .8blks a game so this isnt a everyday thing for him
hes played 3 games.
Honeycutt really has a ways to go if you are making a case that his shot-blocking is his standout skill. I wonder how that will work for him in the NBA....
he averaged 1blk a game last year
i didnt say that was gonna be his calling card. You said he had no elite skills and i pointed one out. Obviously no one is gonna be drafted as a sf on shot blocking.
i havent watched him enough to know if hes a elite defender but hes not a elite shot blocker. even after three games a elite shot blocker shows you they are elite. like a rebounder,scorer,passer
"but he only averages .8blks a game so this isnt a everyday thing for him"
And all of his blocks tonight have come from Wayns and Fisher, 2 guards around 6', overdribbling and him getting blocks just by being at the rim. Nothing about his shot-blocking will really translate to the NBA. And definitely not at an elite level.
I just asked Ryan Feldman on Twitter and he said: Good talent, potential 1st rounder, but still has a lot to prove
So time will tell.
his stats last year were highly skewed. He missed the first month and then didnt start for a few more weeks after he came back. He didnt even score more then 4 points until half the season was over last year. Just watching him play, you can see he blocks shots.
"You said he had no elite skills and i pointed one out."
Yeah, that elite 0.8 bpg he has to his name. And the 1 bpg he had last year. Really screams Dikembe Mutumbo out there.
if were just talking last years stats, then honeycutt doesnt do anything worth being mentioned as a first rounder. This site has him going top 10 and the lastr espn tracker i saw had him going 19th.
the guys hasn't proven in a year and some change that hes a elite shot blocker so theres no argument in that. one game doesn't make him a elite shot blocker. Theres zero proof that says he's a elite shot blocker
have you been reading anything i've wrote? And why are you comparing him to a center, obviously im gonna compare his shotbloocking and passing to a sf where he will play. Remember you also said landry fields didnt do one single thing at an nba level.
I don't really remember talking about Landry Fields. I watched him play part of one game in my life before the Summer League. Not that this really has anything to do with this anyway.
I wasn't really comparing him to Mutumbo seriously. Just stressing that he has no elite shot-blocking skills.
if you only watched fields part of one game your entire life before summer league, then why did you say he did nothign at an nba level the night of the draft?
I don't remember saying that, but if I did, I probably said something like "I watched him play against Kentucky and he didn't show a trueNBA caliber skill."
if he averaged 2 blks a game he wouldn't be considered a elite shot blocker. it doesn't matter what position someone plays if you say they are elite at something. if the average pg averaged 12ppg and some other pg averaged 20 that wouldn't make him a elite scorer. lebron james averages way above average for a small forward but hes not a elite assist man. When talking about elite you include all positions unless you are saying this guy is elite compared to the players at his position
"New York are expecting too much out of a 2nd round pick. Even though is an all-around talent, Fields isn't NBA level at anything really, so there is a good chance him not making the team"
you talking about this llperez?
Honeycutt isn't even an elite shot-blocker for a SF though lol.
yeah. I just bumped that thread a week ago when fields had his 21-17 game and i went back and read the coments. Im not goona harp on those comments and make a deal out of them, but when you question how a guy translates to the nba that admit you barely watched, it makes me question this knoweldge you have about honeycutt based on tonight when ive never heard you talk about him before.
honeycutt blocked 2 or more shots in 10 games last year. ANd when i talk about his skills of course im gonna relate them to his position. Scoring is a bad comparison becasue in basketball every position has the ability to be a 20 point scoreer. How many sf's are gonna block 2 shots a game?
He scored nearly twice as much as Stephenson did, but what about his scoring translates? He was the best player on a very suspect Stanford team, and you have to know he won't see the ball at nearly the rate he did for Stanford. I'd be shocked if Hill puts up better scoring numbers than Stephenson does, even as a rookie. I watched him play against Kentucky and 1 other game against Washington and I think he's solid, but nothing about him makes me think he can be a true rotation player
Many people missed the boat on this guy (except me and llperez) thats why i always say if you havent watched a lot of games of a guy then most likely you cant make a good judgement on the guy
he finished with 4 blocks tonight
that still wouldnt make him a elite shot blocker. elite means all players not just a certain position. that would just make him a good shot blocker. elite is when you are up there with other elite shot blockers reguardless of position
Stanford, are you saying you was hyping up Landry Fields pre draft?
I talked briefly about Honeycutt when I talked about UCLA in nmy countdown to the season. I didn't watch Stanford play, but UCLA was on TV enough in the East for me to have seen him play more than once. More than twice actually. Stanford just never came on TV. I actually watched the Kentucky v. Stanford game on my computer. They never got national coverage.
I don't think ANYONE expected Landry Fields to get the time or production he's getting early on. I also don't think anyone expected Lance Stephenson would screw up as bad as he did, and therefore he's had no chance to prove how good he actually is.
all i got to say, is i rather argue with you guys then watch that sorry a.ss game. And congrats to the villanova fan i talked smack to. It was the first real team ucla played this year, so hopefully it was a learning lessong for the young guys.
mr knicks im starting to thing youre the only one who doesnt read post. everyone knows i was high on fields after the kentucky game. how come you seem to be the last one to catch on with these things
and ill admit, discussing blocks for a sf is stupid. I dont care if he is elite or not, the fact that we have to discuss blcoking ability is just not a good sign. He needs to pick it up or else he will be a 2012 prospect. He is better then he showed tonight.